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(7,222 posts)This needs to be seen more widely.
Wounded Bear
(58,604 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)I told her that 11 people are dead due to the moron's inciting violence with his racist, bigoted, misogynist non-stop speeches and tweets. She said that there has always been predjudism and violence in the US and I told her, "Not to this level and from a President with a platform". She always pulls this BS "bothsidesism" and she is a woman, a Dem and in her 70s...I do not get it!
Augiedog
(2,543 posts)LittleGirl
(8,280 posts)NBachers
(17,082 posts)Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
Yes, 'n' how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Is blowing in the.wind.
Thank you!
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)associated with Passive/Aggressive Personality Disorder. If you could research this term, you'd find a picture of my mother. She has elevated this "bothsiderism" or "whataboutism" to an art form. I finally had to seek the services of a therapist to help me deal with her incessant argumentative BS. Irrespective of the topic (or the facts), she would always go off on the "bothsiderism/whataboutism" tangent. Everyone in the family tired of her schtik, and she eventually lost even her closer friends because she just would not stop.
You might want to consider something like this as being behind your friend's behavior.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)or is it subconscious? Does she like to start trouble and sit back and watch or does she like to get involved in the arguments she created?
I think my neighbor/friend is bending over backwards with trying to be "open minded" to the point of being blind, deaf and dumb. She told me years ago that she likes to watch Morning Joe (when he was still a GOP loving fool) because she wants to hear both sides of the arguments.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Oh, it's a conscious effort alright. Then when she gets the entire room in an uproar, she sits back and smiles like the Cheshire Cat in Alice's Wonderland. It took us years to realize what she was up to.
However, when we all got hip to her agenda, she got "wounded" and said that we were "ganging up on" her and, . . . wait for it . . . she was the victim. Something else she elevated to an art form. When I started calling her "Miss Trump" oh, did she howl with righteous indignation.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)when I just read that I thought of how tRump likes to do that in the Oval Office as he watches like a spectator in the Coliseum. Then I read on and saw that you actually called her Miss tRump and I laughed out loud. They sound like two peas in a pod.
LittleGirl
(8,280 posts)I think we have the same mother in your description. I too have had to seek therapy to understand why my 86 yr old mother makes me want to scream.
For example, my sister had a stroke in FL the other day and she was absolutely inconsolable. You know because how dare my sister die before her. I was thinking about flying over the pond to give her a hug and take her to the funeral if needed. She told me Friday to quit calling her so much. (my sister is going to survive and will have some short term memory loss for now. I swear she has 9 lives).
It makes me crazy to deal with that and I'm grateful that she lives 5k miles away some days.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)It's funny that you mention the physical distance between you two. I moved to the West coast -- from FL -- to get away from her !!!
And I sometimes thing that's not far enough. Mars looks promising.
I hope your Sis recovers. Strokes can rob you of so much. Suggest that she see a neuro-psychologist once she's up to it to check her cognitive skills and help her with recovering them if she needs to. That's one of the things they do, and they are good at it.
All the best wishes for your continued sanity.
spooky3
(34,407 posts)For assault and harassment of women.
notKeith
(138 posts)Definition:
Stochastic terrorism is the use of mass communications to incite random actors to carry out violent or terrorist acts that are statistically predictable but individually unpredictable. In short, remote-control murder by lone wolf.
Similar to climate change - you know the big picture, but any given specific, not so much.
Trump is a stochastic terrorist, with venomous 'suggestions' such that his 2nd Amendment friends can maybe take care of some issue, or that the press is the enemy of the people -- he puts this out there, and SOMEONE will take it seriously and act on it.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)Thank you for the education.
IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)which leaves no direct connection back to him.
Hsapienssapiens
(7 posts)..."Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)How can any otherwise intelligent person deny Trumps culpability?
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)mental and moral state of the kind of people who are attracted to Trump.
Hardcore Trump fans are not even close to being normal Americans.
This did not happen organically. There absolutely has been a "vast right wing conspiracy" unfolding for at least 40 years.
Who did they they choose to bring to their side? Those who are most easily manipulated. Combined with the old school Republicans who hung on, yet didn't see the sickening changes in their party, that's a lot of votes.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)The marriage between Trumpism, Faux News and right-wing talk radio is even more relevant to that relationship.
Thanks for the OP, Applegrove!..........
applegrove
(118,501 posts)Puzzler
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