Kasie Hunt got schooled again this morning on Twitter

[octoberlib]

by Charlie Pierce, Neera Tanden and Journalists Parker Malloy (Media Matters for America, Upworthy) Mark Harris (Vulture)


Here's the tweet :

Link to tweet

I interviewed @DanCrenshawTX for a piece on vets running. I enjoyed our conversation — and as an American I am incredibly grateful for his service and his sacrifice. Our country is better off with more people like him in Congress, party aside.



@ParkerMolloy
Replying to @kasie
Kind of odd for a reporter to endorse someone 2 days before the election...

@kasie
Replying to @ParkerMolloy
I’m not endorsing any candidate. I AM saying thanks for serving and saying I think more veterans in Congress is good for our country. If you disagree, we can agree to disagree.

@ParkerMalloy I mean, his opponent in this race isn’t a veteran, so...


@kasie
Replying to @ParkerMolloy
I understand that. I’m not urging voters to pick him over his opponent. I am saying he should not be mocked for his service and that I personally appreciate that he sacrificed for all of us.


@CharlesPPierce
Replying to @kasie @ParkerMolloy
Then, all due respect, that's what you should have said, instead of telling us that Congress will be "better off" with another anti-choice Tea Party stalwart.


@kasie
Replying to @CharlesPPierce @ParkerMolloy
I should have referenced the context in the original tweet for those who may not have seen the clip in question. Apologies.


@neeratanden
Replying to @kasie @CharlesPPierce @ParkerMolloy
The answer to this situation is not for reporters to endorse congressional candidates. Really surprising.


@kasie
Replying to @neeratanden @CharlesPPierce @ParkerMolloy
Hi Neera, I respect your work and I’m hoping you saw the fuller context in this whole thread. When I said “like him” I was directly referring to his record of service, as I noted “party aside”. I’d say the same for a Dem in a similar spot.


@MarkHarrisNYC
Replying to @kasie
Oh. Okay. Well, "party aside," I prefer a candidate who doesn't support homophobia under the guise of religious liberty, supports reproductive choice, and isn't yet another spokesman for the NRA. But yay vets no matter what they think or stand for?


@MarkHarrisNYC
Replying to @MarkHarrisNYC @kasie
What you're really selling here is the idea that voters ought to be paying less attention to issues and more to biography and personal narrative, an approach that has done a great deal to dumb down politics over the years. I don't know what you're thinking with this


@MarkHarrisNYC
Replying to @kasie
Valuing service from our veterans is very different from saying we need more people like a specific GOP veteran in Congress. How many times have we heard "We need more people like..." at a candidate's rally? You have to know that reads as an endorsement.



It's not the first time she's been called out. I posted this from last month when she got jumped on by Norm Ornstein for her both sides is the sameism. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211251065

[DURHAM D]

1. Hope her contract ends soon.

She belongs on Wolf News.

[OnDoutside]

11. I doubt it, she's incessantly pushed on msnbc. I'd rank her as a female Kornacki.

[asiliveandbreathe]

2. Kasie Hunt - Mz. wannabeeee - isn't doing herself any favor by trying to fight her way

out of what she said.....she is up against some really intelligent people.....I can't stand her....

[manor321]

3. She's terrible

Just another idiot in the media, constantly with the both sides crap.

[Thekaspervote]

31. Agree!! Awful...

[LenaBaby61]

52. "Just another idiot in the media, constantly with the both sides crap."

Yeah, I saw way too much of her unfortunately during 2016 when I was watching MSNBC during the GE 🙄

I remember there being so many good news people back in the day. But now-a-days, these corporate male & female bobble-head news anchor hacks are so crappy with their shows and with their "But both sides do it" Crap. Whether it be Hunt, or Todd or Kornwhacky, they SUCK. Check that, let me throw in "seasoned" news hack Mrs. "But here emails" Greenspan. I haven't watched her post 2016, but friends who can stomach watching her tell me and I'm pretty sure that she hasn't and won't incessantly mention treasonous-fatso-in-chief using his OLD iphone to gab away on which is a security risk has she? Has she CONSTANTLY mentioned that the Chinese et al listen in on him? Yeah, NO. She went on famously about Hillary's emails to the point of it being vomit-inducing 🤮, yet there more than likely has been nothing about anyone else in this most corrupt administration in history doing WORSE things than Hillary EVER did. I mean fatso-in-chief nor his corrupt and treasonous kids couldn't pass a security clearance, yet Mrs. Greenspan went on and on about Hillary and her emails 🙄

Although she wasn't a 'news anchor,' I sure as hell miss thee so much:

When politicians start talking about large groups of their fellow Americans as 'enemies,' it's time for a quiet stir of alertness. Polarizing people is a good way to win an election, and also a good way to wreck a country.

