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BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:34 PM Nov 2018

Can you attend the protests against firing Rosenstein tonight at 5 PM?



Please spread the word. This is just off the presses. It was planned since last Dec when he threatened to fire Mueller.

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Donald Trump has installed a crony to oversee the special counsel's Trump-Russia investigation, crossing a red line set to protect the investigation. By replacing Rod Rosenstein with just-named Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker as special counsel Robert Mueller's boss on the investigation, Trump has undercut the independence of the investigation. Whitaker has publicly outlined strategies to stifle the investigation and cannot be allowed to remain in charge of it. The Nobody Is Above the Law network demands that Whitaker immediately commit not to assume supervision of the investigation. Our hundreds of response events are being launched to demonstrate the public demand for action to correct this injustice. We will update this page as the situation develops.
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Can you attend the protests against firing Rosenstein tonight at 5 PM? (Original Post) BigmanPigman Nov 2018 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Louis1895 Nov 2018 #1
You bet your ass I will attend...!!! pangaia Nov 2018 #2
RESIST! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #41
link not opening. not open directly at moveon.org maybe it is swamped :-) nt msongs Nov 2018 #3
I just tried it again and it is still "up". Try again! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #4
thanks it worked this time. several local events tomorrow nt msongs Nov 2018 #5
Good...there are 4 within 45 miles of my home! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #11
Yes Midnightwalk Nov 2018 #6
Bring people with you too! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #42
Ummm... isn't it Sessions who was fired? kysrsoze Nov 2018 #7
It is pretty much the same thing. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #8
I agree. We should go but Rod isn't affected yet California_Republic Nov 2018 #16
Immediate response to threat is by far best and most effective. Hortensis Nov 2018 #80
We are protesting the same thing we would have had Mueller been fired Tom Rinaldo Nov 2018 #91
Thank you!!!! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #93
Attending my local in Muncie, IN!!! Adrahil Nov 2018 #9
Thank you!!!! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #43
Definite yes. Just having fam discussion on this. ret5hd Nov 2018 #10
You are a real American! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #44
Yes Generic Other Nov 2018 #12
That is good to hear! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #45
Going, with reluctance JohnnyLib2 Nov 2018 #13
Maybe they are trying to get ahead of the game with this wake up call to action. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #14
I agree and will go and hope it's effective. JohnnyLib2 Nov 2018 #15
400 Gold SW in Albuquerque. triron Nov 2018 #17
You rock! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #46
I'm going to try Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #18
Wow...double duty! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #47
Ahhh Charlotte Little Nov 2018 #65
Attending in Silver Spring, MD! NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #19
Are you going to bring signs? BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #48
Yeah, but I haven't decided what to say yet NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #98
I am carrying my Lock Him Up sign with BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #99
Yes. Vancouver WA. violetpastille Nov 2018 #20
Yippee WA...thank you! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #49
ROSENSTEIN HAS NOT BEEN FIRED!!! brooklynite Nov 2018 #21
who put you in charge? Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #23
K & R !!! Progressive Jones Nov 2018 #27
Who put you in Charge of asking who is in charge? grantcart Nov 2018 #39
1 thing I have seen kozar Nov 2018 #64
LOLOL nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #68
Allow me to clarify... brooklynite Nov 2018 #73
Rosenstein has been relieved of supervision of the Mueller investigation rzemanfl Nov 2018 #77
How was he "illegally appointed"? brooklynite Nov 2018 #81
Sessions was fired. Whatshisname was not approved by Senate. Vacancies Act. rzemanfl Nov 2018 #82
No, Whitaker has merely been named "Acting" AG brooklynite Nov 2018 #83
Argue that with Tribe, not me. It has to do with going outside line of succession. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #84
Here- rzemanfl Nov 2018 #88
Which invests Whitaker with the full authority of that office jberryhill Nov 2018 #103
What's wrong in protesting a future event? at140 Nov 2018 #36
If he's fired from overseeing Mueller, he's fired for the purposes at hand ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #61
