A conversation at the office...
I feel the need to get this off of my chest.
I had a very interesting conversation today at my office. I have a small business, I have 4 employees and all of them would have voted, or did vote, for Donald Trump in 2016. For the purpose of this story, being a Trump supporter is distinct from supporting him in 2016.
I have 2 employees that are hard lined Trump supporters. I make it no secret in my office that I hate Donald Trump. One of of my employees believes the Trump bullshit, the Trump hype, and without a doubt is the biggest consumer of fake news in my office. Let's call him Max.
As far as I can tell, the second Trump supporter likes Trump because of his celebrity and "untouchable-ness." Let's call him Joe.
The other two employees just preferred Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, but don't really care. I will also note that one of these two said that it would be nice if we had more businessmen politicians, and that's why he likes Trump (Al). The other employee didn't like either candidate but thought Trump was so transparent in his vileness that he would rather "have a devil that he knows" as opposed to a "devil" that hides her vileness (Daniel).
I'm having a conversation with all 4 employees because we were tuned to CNBC and Trump was onscreen talking about China. Additionally, the monthly jobs numbers were being reported.
I make the comment that Trump is such a fucking idiot, starting the whole fray.
Al comments that he'd rather take Trump over "crooked ass Hillary." He brings up the Clinton foundation and the supposed corruption that happened with the foundation, and Haiti.
Daniel comments on the emails; the use of a private server to conduct government business; and the how the hacking of the server and the hacking of the emails led to the deaths of several CIA agents. He comments on all the baggage Hillary Clinton had, and how that made her a terrible candidate.
Joe comments on how Hillary Clinton made a comment (or a joke, depending on who you ask) about how all black people look alike.
Max (my favorite to debate with) comments on how the economy is doing great; how there is low unemployment; and he's locking up our borders using the military. He says other things but I don't quite remember all of them. However, they were regular talking points of the right.
Max is a salesman. He gets paid in commission. He's not in the best economic shape. I have to say that I find it hilarious when the people that are in the worst economic shape comments on how Trump is doing great with the economy. The irony of that cracks me up.
However, while myself and Max were talking, Daniel chimes in and says "we need more business politicians because America is a business...". Max agrees with this. Everyone seems to agree that since Trump is a successful CEO and businessperson, that would qualify him to be a good president. I pushed back on that. I don't believe that being a good CEO (or being a CEO, period) means a person would necessarily make a good president.
This is the interesting part for me.
Max has a former boss named Ray. Max hates Ray. I've known Ray for years and I think positively of Ray.
Some time passes by (maybe an hour) and I walk to Max:
Me: So you believe we need more business people as politicians and presidents, right?
Max: Yes. Absolutely!
Me: Ray is a successful CEO with a successful business. If Ray ran for president, do you think Ray would make a good president?
Max gives me a rather vicious look and vehemently says "NO!"
Max: Ray is a crook. I think that Ray would be corrupt. He would use the Presidency to boost his business. He would use the presidency to profit. He would use the presidency to make money for himself and his family.
I looked at Max with such a confused face and ask "do you realize the irony in what you're saying? You don't believe that also applies to Trump?"
Conversation gets cut off and we go back to work.
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Having an employee in bad financial shape is nothing to brag about. 
