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Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:11 AM

 

This is the kind of Dem we need to win in red areas! Super populist FIGHTER for working people!

CHECK IT OUT:

The guy is incredible. Super fighter for working people!

In my area of central/northern Maine, we have a marine vet, Jared Golden, fighting similarly to take down the corporate toady Bruce Poliquin in the US House race up here.

Democrats forgot to be very strong populist vocal champions for working class people. That is ONE of the reasons Trump won. (There were many contributing factors.) When people feel hopeless and forgotten they will turn to ANYONE who gives them economic hope.

Dems can't win just by talking about Medicaid and raising the minimum wage. Doesn't go nearly far enough. People want the middle class American Dream. They need to be very vocal champions for the working class in the trenches.

We have to be very strong crystal clear FIGHTERS who can relate to and connect to everyday Americans trying to put food on the table.

We also need people who fit the districts in which they are running. People like this guy, Connor Lamb in PA, and Jared Golden in ME.

Check it out.

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Reply This is the kind of Dem we need to win in red areas! Super populist FIGHTER for working people! (Original post)
LBM20 Oct 2018 OP
Tanuki Oct 2018 #1
LBM20 Oct 2018 #2
democrank Oct 2018 #3
Cha Oct 2018 #5
BlueMTexpat Oct 2018 #7
LovingA2andMI Oct 2018 #10
shanny Oct 2018 #13
JI7 Oct 2018 #4
JHan Oct 2018 #32
James48 Oct 2018 #6
Old Vet Oct 2018 #20
Hortensis Oct 2018 #8
JCanete Oct 2018 #19
Hortensis Oct 2018 #23
LBM20 Oct 2018 #25
Hortensis Oct 2018 #26
IronLionZion Oct 2018 #9
peekaloo Oct 2018 #11
Gothmog Oct 2018 #34
disillusioned73 Oct 2018 #12
mtnsnake Oct 2018 #14
liberalla Oct 2018 #15
Autumn Oct 2018 #16
brooklynite Oct 2018 #17
mtnsnake Oct 2018 #22
FakeNoose Oct 2018 #18
Luciferous Oct 2018 #21
DFW Oct 2018 #24
JHan Oct 2018 #30
DFW Oct 2018 #33
Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2018 #27
BeckyDem Oct 2018 #28
NewJeffCT Oct 2018 #29
WeekiWater Oct 2018 #31

Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:41 AM

1. Ojeda's district (WV-3) is critical for flipping Congress from red to blue! It is an open seat,

as GOP incumbent Evan Jenkins chose not to run and instead unsuccessfully sought his party's nomination to run for the Senate against Joe Manchin. Ojeda currently holds a small lead, but your contribution can help seal the deal. A win for Ojeda helps secure a sane Congress headed by Democrats and is a win for all of us, regardless of where we live. I grew up in this district and was there last weekend for the memorial service for one of my relatives. It did my heart good to see the Ojeda signs around my town! He has received endorsements this year from the United Mine Workers, National Education Association, Communication Workers of America, SEIU District 1199, American Federation of Government Employees, and the West Virginia AFL-CIO. If you can afford it, please help send Ojeda to Congress!

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/oje20180921-google?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7ZvwnIn-3QIVBb7ACh0toQSdEAAYASAAEgIMRPD_BwE

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 05:53 AM

2. I have rarely seen such passion in a candidate. In WV coal miners have suffered. In my state of

 

Maine the out of work paper mill workers have suffered, and in so much of my area they switched to Trump. Trump won up here. The Dems forgot how to be strong fighters for working people and how to CONNECT to them.

I hope the teachers, miners, and union people are working like hell for Ojeda.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:33 AM

3. Hope the pro-Joe Manchin Democrats see this post.

Progressive fighters are what we need.

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Response to democrank (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:55 AM

5. This is what Manchin is about..

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:17 AM

7. True, even though it makes me

gnash my teeth and pull out my thinning hair.