That's true, same effect uponit7771 Nov 2018 #72
"If" cause Red Don has shown to be a trustworthy guy?!?! uponit7771 Nov 2018 #71
Always nice to know there's a hall monitor waiting to instruct us LanternWaste Nov 2018 #109
There is one scheduled on the UD campus. Already have my sign. n/t woodsprite Nov 2018 #22
Yeah, me too! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #25
Mine says "When injustice becomes law - Resistance becomes duty" woodsprite Nov 2018 #33
k&r DesertRat Nov 2018 #24
Elgin, IL 5 PM Elgin Civic Center Progressive Jones Nov 2018 #26
RESISTANCE works! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #51
For sure (nt) lordbateman Nov 2018 #28
America and I thank you very much! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #53
Humboldt State University in Arcata, CA Garrett78 Nov 2018 #29
You'll still be able to make it... BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #35
I've attended many. They all vary in length. Apparently 430 or so people have said they'll be there. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #62
My grandparents hometown. backtoblue Nov 2018 #85
Read my post in general disscusion WE will be there!!! N/t kozar Nov 2018 #30
..... BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #54
Yup! I'm gonna be a bit late but I'm going! calimary Nov 2018 #31
It will probably last two hours..First there are the speakers then comes the march. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #55
To put everyone in the mood. Listen up below. Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #32
Love this song,,please allow me, kozar Nov 2018 #37
I should have included that I'm going tomorrow. Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #38
Great! kozar Nov 2018 #52
PORTLAND OREGON - NORTH WATERFRONT PARK Thunderbeast Nov 2018 #34
Please spread the word via social media. Thanks for your patriotism! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #56
Also one at Senator Wyden's office. nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #69
North Bend WA Wawannabe Nov 2018 #40
WA must be having a lot of them. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #58
K&R. Yes. And I will. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #50
Yippee! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #59
Yes Meowmee Nov 2018 #57
I know, there are 4 near me. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #60
I was surprised there were two. Meowmee Nov 2018 #67
I'm dusting off my pink pussy hat and will be going Greybnk48 Nov 2018 #63
I hope they perform double duty... BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #66
Yes, I'm attending in Raleigh, NC mnhtnbb Nov 2018 #70
So far, I'm not impressed... brooklynite Nov 2018 #74
Of course. ret5hd Nov 2018 #75
You plan one. I'll fly there. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #76
Athens, GA (home of KKKemp!) 5pm at the Arches, Broad St & College Ave. CottonBear Nov 2018 #78
Your area's organizers are fantastic! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #94
Thanks BP! Athens, GA has over 700 people signed up! CottonBear Nov 2018 #110
WOW! I have a feeling the turnout will surprise many. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #112
I'll be in Bethlehem, PA tonight meow2u3 Nov 2018 #79
I know your area. It is beautiful. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #95
I have emailed my host to ask for a ride. tavernier Nov 2018 #86
Was Rosenstein fired? I hadn't seen that. MineralMan Nov 2018 #87
My question too. Tipperary Nov 2018 #89
He has been taken off the case. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2018 #90
Nope, but this is the scenario that the organizers prepared for. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #96
I wonder how many on DU now think he's been fired. cwydro Nov 2018 #116
I don't know, but I dislike threads that start with false statements. MineralMan Nov 2018 #117
Absolutely Yes. Janet and I will be there. Our whole household minus our cat who doeesn't travel n/t Tom Rinaldo Nov 2018 #92
Good! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #97
Since Whitaker won't recuse himself, I'm going LeftInTX Nov 2018 #100
My wife and I will be at the one in Phoenix. kairos12 Nov 2018 #101
Exhibit A For "Why It Is A Bad Idea To Use Relative Time Words Like 'Tomorrow'" jberryhill Nov 2018 #102
Thanks, I posted it last night on several forums. BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #104
...which means it will be wrong tomorrow jberryhill Nov 2018 #106
You are making me laugh. I needed that! BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #108
Will be there - San Mateo, CA n/t kiranon Nov 2018 #105
... BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #107
Yes I'm marching! Nevermypresident Nov 2018 #111
We have been in a crisis for months a few of the BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #113
Will be at Hawthorne and Sepulveda, Torrance, CA, at 5:00 today! TruckFump Nov 2018 #114
There will be... BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #115

