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(42,360 posts)waiting and waiting for an ever-shrinking part of that red dot to finally arrive?
NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)which will cost time and money
tanyev
(42,360 posts)Caliman73
(11,694 posts)Jade Helm was a legitimate military exercise planned months, if not years in advance... carried out under a Black President. I mean, the nerve of a commander in chief practicing military scenarios with the military! (I hope I don't have to but ... ).
The right wing in this country knows no depth to its hypocrisy. They screamed at Liberals when we criticized the NSA for warrantless wiretapping and data farming under both Bush and Obama. Now the FBI is corrupt because they are investigating the pretty obvious improprieties from the Trump administration. Right wingers love Ken Starr who made a mockery of the independent counsel investigation but they thing Robert Mueller who already has convictions just 2 years in, is a traitor.
Of course going to the border to stop women, children, and other desperate immigrants is legitimate to them. They do not live in the shared reality.
getagrip_already
(14,250 posts)They will present themselves for surrender at the easiest border crossing they can get to and surrender pending the asylum review process. It would be stupid to cross the border illegally if their goal was asylum; it would be denied.
So the troops aren't needed for those that surrender themselves. Assuming there are some who know they don't qualify anyway, and choose to run across, you still don't need them. ICE already has enough personnel to patrol and detain.
So they can all hang out by the pool once the pictures get taken. Hopefully the military will find a training program they can use to put the troops through as long as they are deployed and idle.
calimary
(80,700 posts)Isnt it also true that troops cant do any law enforcement on US turf (cause thats the role of the local or state police)? Theyre just gonna stand around and try to look menacing?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)because its an INVASION!! of brown people.
This situation is really worrying me.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)calimary
(80,700 posts)wont.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)fucking country yet! God, I am so sick of this madness!
FSogol
(45,360 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)I was surprised that Mattis backed Trump in sending the troops. I find it a slap in the face to our brave men and women in the military to be used as political pawns.
True story. This past Tuesday I'm, in the waiting room of an eye doctor. I strike up a conversation with a gentleman my age and we find out that I worked with a person that is a friend of his. We had a jolly good conversation back and forth, he looked away for a few seconds, and then turned to me and said, what are we going to do about that? It was a TV with Fox News on talking about the caravan. I said, the caravan, and then laughed out loud. I said that has been going on for decades. We used to let a few asylum seekers in and send the rest back. I imagine with Trump we will just turn them all away. I have no idea why we need the military down there? Just then my name was called so I didn't get his response, but I expect he is already a victim of the body snatchers. Such a nice guy to be falling for such bs.
anarch
(6,535 posts)and would be tempted to say, "ideally, restore the Fairness Doctrine in some form or another so that people clearly understand that partisan propaganda and lies are not news."
kag
(4,076 posts)I would have answered, "Change the channel."
HipChick
(25,485 posts)or hurricane ravaged areas restored?
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)put up some tents to house them. Leave the tents, then send the troops home.
Bucky
(53,795 posts)and still having enough mindspace left over to launder Russian mob money
Iterate
(3,020 posts)Will a wet bad hair day or cactus-ass qualify for a Purple Heart? What stories can these troops tell at the VFW? Are they trained and equipped to fight barefoot moms? Can they still use the F-35?
So many questions, so little thought.
Bucky
(53,795 posts)... can we please fix the spelling of Guatemala?
lark
(23,003 posts)Only the worst of his base, the Nazis, the KKK, Proud Boys & White Nationalists approve. Anyone with a brain not broken with nonsensical hate can see this for the stupid expensive ploy this is. Such a disgusting waste of money and time and at worst it could lead to a big loss of lives for innocent people. Sick, sick, sick!
BSdetect
(8,989 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,063 posts)how much money this is costing and how monumentally stupid it is.
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,433 posts)...he [the odious racist traitor self-admitted sexual predator] or his sycophants open their gawd-damn mouths about migrant men women an children. Any MSM aiding his hate propaganda and lies is doing his bidding, his work for him--and should stop and just report the facts, however, they won't because it all about profits, yet I can stop it from entering my space--turn him off..tune him, them out. Carl Reiner said in an interview, simply stated, do the unexpected when it comes to trump--he wants the attention ..do the opposite.
duforsure
(11,882 posts)And is desperate with his claiming these women and children are a serious threat invading this country when they are 1,000 miles from the border, and pose no threat. He's trying to incite a conflict with Mexico because he's so desperate now knowing the gop will not protect him anymore. Everyone should vote all gop out of office now. Justice is coming for him , and he's using this as another PR event to promote an imagined threat for conflict with Mexico. He want a war somewhere so badly. He's scared he's going to prison too.
Blue Owl
(49,934 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)I don't know if 15,000 troops are enough those Central American women with strollers and small children are quite an opposing foe.
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)So embarrassing!
ashling
(25,771 posts)Nicaragua is just 2 days from Harlingen, TX