Molly Ivins

[skylucy]

4. I have always given Kasie Hunt the benefit of the doubt because she is kind of a newbie...

but she really stepped in it this time. The responses were right on.

[PatSeg]

25. I know what you mean,

but no matter how much time she is given, she still comes across as a not ready for prime time newbie. How someone with her limited skills and ability got her own show on Sunday nights is bizarre.

[samnsara]

5. i enjoy her

[Sucha NastyWoman]

6. She's just holding out

For a call from Fox

[Blue_true]

19. She is not blonde, real or bottle. Won't happen. nt

[Mike Nelson]

7. I thought she...

… was supposed to be a journalist? That is clearly endorsing this person... she could have just said "Thank you for your service." Democrats who served are running, how about them? She needs to be labeled a "Conservative Commentator" now...

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. how about "Con Commentator"

Conservative seems to be an extinct species. The name, only, was taken over by Cons.

[Roland99]

8. It was exquisite watching the calling out. Esp after Hugh Hewitt thanked her

[octoberlib]

15. She's still on Twitter doubling down instead of correcting her tweet.

[Roland99]

17. That always works out well

[Basement Beat]

9. Bingo.

@MarkHarrisNYC
Replying to @kasie
Oh. Okay. Well, "party aside," I prefer a candidate who doesn't support homophobia under the guise of religious liberty, supports reproductive choice, and isn't yet another spokesman for the NRA. But yay vets no matter what they think or stand for?

This whole... "Side with anyone who served no matter what." rhetoric is insanely dangerous.
But yet the same people cheer on draft dodgers.

[octoberlib]

16. +1

[turbinetree]

35. Second that motion...................she keeps forgetting that the right wing

want to eviscerate the First Amendment.................does she know she is suppose to be a journalist first....... .......I seriously doubt it........................and their 75 % team of talking heads give and support the hypocrites..................go figure, can't wait to see how they report what happened on Wednesday after the election..............just can't wait............................ .

[BamaRefugee]

10. I love MSNBC, as the only hope we have, but they seem to love Republicans, a lot, on staff too

[OnDoutside]

13. It's good to call them out, and keep complaining to msnbc.

[watoos]

44. If you are looking for msnbc

to save us progressives, it better get bought out by a progressive owner.

[louis c]

12. In the German election of 1932, Hitler was the candidate who was a Vet...

...thanks for your service kinda is beside the point, don't you think?

[OnDoutside]

14. Ouch !

[octoberlib]

18. Excellent response.

[uponit7771]

37. +1

[meadowlark5]

20. She's very bland and I think she's better as a correspondent than anchoring her own show

But since she married NBC news producer, Matt Rivera, probably didn't hurt in getting her own show.

[Mosby]

21. she looks like elisabeth shue.

[redstateblues]

23. Hardly

[Mosby]

24. Yeah, she does

Do you know the person I'm referring to?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkqDASS9HFIqQ05DRhSp9n_9Z-vm9dRjFC42cLgo0cqrw5i0bCWA




They could be sisters.

[Cha]

22. I don't know of her but what a dumbass

since this is what she supports.

@MarkHarrisNYC
Replying to @MarkHarrisNYC @kasie
What you're really selling here is the idea that voters ought to be paying less attention to issues and more to biography and personal narrative, an approach that has done a great deal to dumb down politics over the years. I don't know what you're thinking with this

Thank Goodness she got called out!

[LisaM]

50. Yes, that is the response that I thought really nailed it.

I'm very tired of people refusing to talk issues - it's this whole idea that a candidate who holds big rallies is better than a candidate who gets out on the ground and talks to voters and holds smaller events. The media prefers the big rallies.

[Prof.Higgins]

26. Hunt is a serial bothsiderist and incessant whataboutist. Weak correspondent. Worst host of MSNBC

simce VanSusteran laid a rotten egg with her FoxNews attitudes. Most of the younger MSNBC folks are not representative of their own generation, which is largely progressive, because this MSMBC lot are careerists who stand for nothing, not even the truth, but their own phoney public relations image. You know, the Chuck Todd model for scrambling up the greasy corporate media pole.

[uponit7771]

38. +1, "serial bothsiderist and incessant whataboutist"

[Raster]

39. +2

[RayStar]

27. KH

Kasie has offered favoring ideas on candidates many times on Morning Joe!

[Jane Austin]

28. I used to have a TiVo Season Pass for her show.

Not any more. She is the worst concern troll I've ever seen, and both-siderism is just where she starts.