Response to BigmanPigman (Original post)

California_Republic

(1,826 posts)
16. I agree. We should go but Rod isn't affected yet
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:18 PM
Nov 2018

Update:

The Justice Department says acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker will immediately take over supervising special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation from Rod Rosenstein, the embattled deputy attorney general.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
80. Immediate response to threat is by far best and most effective.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:41 AM
Nov 2018

We are said to be at the break-glass moment, and that's before the conflagration gets out of control.

We've emailed and tweeted our senators and are waiting for relatives to decide how we're getting to the city.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
91. We are protesting the same thing we would have had Mueller been fired
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:22 PM
Nov 2018

Anyone who believes that firing Mueller would warrant immediate nationwide protests should understand that this is Trump's attempt to achieve the same end in a slightly more subtle way, designed to avoid triggering off nationwide protests. Trump just hand picked a loyalist lackey, breaking Justice Department appointment rules, to oversee the Special Counsel for the sole reason of undermining Mueller's work in any of a dozen ways. We can't be so gullible as to accept "oh, he didn't actually fire Mueller" and thereby allow Trump to manipulate us into passivity now.

And beyond that it is past any point of debating. I for one agree that this should be the trip wire for our protests, but the call has been made regardless. Either we mobilize in response or we look like a paper tiger.

I will be there

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
14. Maybe they are trying to get ahead of the game with this wake up call to action.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:03 PM
Nov 2018

Show up in strong numbers and the admin will see we won't let them advance this plan of theirs. It is time for him to see he can not rule like a dictator and we the people will stop this shit show.

JohnnyLib2

(11,211 posts)
15. I agree and will go and hope it's effective.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:17 PM
Nov 2018

We'll just need to be ready to answer questions and make the concerns clear.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
99. I am carrying my Lock Him Up sign with
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:39 PM
Nov 2018

the moron's face behind bars and "Traitor, You're Fired" and the other side a crazy tRump as a Russian nesting doll and "Impeach now, Replace later".

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
21. ROSENSTEIN HAS NOT BEEN FIRED!!!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:29 PM
Nov 2018

He's still Deputy Attorney General. The only change is that he's no longer overseeing Mueller. If the new guy abuses his authority and interferes with the investigation, THEN you can protes.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. Who put you in Charge of asking who is in charge?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:11 AM
Nov 2018

I am just asking cause I want to stay away of the guy who puts people in charge cause I don't want be in charge of anything.

kozar

(2,088 posts)
64. 1 thing I have seen
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:55 AM
Nov 2018

About DU , is there are more than a few posters who feel like " hall monitors"
Having said that, these are not people I have seen around here long,,my advice is,,

Say what's on yer mind and ignore any " police actions" a long the way

Koz

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
73. Allow me to clarify...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 08:08 AM
Nov 2018

You're welcome to protest anytime you want. But if you're going to protest something that hasn't happened, you're not going to a lot of people rallying behind you.

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
77. Rosenstein has been relieved of supervision of the Mueller investigation
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:33 AM
Nov 2018

by an illegally appointed sycophant. That's enough to get my ass to a protest.

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
82. Sessions was fired. Whatshisname was not approved by Senate. Vacancies Act.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:17 AM
Nov 2018

Tribe raised this. There's a post.

brooklynite

(94,333 posts)
83. No, Whitaker has merely been named "Acting" AG
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:53 AM
Nov 2018

Trump can either appoint a permanent replacement from within approved Cabinet members or go back to Senate for approval.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
103. Which invests Whitaker with the full authority of that office
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:54 PM
Nov 2018

It is quite obvious that a raging partisan who has declared his hostility to the Mueller investigation has just been handed the keys to the DoJ.
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
61. If he's fired from overseeing Mueller, he's fired for the purposes at hand ...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:29 AM
Nov 2018

The question for me is ... IS HE FIRED from overseeing Mueller?

Personally I don't think the protests should be held until it's formally confirmed that he has been removed from that job.

Is it formally announced yet? Asking because I honestly don't know.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
109. Always nice to know there's a hall monitor waiting to instruct us
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:08 PM
Nov 2018

Always nice to know there's a hall monitor waiting to instruct us when we may or may not protest.

And although those instructions are both ineffectual and without consequence, it yet still puts the warmth of a small Bic lighter in my heart.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
25. Yeah, me too!
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 11:55 PM
Nov 2018

I just went through all of my signs from the 21 events I have attended as an activist and patriot. When you look at them it is like a "greatest/worst" review of all the issues he has created since not being elected.

