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man in a "pretty red" MAGA hat given a note (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2018 OP
EXCELLENT! Breathtaking, actually. calimary Nov 2018 #1
"Wearing a MAGA hat"....... I'll take a guess at the reaction...... usaf-vet Nov 2018 #4
As far as I am concerned, those hats are a modern KKK hood or Swastika arm band Moostache Nov 2018 #15
Yes. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #19
Bravo....!!!! N/t bluecollar2 Nov 2018 #20
Well said. Rainngirl Nov 2018 #21
Absolutely! That is exactly what they represent. LonePirate Nov 2018 #26
Good one! Poiuyt Nov 2018 #41
One would hope he read the note Generic Brad Nov 2018 #36
K&R peekaloo Nov 2018 #2
Powerful words. Hopefully the message had an impact. nt oasis Nov 2018 #3
Amazing that she could find the ability to write this. BSdetect Nov 2018 #5
On the plus side Akacia Nov 2018 #6
Bravo! True Blue American Nov 2018 #7
Excellent. Very powerful Soph0571 Nov 2018 #8
You never know. One day, and one Trumpist at a time... Progressive Jones Nov 2018 #33
That should have made him take his hat off... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #9
Yes, Trump is a "cheap shot" type. UCmeNdc Nov 2018 #10
This is the reason why I want to live in America.. If there any place Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #11
"If there is any place where we can overcome hate with love.. hostalover Nov 2018 #13
Beautiful letter EffieBlack Nov 2018 #12
These red hats replace their pointed hoods. Duppers Nov 2018 #14
Good comment ... not only do they not need to hide behind the hoods, libdem4life Nov 2018 #16
+1000 !!! Fla Dem Nov 2018 #18
Hit the nail on the head. They don't have to be in the shadows anymore. nt Fla Dem Nov 2018 #17
+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #22
Thank you for posting this pic! Duppers Nov 2018 #30
This sounds exactly like Trump and his empty-headed zombies, Duppers Nov 2018 #31
Her action reminds me of Martin Luther King's quote on hate: Liberty Belle Nov 2018 #23
Excellent post! Should be an OP. (nt) MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #27
K&R Lifelong Protester Nov 2018 #24
The Nazis had "Brownshirts" and we now endure "The RedCaps". Behind the Aegis Nov 2018 #25
Love it, but probably not the safest idea to drop hard truth on a MAGAt while in mid-flight. VOX Nov 2018 #28
I would be willing to believe he was not affected by it. TNNurse Nov 2018 #29
KR! Cha Nov 2018 #32
The comments on the Twitter post riverwalker Nov 2018 #34
Yes my thoughts too LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #37
But did Delphinus Nov 2018 #35
MAGA hats carry one central message ... lpbk2713 Nov 2018 #38
For most MAGA hatted people, they NCjack Nov 2018 #39
Wearing a MAGA hat automatically earns you a . . . MrModerate Nov 2018 #40

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
4. "Wearing a MAGA hat"....... I'll take a guess at the reaction......
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:15 AM
Nov 2018

......the head under the a MAGA hat

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. As far as I am concerned, those hats are a modern KKK hood or Swastika arm band
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:50 AM
Nov 2018

They are symbols of intolerant bigots, people who have forsaken reason and are not worth the effort to try an converse with or commune with.

I thank them for marking themselves so publically to help us keep an eye on them, its just too bad that we cannot seem to stop the craziest of them from doing horrific things at the behest of the orange anus.

MontanaMama

(23,308 posts)
19. Yes.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:26 PM
Nov 2018

+1. When these people self identify, I steer clear and will continue to do so. You can’t be a complete nazi asshole some of the time. They’re red hats even when the hat is left at home. Fuck these people.

Rainngirl

(243 posts)
21. Well said.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 01:11 PM
Nov 2018

I like knowing which ones they are so I can avoid them or be ready if they do something stupid.

Akacia

(583 posts)
6. On the plus side
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:39 AM
Nov 2018

I like when they wear the red hats because it identifies them as someone I want to stay away from.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
7. Bravo!
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 10:45 AM
Nov 2018

After Trump’s insulting tweet that the protesters were small and he did not see them when Video shows clearlly his Caravan had to turn to get away from them. God love her for writing that!

