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Chump was at 44/55 approve/disapprove in exit polls (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 OP
and remember NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #1
And... Johnny2X2X Nov 2018 #2
My problem: Who the fuck are those 44%?? nt albacore Nov 2018 #3
people that are ok with racism NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #4
Racism...misogyny... corruption... albacore Nov 2018 #5
I can lay it out D_Master81 Nov 2018 #6
If he remains in this approval range Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #7
He will definitely be running in a year with 1-2% GDP growth, if not a recession. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2018 #9
A recession is also likely Quixote1818 Nov 2018 #8

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
1. and remember
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:55 AM
Nov 2018

2016 was a razor-thin "win" for Trump - 77,000 or 78,000 votes in three states in total. (MI, WI and PA)

if just 1% of Trump's votes flipped, it would have meant Clinton won those 3 states plus Florida.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
2. And...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:00 AM
Nov 2018

MI, WI, and PA now have Dem Governors. That makes a big difference.

The Dems have the House now, what that means is they can defend the country from more insane Trump policies being passed, they can try to negotiate some spending bills, but mostly they will be playing defense. And the 2nd thing they will be doing is investigation all of the hundreds of Trump scandals.

It's always politics, that's unfortunate, but that's reality. Dems need to use their new House control to parlay massive gains and a White House takeover in 2020.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
5. Racism...misogyny... corruption...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:17 AM
Nov 2018

And that's the problem. A damn large portion of the population in this country is down with that.

How do we ever have any kind of reconciliation? How do we compromise with people who are told by god that abortion is murder, and who think trump is a role model for their children, and who think Obama is a Muslim?

How do we ever "kiss and make up"?

Maybe we get a divorce.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
6. I can lay it out
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:19 AM
Nov 2018

Probably 80% of those people are dyed in the wool Republicans that see his policies as what they want and have swallowed the GOP propaganda for decades and believe his fighting everyday with people as a good thing. Then there’s the rest that think the economy is good and that’s all they care about.
I think racism plays a part for some but less than half easily. Many Republicans see politics like a sport and just want to win over liberals, damn the consequences and right now they see trump as winning.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
7. If he remains in this approval range
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 03:35 PM
Nov 2018

That is the assumption that has not held up. Last year at this time he was 37-38 and assertions were that he would remain there. I insisted that would not be the case, that he could remain the same and be gradually accepted.

IMO, one year from now this 42-44 range will be considerably below where Trump stands.

Incumbency combined with cult has enormous advantage. I am not going to follow 2020 presidential at all, just like I didn't waste time and follow one day of 1984 with Reagan. I may have been very young but I knew it was impossible to defeat Reagan, given the obsession that Republicans had with him. This is different given the gender gap but I still believe the foundational aspect of incumbent with his party in power only one term is so powerful it will push Trump over the top, no matter how much of a slime he is.

Maybe I'll revisit in a year. Tanking economy would help, like late 1991 into 1992.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. He will definitely be running in a year with 1-2% GDP growth, if not a recession.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:26 PM
Nov 2018

The effects of the tax cut are already petering out. Q2 18 GDP growth of 4.2% will likely be his economic high mark. His party wasn't supposed to lose 37 House seats, 7 governor seats, and 367 state legislative seats in a good economic environment. How will he and them fare in a worse economic environment?

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