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Cattledog

(5,897 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:07 AM Nov 2018

Thousand Oaks shooter identified

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)



David Ian Long has been identified as the suspect in the mass shooting at a California nightclub, ABC News reports, citing law enforcement officials briefed on the probe. Neighbors told ABC News that he went by his middle name.

The shooting happened late Wednesday inside Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks. At least a dozen people were killed, including a sheriff's sergeant, Ron Helus. None of the other victims have been identified.

Earlier Thursday morning, authorities said the gunman was found dead inside the nightclub. The motive is not clear and is under investigation, the law enforcement sources said.

The suspect was a white man in his late twenties, according to ABC News. The Associated Press reported that he was 29.

https://abc11.com/thousand-oaks-shooting-suspect-what-we-know/4645948/
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Thousand Oaks shooter identified (Original Post) Cattledog Nov 2018 OP
Another radical incel? ck4829 Nov 2018 #1
No.. Armymedic88 Nov 2018 #2
And possibly a racist or right wing nut. Neither you or I know yet. Nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #3
Like I said.. Armymedic88 Nov 2018 #4
Well, we do know he was able to legally buy guns! FSogol Nov 2018 #5
True! Thanks NRA! Nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #9
Many vets have PTSD mainer Nov 2018 #6
Thank you! Nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #7
As someone who spends a lot of time in treatment Armymedic88 Nov 2018 #8
Your anecdotal experience does not address the premise you responded to LanternWaste Nov 2018 #11
Anecdotal eh? Armymedic88 Nov 2018 #13
"Falling Down". Angry at the world because things weren't working out as he planned. haele Nov 2018 #10
Or he just had serious untreated mental trauma from War/Combat ... mr_lebowski Nov 2018 #12
But just yesterday Trump told us about all the great stuff he was doing for Vets!? hexola Nov 2018 #14
 

Armymedic88

(251 posts)
8. As someone who spends a lot of time in treatment
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:19 AM
Nov 2018

For my ptsd there isn't a typical case. Trust me as someone who spent 8 days in ICU from a legit suicide attempt.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. Your anecdotal experience does not address the premise you responded to
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:21 AM
Nov 2018

It does however, address an argument no one has made.

haele

(12,581 posts)
10. "Falling Down". Angry at the world because things weren't working out as he planned.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:20 AM
Nov 2018

For whatever reason, he wasn't getting what he thought was his due, and he wanted others to hurt the way he hurt, to know what he felt.
He wanted to stop the hurting. But he also wanted people to pay for his hurt.

I've known people like that over the years. Both in the military and out.

On edit - PTSD is only a contributing factor to this. It isn't the only factor.

Haele

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. Or he just had serious untreated mental trauma from War/Combat ...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:23 AM
Nov 2018

I say lets wait and see what shakes out about the guy before we decide motives, if they're even determinable.

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
14. But just yesterday Trump told us about all the great stuff he was doing for Vets!?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:25 AM
Nov 2018
I’ve done more for the vets than any President has done, certainly in many, many decades, with Choice and with other things, as you know. With other things.

But our vets are doing better than they’ve ever done. But if you look at Choice — Choice alone — I mean, just take a look at what we’ve done with Choice. But the people of our country are very happy with the job that I’m doing.


https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/transcript-trump-raucous-press-conference-midterm-election/
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