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
8. Excellent. Very powerful
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:01 AM
Nov 2018

However the idiot in the red hat will not take in a word of it - it does not fit his narrative so therefore it does not exist/ cannot be tru

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
10. Yes, Trump is a "cheap shot" type.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:23 AM
Nov 2018

Trump will do anything to remain in power. If it means taking a "below the belt shot" at any minority group to push his agenda, Trump will do it.

If it means lie, cheat, and steal to win an election, Trump will do it.

Trump thinks you are weak and dumb if you try to suggest to him that there are better ways than cheating and lying to get what you want.


So why does any one support him? It is because these people that support Trump like what they see. Don't think for a minute trump and his supporters are not coming after you once they get finished taking the minorities down.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
11. This is the reason why I want to live in America.. If there any place
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:30 AM
Nov 2018

Where we can overcome hate with love.. America is the place.

It is possible to hate the value and not hate the person holding it.. And even treat him/her with respect.

hostalover

(447 posts)
13. "If there is any place where we can overcome hate with love..
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:39 AM
Nov 2018

America is the place." I can only hope you are right.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
12. Beautiful letter
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:37 AM
Nov 2018

But look at the responses to the tweet.

Apparently, in Trump world being "civil" has nothing to do with tone but means being completely silent.

And "harassment" means saying anything to a MAGA supporter that they may not like.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
14. These red hats replace their pointed hoods.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 11:49 AM
Nov 2018

Her note was so very kind, imho.

Btw, KKK rallies began with a prayer.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
16. Good comment ... not only do they not need to hide behind the hoods,
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 12:17 PM
Nov 2018

they stand out in red and bloviate. The red hats stand for hat/red.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
30. Thank you for posting this pic!
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:45 PM
Nov 2018

I did a little sleuthing and found (thanks to your pic link)...

"This image shows a photograph from the early 1920s, probably in Portland, in which robed and hooded Ku Klux Klan members share a stage with members of the Royal Riders of the Red Robe, a Klan auxiliary for foreign-born white Protestants. A large banner reading “Jesus Saves” occupies a prominent position on the wall at the rear of the stage and testifies to the strong role that Protestantism played in the KKK philosophy of “100 percent Americanism,” an ideology that developed during World War I as a reaction to the perceived threat to national unity posed by the influx of non-Protestant, non-English-speaking immigrants.

United States involvement in World War I signaled the end of the Progressive era of American politics, while the end of the war ushered in a new conservativism in the nation. Americans—especially those of the middle class—felt increasingly threatened by both foreign and domestic forces that were beyond their control. Fears of communism and unchecked immigration spurred the formation of patriotic and
nativist groups throughout the country during the post-war period. In response to the latter, Congress passed the Johnson-Reed Act in 1924 which severely restricted the number of immigrants who could enter the country. Within the U.S., the migration of Southern blacks to the industrialized cities of the North was viewed as an economic and racial threat by the North’s predominantly white labor base. Catholics and Jews were still viewed as “foreign” religions that threatened the fabric of American life. Capitalizing upon these fears, the founder of the Second Ku Klux Klan, William Joseph Simmons, created a nation-wide organization that both perpetuated and profited from this new conservatism.

The Klan philosophy of “100 percent Americanism” rested primarily on three attributes: belief in a philosophy of white supremacy; adherence to Protestant or “American” Christianity; and the superiority of native-born Americans. Given Oregon’s long history of racial exclusion and the fact that almost 90 percent of the state’s population in the early 1920s was native-born, white, and protestant, Klan organizers had little trouble enrolling new members.

These kleagles played to the economic, religious, and political concerns of “ordinary” middle-class citizens by stressing the threats posed by immigrant labor, “foreign” religions, and communism. In addition, the KKK’s militaristic culture enhanced its appeal among members of other organizations structured along strict hierarchical and ideological lines. Recognizing this fact, the Klan organizers directed their initial recruiting efforts at local law enforcement officials, protestant clergy, and members of fraternal groups such as the Masons and the Elks."