It we do manage to get a Dem majority in the Senate in November - as I hope and pray that we will - we MUST do something in WV and "red" areas like it that will actually educate voters so that they understand how much they have voted AGAINST their own best interests and that things will only change for the better when they don't allow Fox News and their RW evangelical churches to do their thinking for them.

That takes consistent grassroots efforts and rebuilding state and local Dem networks - something that Howard Dean understood and began when he was DNC Chair, but that has been neglected again until recently. Grassroots efforts must continue all year, every year, even when there is NOT an important seat at issue.

And there MUST be something done about political activities of, by and in churches. This is where a LOT of RW organization goes on, literally from the cradle to the grave.

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Response to democrank (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 08:47 AM

10. They Will Likely Ignore It....

To Claim Brett Kavanaugh Affirming Voting, EpiPen Justifying Daughter Price Hiking, Neil Gorsuch Voting Loving --- Joe Manchin is the Best We Can Do in West Virginia....like "ever"....

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Response to democrank (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:40 PM

13. Amen!

 

This is what we need.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 06:44 AM

4. why do you dismiss working class people of color ? and no, Trump supporters voted for him because

they agreed with his bigotry. if they didn't agree with it they are welcome to speak against him but they aren't because he still has huge approvals among them.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:30 AM

32. Can count on one hand..

the number of articles I've seen which looked at how working-class PoC fared under Obama and now Trump.

And no, Trump supporters won't speak out against the bigotry,,ever. Tells me all I need to know.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:06 AM

6. Great ad.

He is a guy I would go into combat with.

I wish him the best of luck!

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Response to James48 (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:09 PM

20. Iam with you all day james.......

A bright part of my day is reading about all the veterans running for office.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:19 AM

8. Populism means danger. It does not mean "the people."

It is a force of mindless anger, by definition directed against an amorphous "the establishment," though secondary victims are often targeted, such as immigrants for trumpsters. Populist leaders are threatening to destroy democracies around the planet. Hitler was one, and populilsm is raising its ugly, destructive head across Europe once again.

Populist fears and resentments can be harnessed by charismatic, usually authoritarian-sounding ("strong" ) leaders of virtually any ideology, and leaders using them to gain power can often turn out to be very bad. Not only do they not need to tell anything resembling the truth when feeding this negative force with populist rants, but truth, rationality, intellect, morality and temperance are virtually always obstructions the mob is turned on to destroy. (Trump.)

Btw, since this is a liberal forum, it's important to realize a large portion of any populist group will be people who combine a desire for public programs for themselves and theirs and social conservatism. Yup: social conservatives, the world's big troublemakers for other people. When you think about it, of course those aggressive hostiles will be drawn to populist movements, left or right depending on what's most important to them. Trump's leading a right-wing populist movement, and Sanders was leading a combination left-wing movement that included a strong populist element, hoping to draw more voters away from Trump.

So, maybe this guy's not really a "super populist"? If true, that would not be a good thing.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:00 PM

19. I think that drastically depends on the populism involved, and how that anger is channeled towards

 

what kind of positivity. A populism that is fundamentally about people from the middle class on down needing to come together, rather than ginning up violence and hatred is a positive way to use people's dissatisfaction and righteous frustration. Getting people to come out for the primaries and to themselves run in them as agents of change is a good way to use that frustration, and isn't about centering a charismatic demagogue of a leader.

Of course on the flip-side it can be ugly, and more often than not is.





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Response to JCanete (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 04:22 AM

23. What you're describing is NOT populism, though.

It's plain old democracy, not a dangerously negative manifestation.

Populism is a real thing with real meaning. The word's frequently misused, often ignorantly but even more often NOT innocently. If you intended to inflame and control populist anger against the wealthy "establishment" for the express purpose of using it to defeat the Democrats who were threatening to tax great wealth out of existence, would you want people to know what populism was? The Koch alliance certainly didn't when they hired agents to create the Tea Party movement by harnessing and redirecting resentment against the kind of wealthy people who'd taken over the Republican Party.

