Can we please stop calling them "Conservative"? They are Radical Right Wingers.

[LBM20]

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They are not "conservative." They are Radical Right Wingers.

"Conservatism" is dead. They are no longer "conservative." It is now The Donny Rotten Cult and they are radical right wingers.

[Vogon_Glory]

1. Reactionaries

That’s another spot-on identifier. It’s an old, but accurate term.

[olegramps]

34. They are fascists.

[pretzel4gore]

2. Exactly.

The term 'Republican' too.... the nazipoohs KNOW rightwing exposes them (as pro privilege, anti need) for what they really are- greed driven liars

[liberal N proud]

3. I always say you can't spell conservative with out the CON

Sometimes I spell it CONservative o as to highlight the con in their efforts.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Democrats are the real small c conservatives

We want to conserve

the rule of law
pluralism
majority rule/minority rights
checks and balances
separation of power
the safety net
free markets
the freedom to practice ones religion or no religion at all
sensible immigration policies
support for democracies abroad
aversion to authoritarian leaders

...

[FakeNoose]

13. I hear you! and you are correct

We're trying to save (conserve) our democracy. At this point it's a very tall order.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

17. Along with....

The environment, our resources and our communities......

[Hortensis]

20. Truth to statement, but not terminology. Conservative is a real thing

and a huge factor in almost everything social and political.

It's one of the two main personality types, liberal and conservative, and can be identified pretty reliably in preschool children. Personality orientations can even be fairly identified in adults by MRIs because the two types use different parts of our brains more.

There is no such thing as a "moderate" personality type. Just variations of the main two from moderate to extremist, with every possible mixture between the two also. I have to say, though, that those prone to extremism on both sides are so different from everyone else, whom they typically reject and attack, and have so much in common with each other, that I wish standard terms would be developed especially for those whackos.

That said, agree with the rest. We always were conservers, and in this era we're the only ones.

Conservative ideology has been purged from the politics that conservatives by personality are still loyal to, which shows the extreme weakness of the ideology scholars tried to develop in the mid 1900s. Conservatism today is once again only a bundle of negative reactions that are horrifyingly easily harnessed.

Extremely unlike liberalism with its intrinsic relative positivism and intellectual roots in the Enlightenment/Age of Reason and embedded in our Declaration of Independence and constitution.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Edmund Burke is the father of small c conservatism.

If he were alive I believe he would feel more at home in our party than the Republican party. When I was in grad school I really disliked Burke's philosophy and was more drawn to the social democrats. The older I get the more I realize the value of prudence and the limits to the malleability of man. Burke wasn't opposed to change. He was opposed to change for the sake of change He supported our Revolution and opposed the French Revolution because of its excesses. History has proven him right.

Trump certainly isn't a Burkean conservative. He wouldn't even know what one is. If you could place him in any one ideological camp he would be in the authoritarian one.


As to me I'm philosophically liberal, operationally pragmatic, and temperamentally conservative.

[Sunlei]

37. good point! & Republicans are the definition of the noun "conservative"

adjective
adjective: conservative
1. holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.

noun
noun: conservative; plural noun: conservatives
1. a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.
synonyms: right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard;







"right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard"

[Ohiogal]

5. I think that all the time

whenever I read journalistic drivel that normalizes these fascists! Ugh

[Major Nikon]

6. I just call them assholes

Seems to be a better fit.

[CousinIT]

7. US-ISIS/American Taliban. Dangerous extremists. n/t

[Chickensoup]

9. Exactly.

[Sunlei]

38. the Republican controled government allows children to be ripped from moms- I call them

Republican Terrorists.

There are still about 6-7 thousand refugee infants & children who haven't seen their parents in MONTHS.

[Dennis Donovan]

8. I agree. The ideology they practice doesn't resemble classic Conservatism in the US politics sense.

It resembles a radical ideology more in line with Know Nothings than people like Nixon and Reagan.

[Recursion]

10. I'm a "conservative", in that I think rapid change, however intentioned, itself causes harm

And so, unintended consequences must always be watched very carefully, and wherever possible existing institutions should be altered to meet new challenges, rather than new institutions created. That's Burkean conservatism. The Republican party hasn't been conservative since Goldwater.

