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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:36 AM Oct 2018

Two saudi women found dead in NY after saudi embassy urged them to return to Saudi-Arabia.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/two-saudi-sisters-found-dead-in-hudson-had-sought-political-asylum?ref=home

Two women who were found dead and bound together in the Hudson River last week were sisters from Saudi Arabia who had reportedly been ordered to return home after requesting asylum in the U.S. Police in New York have yet to determine a cause of death for the two women, identified as 16-year-old Tala Farea and 22-year-old Rotana Farea.

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But the sisters’ mother, who also lives in the U.S., told detectives she’d received a call from the Saudi Arabian Embassy just a day before her daughters disappeared urging the family to leave the U.S. because the two young women had applied for political asylum, the Associated Press reports.




For Kashoggi, Saudi-Arabia's first version of events was that the 15 agents wanted to talk him into leaving the US and returning to Saudi-Arabia.
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Two saudi women found dead in NY after saudi embassy urged them to return to Saudi-Arabia. (Original Post) DetlefK Oct 2018 OP
"But billions and billions in arms sales, so pay no attention." - Dirty Donny* (R) Achilleaze Oct 2018 #1
Actually that was Pat Robertson 47of74 Oct 2018 #12
No Don the Con said that first n/t malaise Oct 2018 #17
OMFG malaise Oct 2018 #2
New York Times article is bizarre lostnfound Oct 2018 #25
Those first sentences read like they were written by a republican Achilleaze Oct 2018 #26
WTF malaise Oct 2018 #27
Some details on family lostnfound Oct 2018 #28
They lived in Virginia, not Saudi Arabia. (The older sister apparently moved to NYC recently). Princess Turandot Oct 2018 #32
The father traveled back and forth frequently so I don't imagine it was safe to post lostnfound Oct 2018 #35
K & R Fatemah2774 Oct 2018 #3
K&R ! montana_hazeleyes Oct 2018 #4
Doesn't look good... 2naSalit Oct 2018 #5
Halloween is nothing compared to what's going on. watoos Oct 2018 #10
Either killed BECAUSE they were seeking asylum, or seeking asylum to avoid being killed nt lostnfound Oct 2018 #19
While trumps trying to scare people claiming a caravan duforsure Oct 2018 #6
Exactly! Duppers Oct 2018 #11
Not only is he sending US troops to the border, pazzyanne Oct 2018 #15
Most landowners don't even want a wall. watoos Oct 2018 #16
Their land would be appropriated to build the wall. nt tblue37 Oct 2018 #34
We had no official response on Kashoggi, and we'll have no official response on this. Squinch Oct 2018 #7
K & R Duppers Oct 2018 #8
Horrible....16 and 22 years old. democrank Oct 2018 #9
An IT major who changed colleges.. doesn't even say what college she attended lostnfound Oct 2018 #29
It's looking like a pattern. Saudis in this country should be concerned. Vinca Oct 2018 #13
The Saudi government is launching their own "Saudi Express Card." Motto -- 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #14
K&R ck4829 Oct 2018 #18
Seems like the Saudi staff in New York need to be declared persona(s) non grata and sent home. n/t MrModerate Oct 2018 #20
Right here in the US get the red out Oct 2018 #21
Happened at same time as crackdown on female activist and others lostnfound Oct 2018 #22
Brakes taken off of Saudi repression as US no longer objects nt lostnfound Oct 2018 #23
Rift with Canada and Saudi group's threat of 9-11 style attack using Air Canada plane lostnfound Oct 2018 #24
One young woman and one girl ggmac0427 Oct 2018 #30
Trump has granted them permission to murder... anywhere. C_U_L8R Oct 2018 #31
kick & rec. nt Ilsa Oct 2018 #33

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. "But billions and billions in arms sales, so pay no attention." - Dirty Donny* (R)
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 05:40 AM
Oct 2018
* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
12. Actually that was Pat Robertson
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:12 AM
Oct 2018

Donny’s resident Jeeeeeeeezus (no relation to Jesus Christ) freak who said that.

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
25. New York Times article is bizarre
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:39 AM
Oct 2018
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/nyregion/sisters-dead-river-saudi-arabia.html

1. “The police are investigating the possibility that the sisters may have carried out a suicide pact, taping themselves together and throwing themselves in the river. But detectives have not ruled out murder.”