And yes, good people can lead those in the thrall of populist angers in the right direction, but they seldom are able to because competing leaders who fan the flames of resentment are far more appealing to those who are drawn to negative populist messages. We're talking about the mobs who flock to burn barns, not the peaceable people who come together to build new barns. Very different phenomena.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 05:22 AM

25. WRONG! You are conflating right wing "populism" with REAL populism which means government that

 

works for THE PEOPLE and not the rich and powerful. This man is fighting for the interests of the poor and working class.

Good for him!!

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Response to LBM20 (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 05:29 AM

26. No. Populism is threatening many nations around

the planet right now. It's a real thing, not just a slogan that can be taken any way a person wants. Or any way leaders instruct.

Hitler's was a populist movement that drew supporters from both the left and the right. Once he got power, he took his movement completely hard right and had a socialist coleader executed, along with any others who objected. And it was too late for those who'd made the horrible mistake of empowering him to do anything about it.

These are dangerous days, and it's especially important now to understand that our ability to direct political power through our votes is being targeted by people whose goals may not always be what they claim. Also, one of my problems with Sanders is that I believe he's weak and that any populist movement he put together might end up falling into bad hands and used to consolidate right wing authoritarian power by defeating Democrats. Hardly an unforeseeable situation.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 07:34 AM

9. I hope our party is providing him the support he needs

and not just writing him off for being in a red state or whatever.

This is the type of candidate and message we need

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:04 AM

11. Lots of screen time in 'Fahrenheit 11/9'

"I'll fight you in the street".

Thank you Michael Moore for introducing him to those outside of WV.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:09 AM

12. A candidiate in WV I can support..

 

WOW..

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:50 PM

14. Wow, how encouraging, inspirational, and hopeful! I agree we need more Dem fighters like him.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:50 PM

15. Wow, that is one impressive man and ad! I hope he's victorious.

WV would be well served by this man!


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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:51 PM

16. Sounds impressive from that clip. Well have to look more into him.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:52 PM

17. You know he voted for Trump in 2016?

(I've talked to him)

Doesn't bother me, but some folks here insist that ANY Trip voter must be attacked as a racist, sexist bible-thumper.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:18 PM

22. He did, but check out this video of him pasting Trump later on, after Trump was in office

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:57 PM

18. I like this guy and I hope he wins!

Best of luck to West Virginia Democrats!



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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Thu Oct 11, 2018, 10:11 PM

21. I read an article about him a while back, seems like a good guy.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 05:05 AM

24. Ojeda sounds like a perfect candidate for his district

Kyle Kulinski I could do without. He sounds like he took elocution lessons from Cenk Uygur. His intonation is identical (just a little angrier, like a Fox Noise commentator). Kulinski voted for Jill Stein in 2016, by his own proud admission, and openly despises Hillary. Not the sort of commentator whose endorsement I'd actively be seeking, although I wouldn't turn it down, either.

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Response to DFW (Reply #24)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:22 AM

30. And he spouted the usual boilerplate memes,

Listening to him is like descending into a well of stupid so I avoid him best I can.

Ojeda, on the other hand, is an interesting candidate, I'll be following him closely.

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Response to JHan (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:32 AM

33. Yes, following a tired script is boring, no matter from whom it comes

And no mater from what end of the spectrum, even if it's ours.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:06 AM

27. I keep bringing up Jared Golden.

I submitted my absentee ballot last night and voted for him (also Janet Mills for gov). Jared currently represents my district of Lewiston in the Maine House. I've met him on a few occasions. He seems like a great guy.

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:10 AM

28. Fantastic!

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:14 AM

29. wow - that is a powerful ad

I had not heard that he had been attacked only 2 years ago

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Response to LBM20 (Original post)

Fri Oct 12, 2018, 09:24 AM

31. "Democrats forgot to be very strong populist vocal champions for working class people."

 

Historically, that is not even close to the reflection of populism. I trust very few people who label themselves as populists. It can be a great word for campaigning. It's pretty void of any meaning.

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