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Senate popular vote, Dems 55.4% Reps 43.0%, Senate seats +3 Rep. (Original Post) joshcryer Nov 2018 OP
Yes - this is what frustrates DU BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #1
We need to relocate. joshcryer Nov 2018 #2
Exactly. madaboutharry Nov 2018 #3
We did. phylny Nov 2018 #8
Good for you! joshcryer Nov 2018 #9
Can a few states with surplus Dems send us about 150,000 to Florida? In It to Win It Nov 2018 #4
Might the felony voting rights enable that unc70 Nov 2018 #14
CA retiring boomers... Pobeka Nov 2018 #5
We need Soros or Buffet to make a relocation fund. joshcryer Nov 2018 #6
yup! n/t Pobeka Nov 2018 #7
The problem is. Blue_true Nov 2018 #10
The problem is liberals don't like living rural. joshcryer Nov 2018 #11
You have a point Josh. Blue_true Nov 2018 #16
That stat is a little misleading Captain Stern Nov 2018 #12
That's a fair point. joshcryer Nov 2018 #13
We need to work on flipping state legislatures, Senates, Governorships and AG offices. Blue_true Nov 2018 #18
I also wondered if they counted all the CA vote grantcart Nov 2018 #17
California really distorts the numbers. Blue_true Nov 2018 #19
What happened with Arizona? Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2018 #20
They still say it's too close to call, but the R's are winning right now. Captain Stern Nov 2018 #21
Yep grantcart Nov 2018 #15
Grand popular vote totals are meaningless except in each individual state. elocs Nov 2018 #22

BumRushDaShow

(127,288 posts)
1. Yes - this is what frustrates DU
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:07 AM
Nov 2018

We have more than enough votes and turnout, but not in the "right places".

unc70

(6,094 posts)
14. Might the felony voting rights enable that
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:20 AM
Nov 2018

Given the demographics of the 1.5 million ex felons, I would expect there to be over 300,000 more Dems than Repub affected.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
5. CA retiring boomers...
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:26 AM
Nov 2018

I have a relative in CA that is recently retired and moving to IN. There's 2 for ya.

I maintain that the exodus of even a small fraction of boomers from CA can have a big impact.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
6. We need Soros or Buffet to make a relocation fund.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:27 AM
Nov 2018

Would probably pay dividends far better than dark money.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. The problem is.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:40 AM
Nov 2018

Democratic vote is unevenly distributed. Republicans have more vote in red states that keep the GOP relevant, instead of on the trash heep where it belongs.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
11. The problem is liberals don't like living rural.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:47 AM
Nov 2018

Republicans love it.

And rural wins the day.

We need to start a relocation movement. Find cities that would appeal to liberals. Get retirees (as another poster mentioned, retiring CA boomers), and make it happen.

Could be an interesting kind of "club" to start.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. You have a point Josh.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:23 AM
Nov 2018

It seems both of us are technologists (you seem to be more from the coding and computer architecture side, I am from biotech equipment design, chemical processing and high volume manufacturing). There are a lot of small cities and large towns in red America, that with the right venture capital investments, can become commercial hubs that draw in highly educated workers. Part of the investment would need to be investment in things that appeal to talented young and not so young people, like upscale bars, restaurants, a music and arts culture. With those things, those cities and towns become blue and then the blue spreads (like what is happening in Virginia now, and in parts of North Carolina). I think that Mitch Landrieu did something similar while rebuilding New Orleans, from what I have heard, that city has become a small scale hightech mecca, like Detroit is becoming. There won't be anymore Silicon Vallies, or Boston-Cambridges, but just causing small red cities and large red towns to be less dependent upon rural economics like farming, will automatically make them better.

Captain Stern

(2,195 posts)
12. That stat is a little misleading
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:50 AM
Nov 2018

It's easy to infer from those numbers that even though more of us voted for Democratic Senate candidates, that the Republican candidates won more elections.

That isn't what happened.

As things stand, we've won 21 out of 33 Senate elections yesterday. That's 64%

If Mississippi and Montana both go to the Republicans, we'll have won 21 out of 35. That's still 60%.

One could just as easily (and wrongly), say that it's unfair that we won over 60% of the Senate elections, while we only got 55% of the votes.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
13. That's a fair point.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:00 AM
Nov 2018

It still feels unfair that they make a net gain in total seats while we vastly outnumber them. And in a lot of these races all it would take is a few tens of thousands of liberals to have voted or whatever to flip the races.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. We need to work on flipping state legislatures, Senates, Governorships and AG offices.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:30 AM
Nov 2018

For a couple of decades, starting in 1960, republicans focused on that level, they built a base that is allowing them to inordinately influence national politics and policy, and the Courts. We have tended to focus more on federal level races, while forgetting that getting that 31 year old county commissioner elected and repeatedly relected means that we will ultimately have a 40 something running for the US Senate, from a good base.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. California really distorts the numbers.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:38 AM
Nov 2018

People mention that Hillary got 3 million more vote. But most of that 3 million came from large blue California. She was -110,000 in Florida, - small amounts in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, that is the key, California was an overkill win for her, but unfortunately, with how our president is elected, the key states where she had deficits mattered as much, if not more (not saying that we can lose California and win, but if we won California by only 200,000 votes, but also won the other states, that means more than winning California by 4 million and losing all of the others by maybe 210,000 combined).

Captain Stern

(2,195 posts)
21. They still say it's too close to call, but the R's are winning right now.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:19 AM
Nov 2018

McSally(R) is up over Sinema (D) 49.3% to 48.4%.

The irritating thing, for me at least, is that the Green Party candidate has 2.2%

elocs

(22,474 posts)
22. Grand popular vote totals are meaningless except in each individual state.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:30 AM
Nov 2018

And that holds true even in presidential elections as we learned last time.

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