2. “The mother also received a call from the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington, informing her that her daughters had applied for asylum, the police said.”



Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
32. They lived in Virginia, not Saudi Arabia. (The older sister apparently moved to NYC recently).
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:55 AM
Oct 2018

It's hard to imagine them not using the internet. nt

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
35. The father traveled back and forth frequently so I don't imagine it was safe to post
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:44 PM
Oct 2018

They lived in Virginia but that doesn’t mean the government wouldn’t take action against them..evidently.

They used Snapchat to talk to each other, supposedly.
What is happening with the dad, I wonder?

Falls Church... so much to this story to raise eyebrows.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
10. Halloween is nothing compared to what's going on.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 06:52 AM
Oct 2018

We did trick or treating last Sunday and all I did was scare the shit out of a lot of ghouls with my motion sensored bat and witch.

One would think that Trump would be ok giving asylum to Saudis since Jared is a BFF of MBS.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. While trumps trying to scare people claiming a caravan
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 06:18 AM
Oct 2018

Has criminals and disease and is a major threat to all of us, and Saudi's here in this country by this rogue prince are being murdered and trump does nothing now to the Saudi's for it, except rewards them with new deals. Trumps sending them a clear message he'll allow this to continue. He value's money over others life. More now will run to vote for the Democrats in protest. Trump is creating a perfect storm against him and the gop right before this election with everything he's doing , saying , and allowing to take place here.

Duppers

(28,118 posts)
11. Exactly!
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 06:52 AM
Oct 2018

But it's not only $ for weapons but their oil we're dependent upon. Americans are very short-sighted. Willfully ignorant dumbfucks ruled by evil dumbfucks.

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
15. Not only is he sending US troops to the border,
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:36 AM
Oct 2018

but he has incited an influx of militia to head for the border. Landowners along the border are very worried. This will not go down well. Perhaps some of those landlords who are worried about citizen militias on their property will wake up and join the blue wave. Not optimistic about this however.

Duppers

(28,118 posts)
8. K & R
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 06:46 AM
Oct 2018

TRump knows, doesn't give a damn. The CIA, FBI, and other US agencies know what's happening. How long before this evil is stopped?!

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
29. An IT major who changed colleges.. doesn't even say what college she attended
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:31 AM
Oct 2018

Last edited Wed Oct 31, 2018, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Weird.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
13. It's looking like a pattern. Saudis in this country should be concerned.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:33 AM
Oct 2018

This administration certainly won't protect them.

3Hotdogs

(12,372 posts)
14. The Saudi government is launching their own "Saudi Express Card." Motto --
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 07:34 AM
Oct 2018

"Saudi Express - Don't Leave Hom

Excuse me. I suddenly don't feel too well.

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
22. Happened at same time as crackdown on female activist and others
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 08:15 AM
Oct 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/22/saudi-arabia-seeks-its-first-death-penalty-against-a-female-human-rights-activist?CMP=Saudi Arabian prosecutors are seeking the death sentence for five human rights activists, including a woman who is thought to be the first female campaigner in the country facing execution, rights groups have said.

Israa al-Ghomgham, a Shia activist arrested with her husband in 2015, will be tried in the country’s terrorism tribunal even though charges she faces relate to peaceful activism, Human Rights Watch said.

“Any execution is appalling, but seeking the death penalty for activists like Israa al-Ghomgham, who are not even accused of violent behaviour, is monstrous,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at HRW.

Trudeau defies Saudi Arabia and says Canada will stand up for human rights Together with her husband, Moussa al-Hashem, and three other defendants, Ghomgham faces charges that “do not resemble recognisable crimes”, HRW said. They include participating in protests, chanting slogans hostile to the regime, attempting to inflame public opinion and filming protests and publishing on social media.

ggmac0427

(38 posts)
30. One young woman and one girl
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:43 AM
Oct 2018

The headline and text state "two women", but it actually is one 22-year-old young woman, and one 16-year-old girl. So Saudi Arabian girls are now being killed in the United States.

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
31. Trump has granted them permission to murder... anywhere.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 09:52 AM
Oct 2018

FFS Trump is so corrupt and unfit. Bleccch.

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