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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:14 AM Oct 2018

TL;DR: guy takes his girlfriend to see Jordan Peterson speak, she immediately tells him...









(Just one comment regarding the reply to this complete dumbass/incel: a feminist podcast is not even close to being comparable)

Peterson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peterson

Peterson has argued that there is an ongoing "crisis of masculinity" and "backlash against masculinity" where the "masculine spirit is under assault".[15][103][104][105] He has argued that feminism and policies such as no-fault divorce have had adverse effects on gender relations and destabilized society.[103] He has argued that the existing societal hierarchy that the "left" has characterised as an "oppressive patriarchy" might "be predicated on competence."[15] Peterson has said that men without partners are likely to become violent, and has proposed "enforced monogamy", wherein monogamy is a social norm, as a solution to the problem.[15][103] He has attributed the rise of Donald Trump and far-right European politicians to what he says is a push to "feminize" men, saying "If men are pushed too hard to feminize they will become more and more interested in harsh, fascist political ideology."[106] He attracted considerable attention over a 2018 Channel 4 interview where he clashed with interviewer Cathy Newman on the topic of the gender pay gap.[107][108] Peterson disputed that the gender pay gap was solely due to sexual discrimination.[108][109][110] According to Nellie Bowles, most of Peterson's ideas "stem from a gnawing anxiety around gender".[15]
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TL;DR: guy takes his girlfriend to see Jordan Peterson speak, she immediately tells him... (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2018 OP
I think the follow up post was ok Loki Liesmith Oct 2018 #1
I was referring to the content of a feminist podcast vs. the content of a Peterson-like podcast. demmiblue Oct 2018 #2
Peterson is actually very complicated marylandblue Oct 2018 #3
He's a con man who mixes in the good ideas to give the bad ones a sheen of respectability. kcr Oct 2018 #5
He is more of a true believer than a conman marylandblue Oct 2018 #6
Reddit is a wonderful window to all sorts comradebillyboy Oct 2018 #4

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
1. I think the follow up post was ok
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:22 AM
Oct 2018

And I get the feminist podcast analogy. I wouldn’t want a partner inundating me with their politics all the tine...even if I agreed with them! Disagreeing makes it even worse of course.

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
2. I was referring to the content of a feminist podcast vs. the content of a Peterson-like podcast.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:29 AM
Oct 2018

I thought the follow up was good.

Of course no one wants to hear something ad nauseam.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
3. Peterson is actually very complicated
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 10:32 AM
Oct 2018

He mixes in good ideas with bad ones. He's big on personal responsibility, resilience and giving life meaning, but he also uses gender stereotypes, misinterprets research, and misrepresents opposing ideas.

Any young man interested in him should realize his target audience young men and leave girlfriends out of it.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
5. He's a con man who mixes in the good ideas to give the bad ones a sheen of respectability.
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:45 AM
Oct 2018

It's an old trick and there's nothing complicated about it. Any young man interested needs to know it's a con so they can run away.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. He is more of a true believer than a conman
Fri Oct 19, 2018, 04:58 PM
Oct 2018

And he is a filling a need in some people, so they need something to run towards too.

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