Yes, he was alive when they began cutting him up..... confirmed GUARDIAN

[jodymarie aimee]

From the GUARDIAN

The Wall Street Journal, citing Turkish official who had heard the recording, said Khashoggi was allegedly killed and dismembered in the office of the Saudi consul general, Mohammad al-Otaibi, who was in the room at the time. A voice on the recording can be heard inviting him to leave, the report said.

Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, a Saudi military forensics official,is reportedly heard putting on headphones to listen to music as he begins to dismember the body, and encourages other people in the room to do the same.

According to Middle East Eye, Khashoggi was dragged from the office to Otaibi’s study next door, where Tubaigy began cutting up his body on a table while he was still alive.

Pompeo met Erdoğan and the Turkish foreign minister, Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu, within the confines of Ankara’s Esenboga airport on Wednesday morning, a day after Erdoğan had said police had found freshly painted walls and “toxic” substances during a search of the consulate, where Khashoggi was last seen alive two weeks ago.

Turkish media said on Wednesday that Pompeo was expected to bring answers with him from Riyadh, his previous stop, where he met with King Salman, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and the foreign minister, Adel al-Jubeir. Pompeo described the visit as “highly successful” and said the Saudis had promised to carry out a “thorough, complete and transparent investigation”.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/17/jamal-khashoggi-pompeo-to-meet-erdogan-as-gory-reports-of-killing-emerge?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+USA+-+Collections+2017&utm_term=287965&subid=17536001&CMP=GT_US_collection

[dalton99a]

1. Fucking savages

[brush]

34. Yes. Sick and bloodthirsty bastards who apparently enjoy torture.

As horrible as it sounds killing him first before dismembering his body would've been more humane, if one can even use such a word involving this extreme cruelty.

[Pachamama]

52. What can one expect from Barbaric Savages that enjoy beheadings in Soccer Stadiums

Sickening....



The United States should not be in Bed with such Savages ever....

[2naSalit]

2. Transparent as the fresh paint on the embassy walls...nt

[MoonRiver]

37. Time for Turkey to bring a luminal crew to the embassy.

[MFM008]

55. The place would light up

Like a tanning bed.

[MoonRiver]

58. Believe I heard they have been in there today doing the luminal thing.

And yeah, it was probably so bright they had to put on goggles!

[lsewpershad]

53. Transparent

as the thorough Saudi investigation will be.

[Iliyah]

3. No one should ever be subject to such torture. . . .

No one.

[CatMor]

4. The victims of 9/11 were alive when ...

the hi-jackers crashed the planes. 15 of the hi-jackers were Saudi's as was Osama bin Laden. I can't understand why Saudi Arabia is now such a friend of the US, according to trump.

[pangaia]

13. Oh, come on. Of course you understand it. :))))

[CatMor]

18. Yes, $$$$$ ...

the only thing that matters to monster trump.

[SCantiGOP]

49. Yes, it's money and oil, but

It’s also Iran. We can’t effectively screw over Iran and prepare for military action against them without the full support of the Saudis.
This current action may be more Bolton’s influence than any monetary considerations.

[fescuerescue]

23. We've had 18 years of Presidents who treat Saudi like a friend.

W treated'm like a friend for 8
O did for 8 as well.

Now T has been doing it for the last 2 years.

I bet the next President will too.

This murder is a horrible thing. But 9/11 was about 3,000 times worse.

Honestly - I don't get it. There must be some deep dark secrets at the highest levels that none of us are privy to. I just don't get why Saudi Arabia is so off limits to anyone once they step into the Oval Office.

[pangaia]

27. Oh, come on now.. :))

OIL
$$$$
blackmail
gangsters stick together....


you name it...
we are just pawns in the great world game

[yardwork]

57. Much longer than that.

I know for a fact that Saudi Arabia has been a close ally of the U.S. for many, many decades.

Oil money and leverage in the Middle East.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. That's like saying Kentuckian's executed the Oklahoma City Bombing.

Because they are American too.

[CatMor]

46. Sorry but your logic is lost on me.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. Your logic: Bin Laden & gang were Saudi therefore Saudi Arabia bad & Saudi Arabians bad

It's like saying tRump is smashing US institutions and he's a New Yorker so don't have anything to do with New York or New Yorkers.

[magicarpet]

5. Did they put layer upon layers of blue tarps down like the Mafia...

.... so the blood of the deceased did not soak in to the expensive carpets ?