[wasupaloopa]

29. She may be one of those "I got mine" kind who really aren't hurt by

right wing candidates.

[johnnyknj]

30. The Stepford Wives correspondent

Never will an original thought escape her lips.

[OnDoutside]

45. Fantastically accurate comment.

[YOHABLO]

32. Her alignment with ''nationalism'' seems to seep through the cracks by her language and demeanor.

And by ''nationalism'' I mean this overly zealous patriotism that RWers seem to have as a litmus test for their candidates. You can be a good, patriotic citizen and not have been in the U.S. armed services. People from all walks of life put their life on the line for others every day. Crenshaw's service is honorable, but his ideology is not.

[curiouso]

33. Pick your targets!

You're saying he should not be mocked for his service...
Now that's a sentiment we can all get behind. Precisely who is it that has mocked his service to the country? I've heard his neanderthal views mocked, but never have I heard him ridiculed for having worn the uniform or served in the military. Tell us, who is doing all this mocking?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. Exactly. Thought the same thing.

[octoberlib]

41. Actually , it was Pete Davidson on SNL

He told a bad joke about Crenshaw’s eyepatch which is due to a war injury. Still, there’s no reason for Hunt to say we need more people like Crenshaw in Congress.

[SunSeeker]

34. Ug. That was a horrible tweet for a journalist to make.

And her attempt to rationalize the tweet was so dishonest.

Kasie Hunt should be ashamed.

[Raster]

40. Good morning and welcome to "SHIT ON YOUR PARADE"...

...I'm your host, Kasie Hunt and also here at the big board is our good friend Log Cabin Steve Kornacki.

[Meowmee]

42. She is awful

I never liked her announcing

[7962]

43. Umm, the Democrats also have many Veterans running, so her comment also applies to THEM.

One in WV may well flip a seat, too

[zentrum]

47. Glad people kept

.....making the point. Didn't let her get the last (inappropriate) word.

[ProfessorGAC]

48. Well, Kasie, We Completely Disagree

First, he's a toad.

Secondly, as a STAUNCH believer in a CIVILIAN government being in control of the military, i think we need FEWER veterans in office at the federal level.

So, there you go, Kasie.

[Raven123]

51. This is the kind of comment that might fly in conversation

... where you have a back and forth exchange. People can sense the context or at least ask for clarification. On social media platforms such as Twitter, such stand alone comments rightfully draw fire. Twitter is no friend to nuance or gray zones.

I don't follow anyone's Twitter account, but seem to see this play out on DU and elsewhere regularly.

This is one of those times when I suggest journalists suppress the reflex to opine needlessly.

[mnhtnbb]

53. I was watching Morning Joe this am

when she took the seat that had been occupied by Eugene Robinson of WAPO when they switched guests at 7 am. Then Joe started pining for Ronnie Reagan and how wonderful Ronnie was.

I turned it off. Fu*k that $hit. Ronnie started the racism crap and running up the deficit with his damn tax cuts for the rich. The orange one is the logical outcome of what started with Ronnie almost 40 years ago.

[ashling]

54. I am not on Twitter, and I have respect for those who served in the military,

but SOMEONE in the news media needs to point out that there are many ways to "serve."

I was not in the military. I proudly protested the war in Vietnam and more recent conflicts. I took college deferments to finish (thoughP went through 1 semester after getting a relatively low number in the lottery without a deferrment) in my last semester I sugned up for a Navy Flight program, but did not make it through my physical due to an injury ... ironically, during college I had an open reduction due to a broken leg and dislocated ankle)

having been basically shut out of the military ... though after law school I did try, unsucsessfully, to get into Army and Navy JAG ...

My subsequent career was nostly public service oriented, often with state programs such as LIHEAP and mental health or non-profit ... the rest of my career was as a stay at home dad / househusband taking care of 2 kids while my wife either worked as Congressional Staff, running state energy efficiency programs or non-profit .... in addition, we returned to graduate school in political science and each taught college government for community college or state university ....

No one walks up to either of us in the mall to thank us for our service to the poor, mentally ill, or colleges - except former students - and yet little miss priss wants to say on national TV that we need more vets no matter their background or policy or values beyond that military service. Vets like Generals Petraeus and Flynn, and the Congressman who is the subject of this particular Twitter discussion.

Service and Values are EACH important.

BTW, my dad was a rural doctor and Navy Vet ... mom was a social worker and a Red Cross director both in India and Burma in WWII and subsequently at a Veterans Hospital after the war where she met and married a Navy doctor.