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bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:08 AM Nov 2018

California Bar shooter identified as 29 year old white male Ian Long

Ian Long: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
By Jessica McBride
Updated Nov 8, 2018 at 10:04am

BREAKING: Calif. bar mass shooting suspect identified as Ian Long, 29, several law enforcement officials tell @NBCNews – @PeteWilliamsNBC,” MSNBC reported. According to ABC News, the suspect’s full name is David Ian Long, but he went by his middle name and was known as Ian Long.

The 29-year-old white male from California died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the scene. According to NBC News, the shooter drove his mother’s vehicle to the bar. Police said the gunman was “heavily tattooed,” but did not provide details about the tattoos, which were used to identify him along with fingerprints, NBC News reports.

According to ABC News, “Law enforcement say the shooter is a white man in his late 20s who lived in the area. The weapon was a 45 caliber Glock and was legally obtained.” He was described by the Los Angeles Times as wearing a “black shirt, black hat and black glasses.”

https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/ian-long/

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California Bar shooter identified as 29 year old white male Ian Long (Original Post) bronxiteforever Nov 2018 OP
When are white men going to face the reality zipplewrath Nov 2018 #1
True. Update he was a Marine Corps veteran bronxiteforever Nov 2018 #2
What is causing young white males in our society to snap at unprecedented rates? Calculating Nov 2018 #3
Also Cheeto is definitely responsible. He whole demeanor is bronxiteforever Nov 2018 #4
Unique to white males? zipplewrath Nov 2018 #5
It's not that they 'only' effect white males, but white males are taking this course of action. Calculating Nov 2018 #7
As a member of the White Community Bettie Nov 2018 #6
I started to say it's easy access to guns but others have that same access. brush Nov 2018 #8
Honestly, it is that white males Bettie Nov 2018 #9

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. When are white men going to face the reality
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:24 AM
Nov 2018

I'm only half joking here. We hear all the time about how African Americans need to discuss black on black violence. We hear about the need for the Muslim community to confront radical extremism. Heck, we heard endlessly about the need to use the expression "radical Islamic terrorism. Let's get real here. An amazing amount of these shooters are white as a sheet. They're all male. There's a problem sitting right in front of us and no one will "speak its name".

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
2. True. Update he was a Marine Corps veteran
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:28 AM
Nov 2018

With a modified firearm. Cheeto has opened the faucet and let all this poison out and the GOP colluded with him to do this.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
3. What is causing young white males in our society to snap at unprecedented rates?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:32 AM
Nov 2018

Find the answer to this, and you'll understand why we're seeing so many of these shootings. Personally I think it's a combination of various factors in our society right now. They're under a large amount of pressure due to a variety of factors, and they're also inspired to copy the other mass shooters. It's become the 'popular' thing to do now if you think society has screwed you over.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
4. Also Cheeto is definitely responsible. He whole demeanor is
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:36 AM
Nov 2018

Anger and hatred. He enables the poison to hatch out and it is a virus unleashed and unrestrained.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
5. Unique to white males?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:37 AM
Nov 2018

It's hard to identify societal factors that ONLY affect white males. About the only one I can really identify is the loss of privilege.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
7. It's not that they 'only' effect white males, but white males are taking this course of action.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:40 AM
Nov 2018

Perhaps young men in other races/cultures deal with this stuff differently by simply committing suicide or something.

Bettie

(16,076 posts)
6. As a member of the White Community
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:38 AM
Nov 2018

I'd like to say that we need to fucking get a handle on why there is so much violence inherent in white male culture.

brush

(53,743 posts)
8. I started to say it's easy access to guns but others have that same access.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:22 PM
Nov 2018

Don Lemon of CNN got flack last week for stating simply that the greatest terrorist threat we face in this country is white males.

We are doomed to the normalization of these mass shooting until we figure this out.

Let's start with loosening the NRA's death grip on the repug party and proceed from there.

Bettie

(16,076 posts)
9. Honestly, it is that white males
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:30 PM
Nov 2018

really do believe that they are entitled to do whatever they please.

When they don't get what they want, many become violent.

I've seen this in my own extended family. This is just another facet of their adoration of AgentOrange.

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