[Lochloosa]

21. Rookie. Blue Tarps leak. Visqueen

Visqueen


Visqueen is a brand of polyethylene plastic sheeting (typically Low-density polyethylene) produced by British Polythene Industries Limited. It is the registered trade mark of British Polythene Limited in numerous countries throughout the world. It is commonly between 4 and 10 mils (0.004 to 0.01 in./0.1 to 0.25 mm) thick and is available in clear, opaque, blue and black.[1][citation needed]

Visqueen is used for many purposes. It is commonly used as a temporary tarpaulin, as a drop cloth when painting, to cover concrete as it sets, to line decorative ponds, and to cover the ground before applying stone or wood chips to prevent weed growth. Large (100 x 20 ft) sheets of Visqueen are used during floods to protect levees from wave wash erosion.[2](p16) It is often suggested[by whom?] for use in greenhouses. Visqueen is used as a condensation barrier inside walls when installing HVAC systems. It is also used as a ground cover in the crawl space of home foundations as a vapor barrier.[3] The use of Visqueen underneath a basement is to prevent water infiltration from water present in the ground that would pass through the concrete or dirt floor and bring in unwanted dampness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visqueen

[dewsgirl]

40. This sounds like the type used by Dexter.

[Coventina]

6. Don't forget, this was aided and abetted by Kushner.

[leftynyc]

8. How so?

Did they use Jarad to lure him to the consulate?

[Coventina]

11. link

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-deeply-involved-in-white-house-response-to-khashoggis-disappearance_us_5bc648bee4b0a8f17ee6d110

[leftynyc]

12. So he's involved with the RESPONSE

not to the murder. Got it.

[Coventina]

16. And, he's been feeding the Saudis classified info on dissenters.

So, in a larger sense he's also involved in the Saudis' campaign of torture and murder of dissidents, including Khashoggi.

[JonLP24]

19. The Saudis bragged they have Jared in their pocket

I'm sure he had a lot of help with the coup and US approval for all things they do.

[leftynyc]

22. I have no doubt

the administration planned to turn a blind eye to the brutal killing but the poster was implying Jarad was behind the killing and that's simply not true. I don't know why the saudi's didn't bail him out on the 666 building but they didn't. Qatar did.

[JonLP24]

24. I guess they don't get along as well anymore

They are both Wahabbi states with Qatar a larger percentage of their population being wahabbi.

In other words not much difference and I'm sure the two countries still maintain political connections.

[leftynyc]

26. They've cut ties

Not really sure what that entails:

On June 5, 2017, Saudi Arabia had officially cut ties with Qatar.[23] Saudi Arabia said it took the decision to cut diplomatic ties due to Qatar’s “embrace of various terrorist and sectarian groups aimed at destabilising the region”, including the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, and groups supported by Iran in the kingdom’s Eastern Province city of Qatif.[4] Islam Hassan argues that: "Starting the 2000 and ahead, Qatar has been pursuing an independent foreign policy that at times clash with the Saudi strategic interests in the region. The fact that Qatar has not been toeing the Saudi foreign policy, and dealing with states and non-state actors that the Saudis do not approve of have caused this tension in relations over the past couple of years, mainly after the Arab uprisings. This tension was revived by the hacking saga of Qatar News Agency and the statement that was attributed to Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad, which Qatar falsified later. This happened at a time Mohamed bin Salman is facing competition from Mohamed bin Nayef over the Saudi throne. Mohamed bin Salman tried to have the US blessing during Trump's visit to Saudi to force Qatar to its knees, and go back home with a win that would give him more popularity in Saudi Arabia, easing his journey to power."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_relations


Pretty ironic reason since Saudi's finance every sunni terrorist organization in the region.

[Coventina]

25. Aiding and abetting is criminal after the crime as well as before.

And, if you don't think that the Saudis were emboldened to attack a US resident and employee of a US flagship newspaper by having Kushner's participation in their overall campaign of torturing and killing critics, then you are dreaming.

[leftynyc]

28. I think donnie has FAR more

reason to protect the saudi's than jarad does. He gave them nothing without donnie's approval.

[Coventina]

29. No disagreement there!

Kushner is just one link in the Trump Family Crime Business.

[leftynyc]

35. That entire family

(with the exceptions of tiffany and barron) belong in prison.