Liberty Belle

(9,534 posts)
23. Her action reminds me of Martin Luther King's quote on hate:
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 02:47 PM
Nov 2018

"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

By resisting the temptation to respond to him with hateful and divisive words, she instead put hearts and called his hat "pretty" making it harder for him to reject her message. The fact that he took time to read the whole thing suggests he was thinking about this. The way to draw people out of hate groups is to treat them with kindness, according to those who have successfully deprogrammed some. Some of these people have probably never had much kindness, being raised in authoritarian homes.

Yes, they are deplorable people. But they are humans too, and something made them that way. Some are true sociopaths, but others are buying into propaganda of scapegoating, maybe looking to lift their own sorry lot in life. Helping them to see the human impacts on those they are demonizing, and show them there are kind people among those groups, is a positive step though a hard one to take.

I've been having some online discussions with a head of a local gun owners' group, who I sense is having some qualms over the synagogue shooting. I'm trying to encourage these folks that it's okay to speak out against certain actions of someone you voted for for other reasons. If you wanted someone who is strong on the 2nd amendment, that doesn't mean you should stand silently by while that president engages in fanning flames of hate against Jews, for example. I hope my words have gotten through to him.

Behind the Aegis

(53,952 posts)
25. The Nazis had "Brownshirts" and we now endure "The RedCaps".
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 03:41 PM
Nov 2018


The Twitter comments are completely predictable and demonstrate they, the right, are as big a snowflake culture, as the claim the left is. Classic projection. Of course, I see the, also predictable, "He can't be an anti-Semite he has a Jew daughter and loves Israel." I just love when people claim they can't be anti-Semites because they are married to a Jew, have a Jewish parent, have a Jewish ancestor, or once saw a Jew in a deli.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
28. Love it, but probably not the safest idea to drop hard truth on a MAGAt while in mid-flight.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 04:33 PM
Nov 2018

Maybe it's just me, but I'd be extremely vigilant around some dude who "advertises" #45 in public. Many of them have a loose grip on reality, and can be like tightly wound springs ready to uncoil in any potential situation where they can spout their bullshit.

While I applaud the content of the note 100%, I'd first consider the welfare of the other passengers before engaging a Trumpist within the tight confines of an airplane in flight. These folks aren't exactly behavioral-health exemplars.

Also, the tweet states that "he read it all." Okay then, what was his reaction? Indifference? Anger? Lock antlers all day long while on the ground, but mid-air isn't the wisest place to cross swords with anyone. About anything.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
29. I would be willing to believe he was not affected by it.
Thu Nov 1, 2018, 05:44 PM
Nov 2018

They have lost their souls. They have no empathy. They might as well be zombies.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
37. Yes my thoughts too
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 12:19 AM
Nov 2018

I don't have a Twitter account. Maybe Trump spoiled if for me. But sometimes I wish I did just to counter some of those hateful SOBs on there. Why are they always accusing 'liberals' of being the ones that are hateful. The one that says he has been in the middle of a left wing mob and it was scary. A left wing protest mob is usually full of hippies, bongo drums, students, older people, church groups, unions, and maybe a small amount of black block trying to get in trouble. But I've been in plenty of "left wing mobs" like that and its a very positive experience with singing, chanting, clapping, drumming, laughing etc... To say that a mob like the Charlottesville Nazis were not hateful, but left wing protesters are is ludicrous.

I wonder sometimes are they just that brainwashed that they can literally see news footage of white supremacist marches, angry, with torches, chanting racist slogans, and don't see that as a negative? And seeing hippies and grammas holding signs is "hateful"?

Or are they just pretending they can't see that, and litter message boards and Twitter with responses like that just to get another rise out of the 'dumb libtards'. Because that's more fun than anything else to them.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
40. Wearing a MAGA hat automatically earns you a . . .
Fri Nov 2, 2018, 09:46 AM
Nov 2018

Hearty greeting of "great hat, asshole," when you're spotted in public.

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