[lark]

11. I call them Russian Repugs or right wing extremists.

Radical right wingers is also very accurate. It equates to fascists which is where they are trying to push us.

[elmac]

12. they are fascists by every definition. nt

[mountain grammy]

14. Couldn't agree more..

If I'm called the "far left" (which by the way I wear with pride) they are radical right wingers, hellbent to NOT conserve anything.

[mtnsnake]

15. I respectfully disagree. The time has come that we need to make "Conservatives" a horrible word

just like they have been trying to make the word "Liberals" a bad word.

[vlyons]

16. No, they are neo-Fascists

make no mistake. They are motivated by greed and hate. If they could round us up and ship us to concentration camps, they would. They are already looting our tax money, denying us the vote, forcing people with no health insurance to sell their homes, and destroying the middle class.

[MarvinGardens]

18. They are certainly not fiscal conservatives.

Being okay with running a 1 trillion dollar deficit so that you can cut corporate taxes, is not a conservative position.

I would characterize their ideology as "fuck it".

[KY_EnviroGuy]

19. Another fine English word they've captured like a bandit and adulterated.

.........

[LAS14]

21. I agree. How can we stop them from hi-jacking a term we need...

... in a healthy two party system.

[bucolic_frolic]

22. Yes, you are correct, they are Radical Regressives

yet they are trying to label us "radicals". Interesting how they've blown through "liberal" and now onto something more extreme. They do not want to hear about progressives.

[cutroot]

23. They are Sadists

[WeekiWater]

25. The radical right wingers are being held up by old school conservatives.

The old school conservatives are more than willing to go along as they see Trump decreasing government revenue, gutting department after department, and increasing distrust in the federal government.

[zaj]

26. *** Regressives *** Regressives *** Regressives ***

[DownriverDem]

27. Maybe so but

conservatives are still supporting them because all they care about is winning.

[Sunlei]

28. No, I call "them"-Republicans, includes radical RWingers like their 'proud-boy nazis'

Republican party has to OWN their president and their radical RW groups.

Just like the Democratic Party would have to "own" any "hate groups" if the D party had any hate group fans.

[Honeycombe8]

29. I think the last conservative went down, when Susan Collins fell. nt

[pdsimdars]

30. N A I L E D I T ! ! ! ! !

[dlk]

31. I Like to Refer to Them as Wing Nuts

[Johnny2X2X]

32. White Supremacists.

They are the party of White Supremacy.

[Autumn]

33. Using Radical Right Wingers makes it sound like there are normal conservatives.

There aren't any normal conservatives left so I'll stick with calling them conservatives.

[stopbush]

35. True DU story: a couple of years ago, I suggested we start calling Rs "radicals."

A DUer responded that that would be a stupid idea because people would get confused and think that we were talking about the Radical Republicans from the time of reconstruction.

Seriously. That happened.

[Thomas Hurt]

36. Reactionary, Racist, Fear Mongering, Scapegoating, Militaristic, Religious co-opting (christian)...

ultra-nationalistic, white supremacist, propagandists, misogynistic.....

Modern American Fascism, Christofascist Theocrats.

[End_Electoral]

39. I simply call them Self-Servatives.

They don't give a crap about anyone else.

[Power 2 the People]

40. +1

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

41. Been saying it for years. They're regressive troglodytes. nt

[certainot]

42. use a more definitive term - like dittoheads, because it identifies the major cause

for this - talk radio - which is what has been pushing the country right for 30 years, a time frame that corresponds exactly with increasing partisanship cause by cons piggybacking limbaugh and the 1500 coordinated radio stations and talk radio-generated alternate reality. now trump is doing the same.

talk radio repetition is a major factor in creating the lies and distortions that inform their base and enable their politicians. while they scream that liberals calling them racists is political correctness it's team limbaugh that make sure they're all on the same page when it comes to excusing racism and anti immigrant hysteria and what their politicians can and can't say or do