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Sat Oct 20, 2018, 10:07 PM

Tao Te Ching Chapter 18: When people are unsettled, loyal ministers arise.

When the great Way is abandoned,
Benevolence and righteousness arise.
When wisdom and knowledge appear,
Great pretense arises.
When family ties are disturbed,
Devoted children arise.
When people are unsettled,
Loyal ministers arise.

https://www.taoistic.com/taoteching-laotzu/taoteching-18.htm

I think this applies very much to our current situation. Anyway, worth a read, imo. Any discussion welcomed.

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Reply Tao Te Ching Chapter 18: When people are unsettled, loyal ministers arise. (Original post)
gulliver Oct 2018 OP
cilla4progress Oct 2018 #1
2naSalit Oct 2018 #2
fierywoman Oct 2018 #3
struggle4progress Oct 2018 #4

Response to gulliver (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2018, 10:25 PM

1. Hard to have hope right now.

Just bearing down for what comes next.

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Response to gulliver (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2018, 10:44 PM

2. Thank you for posting this

This philosophy has an unusual effect on me, for some reason it calms me down, just seeing the words or symbols.

I agree that this is applicable to our current situation, I do hope that people are able to channel their anger into an intensified determination to overcome this horrible... situation.

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Response to gulliver (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2018, 10:51 PM

3. Thank you for this. And how many thousands of years old is it? and --

-- not much has changed.

From the I Ching (I believe):

Change is the unchangeable.

and

Times change and with them their demands.

(Where there's life there's hope!)

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Response to gulliver (Original post)

Sat Oct 20, 2018, 11:33 PM

4. In ancient times the wise ones were

as careful as if wading through a wintry stream,
alert like people who sense danger all around,
as respectful as guests before their host,
changing like melting ice,
as unpretentious as uncarved wood,
empty like valleys,
and as unexciting as mud puddles

Chapter 15

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