They go back to Nov 2016...my first official protest that I attended less than a week after he wasn't elected.
Climate change, immigrants, guns, impeachment, Kavanaugh, the Tax Plan, the ACA being dismantled, women's rights, Russia and special investigation, etc. I am exhausted!

woodsprite

(11,904 posts)
33. Mine says "When injustice becomes law - Resistance becomes duty"
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:01 AM
Nov 2018

I actually resurrected it from the last Women's March. Unfortunately, my daughter's work as well since this is after the election, but then again, she has no classes tomorrow, so she could work on a new one

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
35. You'll still be able to make it...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:06 AM
Nov 2018

I don't know if you have attended any events before but they generally last two hours. There are speakers then that is followed by a march.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
55. It will probably last two hours..First there are the speakers then comes the march.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:23 AM
Nov 2018

You'll make it! Thank you so much!!!

kozar

(2,088 posts)
37. Love this song,,please allow me,
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:09 AM
Nov 2018

Songs,memes, insta, snaps,, dont get it anymore. This crap is serious.
Please read my posts before you get pissed,, we can no longe dt be keyboard warriors.
In this old guy's opinion, we either act physically or we dont.

I am truly sorry to all the youngsters that think typing,copying,pasting makes a difference.

Just like Clint Eastwood can make millions to say on camera , " Get off my lawn!",,

I in ave earned and deserve the right to say,,, " get off your ass,, these are dangerous times:.
Koz out

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
60. I know, there are 4 near me.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:28 AM
Nov 2018

This is going to be big. It SHOULD be big since this is a really big, serious issue for our poor country.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
66. I hope they perform double duty...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:32 AM
Nov 2018

Keeping ears and head warm and also making a political statement...it works for me!

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
78. Athens, GA (home of KKKemp!) 5pm at the Arches, Broad St & College Ave.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:37 AM
Nov 2018

Assemble at the arches and then march through downtown to the courthouse.

tavernier

(12,368 posts)
86. I have emailed my host to ask for a ride.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:13 AM
Nov 2018

I can’t drive in the dark because of eye surgery, and the time change puts the event past sunset. A bit too far to pay for cab, but there should be others going from my area. Waiting for a response.

I wonder if other seniors who might otherwise attend have the same night vision driving problems? But a noon protest would be difficult for ppl who work days.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,153 posts)
90. He has been taken off the case.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:00 PM
Nov 2018

He's still on the DOJ payroll, but he's no longer overseeing the Mueller investigation. That job now belongs to Mueller critic and White House stooge Matt Whitaker, who needs to recuse himself immediately.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
96. Nope, but this is the scenario that the organizers prepared for.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:40 PM
Nov 2018

It is basically the same thing...Mueller's investigation is in jeopardy and we must act now!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
116. I wonder how many on DU now think he's been fired.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 04:24 PM
Nov 2018

It’d be nice if posters could state things factually.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
97. Good!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 01:43 PM
Nov 2018

I am leaving my little dog at home, she would get crushed and be miserable. I took her to my first protest in Nov 2016 10 days after the election. She pooped out pretty quickly so I leave her at home for her safety. I have been to over 20 events and when I see other dogs they look hot and miserable or their owners choose to carry them the rest of the way.

LeftInTX

(25,125 posts)
100. Since Whitaker won't recuse himself, I'm going
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:42 PM
Nov 2018

Made a sign:

Trump Worse
Than Nixon
Cruz/Cornyn
Complicit!!!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
102. Exhibit A For "Why It Is A Bad Idea To Use Relative Time Words Like 'Tomorrow'"
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:52 PM
Nov 2018

According to the subject line, the protests will perpetually be "tomorrow".

They are today, not tomorrow.

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
104. Thanks, I posted it last night on several forums.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 02:58 PM
Nov 2018

I just updated it for TONIGHT! My 3 neighbors are going and I have been getting tons of gmails...This is going to be big.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
106. ...which means it will be wrong tomorrow
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:02 PM
Nov 2018

And, yes, I'm going to the one near me tonight - November 8 - which is yesterday's tomorrow and tomorrow's yesterday.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
111. Yes I'm marching!
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:19 PM
Nov 2018

For those of you that seem to believe we are not in a constitutional crisis yet:

trump despised Sessions for recusing from Russian investigation, considered him "not loyal"
trump appt. Whittaker who has made known his disdain for Mueller investigation
trump has put Whittaker in charge of Mueller investigation

Do you really not see the forest for the trees?

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
113. We have been in a crisis for months a few of the
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:28 PM
Nov 2018

presidential historians have been saying. This IS bigger than Watergate.

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