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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMueller has apparently been blunted or neutered
Matthew Whittaker, the new acting AG, will now be Mueller's boss. Mueller can not do ANYTHING without Whittaker's approval.
For his part, Whittaker is one of very few DOJ officials who has been on the record as hostile to the special counsel.
The media speculation is that this ends the probe as it stands now, with no report being made or if made, never made public.
The media is sounding an alarm here. It is highly unethical that the subject of the investigation gets to choose the person in charge of the investigation. They are saying now is the time for people to speak out LOUDLY in opposition.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)We have a traitor running the country.
Turbineguy
(37,295 posts)Trump does not reciprocate loyalty.
lark
(23,065 posts)drumpf just cares about doing PUtin's bidding and making money for himself, those are the only things he actually gives a crap about. He hates brown/black & poor people, but just uses those to motivate other racist haters. If he can have Mueller's work destroyed without a report, it will be done and may be already happening. I don't think he can stop NY from trying him & family, but there will be no more federal investigations except in the House and he will defy them and get away with it because of Kavarape, Gorsuch, Thomas & Alito.
agingdem
(7,805 posts)you think Mueller didn't see this coming...of course he did..that's why he handed so much of the investigation over to the states...also...Trump can fire Mueller but we've got the House...Mueller can be subpoenaed and testify before House committee and tell what he knows...this doesn't stop bc Rosenstein in rendered impotent...
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)YessirAtsaFact
(2,064 posts)One more thing to argue in court
Nitram
(22,768 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:26 AM - Edit history (2)
There are dozens of agents working on the investigation, and it has a momentum of its own which Whitless cannot derail. Let's avoid doubtful doomsday scenarios. Now that we have the House it will be far more difficult to stop investigations for partisan reasons.
The AG has the power to stop the investigation tomorrow. All those agents can be reassigned.
Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts)That said, conventional wisdom says Mueller has this anticipated and a dead man switch in place.
Nitram
(22,768 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts)Given your attitude, I'll leave it to you to educate yourself.
Have a swell evening.
Nitram
(22,768 posts)Stinky, don't get all righteous after telling me I'm "dead wrong" without offering a single shred of evidence that I am. You need to work on your attitude before dishing out advice about attitudes. Have a wonderful week!
Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts)As to attitude, mine is fucking rotten. Always was, always will be.
You're still dead wrong, by the way. Dead. Fucking. Wrong.
Nitram
(22,768 posts)Keep digging that hole, dude. After Mueller has turned in his completed report I'll reach down and give you a hand out.
Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts). . . . fucking up and then covering it with bluster and sarcasm.
Then OP was, as stated, speculative. This is a discussion board, not a news site. Speculation is often discussed.
You don't know what a dead man switch is. I speculated there is one. Or two or three. Which speculates that Mueller can well navigate through this.
But you go ahead, Marty. Bluster away. As I usually do, I tire easily of talking to you. Bye.
Nitram
(22,768 posts)MikeMa2
(15 posts)Nitram
(22,768 posts)breadth and depth of the FBI as an institution.
Hekate
(90,565 posts)He was lucky he didn't lose his thumb.
The term is still in use, even though I first heard it as a small child back in the Pleistocene.
Hekate
(90,565 posts)I particularly liked Nicolle Wallace's imagery from some weeks back. (month? years? one loses all sense of time)
She painted a word picture of an embassy surrounded by terrorists, and the job of the ambassador was to hit the "send" button on all vital docs. She thought the time was fast approaching.
Thekaspervote
(32,715 posts)Changed but the investigation and the evidence will be there
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)There's a lot of guess-work happening in regards to Sessions' removal, and both the immediate as well as the longer-term consequences of that change.
I'm reading too many opinions from DC insiders which counter, or even contradict one another.
dameatball
(7,395 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)They flout the normal rules time and again.
It is a dangerous time, indeed.
eleny
(46,166 posts)We've got some good chess moves, too.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)And we all know how that went.
Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)It will be tied up in court very soon I expect.
LincolnRossiter
(560 posts)Trump's a dumb, crooked shit. But he'll have to tread more lightly than that. This is a legal matter and the DoJ and Special Counsel have codified authorities than can be fought for in court. Unless he tries to tear up Mueller's commission and/or straight up fire him, he can't just get his hands all in the pot.
Even some of the cowards in the Senate would cry foul.
Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts)The OP was speculative. The clue was "apparently".
And I can only wish I had the influence to "put things out there" in any meaningful way.
Have fun. Sea around campus.
Grasswire2
(13,565 posts)Who will be there?
Will you? And you? And you?
Hekate
(90,565 posts)Takket
(21,529 posts)All the evidence is already collected and the House can just fund Mueller to pick up right where he left off in January.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Maybe the new house can subpoena people and have public hearings. Maybe the states will prosecute.
Rosenstein being removed was called a trigger point for a reason. I'll be at today's 5pm protests and future ones. There is likely one near most people. Here's where to find out
[link:http://act.moveon.org/event/mueller-firing-rapid-response/search/?akid=.37597971.MscvEB|]
I'd rather be called an alarmist than have to looke back and regret not doing what I could. From
They Thought They Were Free
"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. Thats the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shockedif, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in 43 had come immediately after the German Firm stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in 33. But of course this isnt the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
[link:http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html|]