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Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:16 PM Nov 2018

Time to accept that a large part of the country is buying what Trump is selling

There's no blue wave tonight. We're losing every "reach" race. If we take the House, it will be by a thin margin.

2016 could be dismissed as a fluke, people voting for a joke candidate because they were disenchanted with the system. But this is a conscious embrace of Trump and everything he stands for. We are living through a very dark time.

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Time to accept that a large part of the country is buying what Trump is selling (Original Post) Azathoth Nov 2018 OP
Oh please. BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #1
yeah and people who stayed home will pay the price as well nt msongs Nov 2018 #2
It's the "red shift", pervasive Republican election fraud davekriss Nov 2018 #3
I hate to say it, but I agree. GaYellowDawg Nov 2018 #4
Totally agree😫😫😫 cmb1729 Nov 2018 #11
We don't necessarily know it's a vote for Trump. His favorable numbers are low. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #5
yeah but D_Master81 Nov 2018 #7
They say it's about Trump, but it may not be a referendum on Trump at all. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #19
Trump dominates our national conversation. Even the exit polls show he's playing a big role Azathoth Nov 2018 #13
You are just realizing it now? marylandblue Nov 2018 #6
I'm very discouraged jzodda Nov 2018 #8
I feel you, but it isn't over yet. dawg Nov 2018 #12
I hope ao jzodda Nov 2018 #15
Oh, and Georgia and Florida have been run by racist Trumpers since long before ... dawg Nov 2018 #14
That's really difficult to swallow, but it amazes me that Doturd has so much support. Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #9
Turn on Fox News for five minutes Wednesdays Nov 2018 #22
That's way too much punishment for me...can't take Fox for even a moment, Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #24
Or listen to the 30+ years of republican funded hate AM radio Tumbulu Nov 2018 #26
Are Repubs winning any 'reach" race. Appears to me they are on the defensive. Kaleva Nov 2018 #10
They're on the defensive, but they aren't losing ground Azathoth Nov 2018 #16
Repubs are fighting tooth and nail defending what should be safe seats for them. Kaleva Nov 2018 #23
No, they're not Azathoth Nov 2018 #25
I hate this country so much right now. alarimer Nov 2018 #17
I agree with the OP, mostly because a large part of the country only cares about one thiing, mtnsnake Nov 2018 #18
Yup. America knows full well what Trump and his workinclasszero Nov 2018 #20
I feel like vomiting. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #21

BumRushDaShow

(128,877 posts)
1. Oh please.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:18 PM
Nov 2018

There are 3 new (D) seats (flips from R) coming in PA and they are just getting the results in.

davekriss

(4,616 posts)
3. It's the "red shift", pervasive Republican election fraud
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:18 PM
Nov 2018

Read Krugman's op-ed in NYTimes tonight. And weep.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
4. I hate to say it, but I agree.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:20 PM
Nov 2018

I just hope we can win the House. And we are going to need an exceptional candidate to beat Trump in 2020. I'm not just talking qualified, our candidate is going to have to outshine Trump as much as Beto outshines Cruz. This feels almost as bad as 2016, because people knew this time what they were getting.

cmb1729

(49 posts)
11. Totally agree😫😫😫
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:23 PM
Nov 2018

If we do not take the House, all bets are off and people get what they deserve. This really hurts, because so many thought 2016 was a fluke.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. They say it's about Trump, but it may not be a referendum on Trump at all.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:30 PM
Nov 2018

We'll have to see what some exit polls say.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
13. Trump dominates our national conversation. Even the exit polls show he's playing a big role
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:26 PM
Nov 2018

We're far beyond the point where anyone with an IQ over 60 can rationalize voting for a national Republican while somehow denying that it's an endorsement (or at least an accommodation) of Trump.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. You are just realizing it now?
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:21 PM
Nov 2018

I realized during the 2016 campaign, even if Trump had lost, too many Americans bought it. That's been our problem all along.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
8. I'm very discouraged
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:22 PM
Nov 2018

Now we will hear trump gloating for two years. If we don't take the house then we can safely say that Trump has more support then I imagined. I was sure that our side would come out in force, backed even by some moderate Republicans. Georgia and Florida run by racist trumpers. Senate gains for the other side.

I'm more unhappy now then two years ago.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
12. I feel you, but it isn't over yet.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:25 PM
Nov 2018

We could still end up taking the House, despite massive gerrymandering. And that would be huge.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
15. I hope ao
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:28 PM
Nov 2018

Can't even watch TV anymore. I'll find out what happens here instead. If the news is bad I find it more comforting to here from you all. If it's good news I would also rather it be from you guys. ☺️

dawg

(10,624 posts)
14. Oh, and Georgia and Florida have been run by racist Trumpers since long before ...
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:27 PM
Nov 2018

Trump was even a thing. So if we fall short this time, we dust ourselves off and try again. That's what we do.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
9. That's really difficult to swallow, but it amazes me that Doturd has so much support.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:22 PM
Nov 2018

What are these people thinking, and why are there so many of them with that mindset?

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
24. That's way too much punishment for me...can't take Fox for even a moment,
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:48 PM
Nov 2018

especially Hannutty and Carlson. I get your point, though.

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
26. Or listen to the 30+ years of republican funded hate AM radio
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 11:02 PM
Nov 2018

This was a multigenerational approach that silly urban democrats utterly ignored. And we all suffer the lasting consequences. Fox News is only an afterthought.

Those of us in the rural areas have been calling out for help on this for decades, but have just been left to fend for ourselves.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
16. They're on the defensive, but they aren't losing ground
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:29 PM
Nov 2018

They're at high tide right now. They should be losing left and right just to bring them down to parity, but instead we're fighting tooth and nail, district by district, and we're losing races like FL, where DeSantis ran as Trump's testicle-washer.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
23. Repubs are fighting tooth and nail defending what should be safe seats for them.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:41 PM
Nov 2018

Dems are still on track to win the House.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
25. No, they're not
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:53 PM
Nov 2018

There aren't many (if any) safe-R seats tonight that are suddenly up in the air. Instead, we're the ones fighting to reclaim middle-of-the-road areas that should be a given for us given the environment. All the talk running up to the election of us penetrating deep into Republican territory is turning out to be bullshit.

We're still on course to take the House, but's it's not going to be a huge win.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
17. I hate this country so much right now.
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:29 PM
Nov 2018

I hate at least of all Americans. I mean truly despise them. I want bad things to happen to them.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
18. I agree with the OP, mostly because a large part of the country only cares about one thiing,
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:30 PM
Nov 2018

their perceived tax break they think they're gonna get.

A large part of this country would vote for Trump again and again as long as they think he'll get them an extra few bucks in their pockets. They all know he's a world class asshole and pathological liar, but they don't give a rats ass as long as they're a few cents richer in April. Pathetic.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
20. Yup. America knows full well what Trump and his
Tue Nov 6, 2018, 10:32 PM
Nov 2018

party are now.

And they embraced the evil wholeheartedly.

I’m glad I’m old and won’t live long enough to see the depths that the GOP and their fuhrer are gonna take this country to.

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