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no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:13 AM Nov 2018

IMO it's a matter of time before major insurance carriers will require public places

(e.g., schools, restaurants, bars, places of worship, municipal buildings) to hire trained and certified armed guards. Otherwise they won't issue liability policies.

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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
2. I don't think that will happen
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:18 AM
Nov 2018

Since shootings usually don't impact insurance companies' liability. And if they did start requiring armed guards, they would also have to pay out to victims of shootings that occurred where there were armed guards who weren't negligent in their duties. It wouldn't be worth it - they'd be paying through the nose.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
3. Wasn't the armed guard in the latest shooting killed?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:23 AM
Nov 2018

I don't recall armed guards preventing any killings. In FL the guard ran.

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
4. Insurance carriers seem to want their policyholders to take measures to prevent risk.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:31 AM
Nov 2018

The whole point of insurance companies is to avoid paying out to the injured and the dead.

My point is that the carriers will eventually sign off on requiring even the appearance of safety measures due to the mounting incidents of mass shooters in public places. It's a Risk/Benefit Ratio thing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. A trained and experienced police officer was killed. Was one year from retirement.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:54 AM
Nov 2018

Truly sad.

Lots of shooters case their targets before the assault. If armed guards are there, they will likely be the first dead.

Maybe we should try getting weapons of war out of the hands of anyone that want them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. Ok, then how do those armed people get insurance?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:50 AM
Nov 2018

Maybe we should try limiting access to guns that can kill or maim 20 people in less than a minute. As an engineer, I always start with the problem first instead of looking for workarounds.

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