[brush]

30. He was bailed out of the 1.1B debt due on 666 5th Ave.

That admin is for sale and open for bribery.

[leftynyc]

36. That was by a company

largely financed by Qatar, not the saudi's.

[brush]

38. So that means the admin is not for sale and open for bribery?

Come on, we are not naive here. And to think that there is no inter-connectedness between the Saudis and the Qataris is... well, do I even have to say it?

[leftynyc]

41. Not what I said AT ALL

And the Saudis and Qataris have broken their relations as of 2017.

On June 5, 2017, Saudi Arabia had officially cut ties with Qatar.[23] Saudi Arabia said it took the decision to cut diplomatic ties due to Qatar’s “embrace of various terrorist and sectarian groups aimed at destabilising the region”, including the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida, Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, and groups supported by Iran in the kingdom’s Eastern Province city of Qatif.[4] Islam Hassan argues that: "Starting the 2000 and ahead, Qatar has been pursuing an independent foreign policy that at times clash with the Saudi strategic interests in the region. The fact that Qatar has not been toeing the Saudi foreign policy, and dealing with states and non-state actors that the Saudis do not approve of have caused this tension in relations over the past couple of years, mainly after the Arab uprisings. This tension was revived by the hacking saga of Qatar News Agency and the statement that was attributed to Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad, which Qatar falsified later. This happened at a time Mohamed bin Salman is facing competition from Mohamed bin Nayef over the Saudi throne. Mohamed bin Salman tried to have the US blessing during Trump's visit to Saudi to force Qatar to its knees, and go back home with a win that would give him more popularity in Saudi Arabia, easing his journey to power."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_relations


Pretty laughable since the saudis finance every sunni terrorist organization in the world.

[brush]

43. Diplomacy disputes are one thing, the Sunni link is another.

[brush]

59. Something else to think about. Remember the Saudi royal who was put under house arrest...

in a hotel in Riyahd when the crown prince muscled his way to the top? I heard today on Sirius XM radio that to get out he had to cough exactly the amount that Kushner needed to pay the debt owed on 666 5th Ave.

They're all crooks and I wouldn't want to be Kushner right about now because the facts on the journalist's murder is going to come out, and for that matter, wouldn't want to be trump either.

[bluestarone]

7. Just curious here how many of these assholes were also

Part of the 9-11 attackers in NY?

[GeorgeGist]

14. None ...

all the attackers died on 9-11.

[bluestarone]

15. Well i remember a story that BUSH helped some Saudies

Leave our country and return to Saudi Arabia?

[brush]

32. Those were the diplomats and royal connected Saudis ushered home...

to avoid difficulties for them here. Wouldn't want them to be confronted by angry Americans don't you know.

[JonLP24]

20. They were wired checks from a bank account out of UAE

They didn't do it alone had some help from the Saudi embassy.

[Progressive Jones]

9. The Saudis should have been turned to vapor after September 11, 2001. nt

[Raven]

10. and our SOS is smiling and glad handing these butchers? n/t

[peekaloo]

17. this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211288854

[smirkymonkey]

31. Evil bastards!

All of them! Every single one.

[zonkers]

33. Bone chilling

[Initech]

39. This was a fucking act of war.

And Trump is treating like they're making it a bad deal. Because you know it's all about the deal.

[Blue_Tires]

42. Greenwald and Scahill were unavailable for comment

God, if this happened during the Obama era they would have been screeching for impeachment.

[B Stieg]

50. Good get!

First time I left DU was over the Greenwald war.
Glad to see he seems to be placed in a proper perspective these days.
Thanks!

REGISTER and VOTE!

[marieo1]

45. Sadistic Administration

This whole administration should be charged with treason now!!! They are just as sadistic as the Saudi's. Not one of them is going to do a thing about this atrocity. I can't believe this is happening in our good old USA!!! How Pompeau can even set foot on their soil and be cordial to them is beyond me.

[keithbvadu2]

47. You're sure this is the place?

[Cryptoad]

48. I lived in the Kingdom back in 80's

I have no surprise as to the Trumpster loving these folks. they just make him drool with envoy!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

51. So did my uncle. The stories he would tell....

They have the same taste in toilets.

[struggle4progress]

56. Quick introductionary to Saudi terminology

Doctor, noun. Man with bone saw

Interrogate, verb. To vivisect

Investigate, verb. To bleach and repaint an interrogation site

Music, noun. Sound made by bone saw during interrogation