The Never Trumpers are really stepping up their bashing of Democrats

[redstateblues]

George Will, Nicole Wallace, Joe Scarborough et al are showing their true colors as we get close to the election. It’s almost like they have Never Trumper talking points. While it might be gratifying to hear them bash Trump, It’s good to remember they are still Republicans at heart and will most likely be voting that way.

[dalton99a]

1. 99% of Never Trumpers want the GOP to maintain power

They will not vote for a Democrat.

[Ohiogal]

2. That's depressing

in't it?

IMO if you vote GOP you are a Trump enabler, period

[obamanut2012]

4. Ana has and will again

She is voting Dem for the FL Gov and Senator.

[dalton99a]

7. People like her, Jennifer Rubin, James Comey, etc. are in a distinct minority

The vast majority have followed the examples of Republicans in Congress and joined the cult

[Glamrock]

3. Which is why I'm nauseated

by the constant Steve Schmidt/Nicole Wallace love fest found here regularly on DU.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. These two will never truly leave the Rethugs.

As long as the Pay Checks keep coming from Comcast,they will just read what the Producers and Writers put up on the Prompter.

[Glamrock]

10. Yep yep.

Fuck both of em. And don't tell me she's cool because she didn't vote for McCain/Palin. That shit don't fly. She busted her ass to get them elected. Did she leave the campaign? No she didn't. She worked to hoist Palin's unqualified ass on the American public. Fuck Nicole Wallace! Braaahhhhh! OK, sorry. End of rant

[11cents]

11. Steve Schmidt has left the GOP

[Wellstone ruled]

15. Only till the next Election Cycle.

watch and see.

[11cents]

16. Naw. He's gone.

I read recently that he was looking to hire on to Democratic campaigns. Certainly if he intends to continue as a campaign consultant/manager, he'll have to do it as a Dem.

The most thoughtful never-Trumper is Max Boot, who's acknowledged his own failure to recognize the sickness in the GOP that long preceded Trump. For me the test isn't whether these people become liberals -- Boot hasn't -- but whether they recognize that it's the GOP that's poisoning our country, not Donald Trump. As far as I can see Schmidt passes that test.

[Wellstone ruled]

18. Think Paul Ryan in 2024

as well as Chavettz for Governor in 2020. Steve loves the action,and don't think their is a Dem who would trust him,he has burned a lot of bridges with the Washington Establishment.

[11cents]

21. He's burned bridges with the REPUBLICAN establishment.

He's denounced Paul Ryan by name, and the entire GOP congress. They're not going to hire him FFS.

But whatever.

[11cents]

22. And parenthetically -- Paul Ryan in 2024?

He's leaving Congress after the midterms. By 2024 he'll be "Paul Who?" Or at best a senescent parasite like Newt Gingrich.

[Shanti Mama]

29. Preet's podcast interview of Max Boot

Was really interesting.
His show - Stay Tuned - is one of my favorite podcasts

[rainy]

6. I agree. Their current talking point is "What is the democratic message?" Then, they play

Trump's constant sound bites etc... over and over again. I'm having 2016 deja vu

[FSogol]

8. 1016? Like when Aethelred II (the Unready), king of England, dies after a 38-year reign?

I don't get it.

[SCantiGOP]

19. The message has been pretty plain from every Democrat I have seen

Healthcare.
That is what we need to run on this time.

[malaise]

9. I never trusted one of the

Not one

[Initech]

12. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy?

[cachukis]

13. Habits are forever. They must be replaced by a new way of thinking.

[Raine]

14. Trump haters are not on our side

they are reTHUGlicans and hate Trump because they want back into the inner circle and he has excluded them. I have NEVER trusted them and NEVER will.

[Honeycombe8]

17. Like what? Was there something today, you mean? nt

[redstateblues]

24. For some reason they all started bashing Dems with the same critique

[Honeycombe8]

31. I'm listening to MJ 10/19 right now. That's not bashing.

That's pointing out something that is real. No message. No torch carrier.

I've been saying this for months, as Schumer struggles to come up with some sort of slogan. It's not that hard, as long as you get someone who is good at that.

Constructive criticism is a GOOD thing, if a party wants to win. WINNING. That's what it's about.

If they don't see a national theme, neither does the public.

I mentioned this in 2016...that there was a problem with the ACA as it affects the middle class. I was branded as being a heretic. Boom...the middle class ran to the polls to vote against the ACA and trade agreements.

Listening to criticism and addressing those concerns is a way to win. The Repubs didn't win by ignoring what their base was concerned about and not formulating a national message.

Hopefully, the Blue Wave will happen. But that won't be enough for the next election.

We have it all, on the issues, if the Dems blanket the country with a unified message on Social Security, Medicare, health care, taxes....

To say these things is not "bashing" the Democrats. It's an attempt to help.

Scarborough's suggestion on countering the "angry mob" meme: We're not angry mobs. We're angry Moms! We're angry about low wages, no heath care, violence against women, public education!

Just suggestions. You don't offer suggestions & critique to someone you want to fail.

[MelissaB]

20. Joe Scarborough was not a Never Trumper.

[redstateblues]

23. For all practical purposes. If it quacks like a duck....

[Honeycombe8]

32. Sure he was. He was for Jeb Bush. Always. nt

[Vinca]

25. I don't think so. I suspect they want Dems to have some control of the situation.

Especially since Tiny's only nod to conservatism is appointing anti-abortion judges. (Where will he send the next mistress he knocks up?) Trump is the opposite of a free trader, is on track to bankrupt the country and no one in the GOP-led Congress is stopping him. Bona fide Republicans require Democrats. At least for the short term.

[DownriverDem]

26. About Joe Scarborough

He left the repub party a while back. Mika, Joe and the panel attack trump on every show.

[Dawson Leery]

27. Some are and some are not. Will and Erickson are full of shit as is deadbeat Dad Joe Walsh.

There is nothing to suggest that Steve Schmidt and Max Boot are insincere. They have called for a partisan Democratic vote across the board to keep the GOP in line. Schmidt lives in suburban New Jersey. His vote will certainly play a roll in ousting the GOP from the House.

[Demonaut]

28. unrec

[Polybius]

30. Some Never Trumpers are even worse than Trumpers

Take William Kristol for example. He is primarily a "Never Trumper" because he misses war, and feels Trump should have started one by now.

[Honeycombe8]

33. What are you talking about? Bill Kristol? You got a link for that?

I've been reading his tweets, among others, for months. I've not seen a tweet where he says he wants war.

[Polybius]

34. He is arguably the most pro-war person in the country

He is also likely the most well known neo-con in the world, with the possible exceptions of Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney. He beat the drums of war louder than any other in Iraq. He has dedicated his entire life to war, yet was never in the military. He's the definition of chicken-hawk.

Sorry for the rant. I just hate this man so much that it aggravates me. I owe you a beer.