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bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:22 AM Nov 2018

Update shooter was a Marine Corps Veteran with recent mental health evaluation

David Ian Long was a former Marine.

“Long served as a veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps” and “underwent a mental health evaluation last year. Gunman’s wepaon was modified,” reported CBS News reporter David Begnaud.

A witness told KABC-TV that the gunman entered the bar and threw a smoke grenade before opening fire. The witness told the news station he saw a security guard get shot before the witness ran away from the shooting.


https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/ian-long/

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Update shooter was a Marine Corps Veteran with recent mental health evaluation (Original Post) bronxiteforever Nov 2018 OP
I don't know what to say anymore. How can we not do better to stop these sort of things? Glimmer of Hope Nov 2018 #1
Endless gun violence is now the inheritance of citizenship. bronxiteforever Nov 2018 #2
Too many guns in too many hands inwiththenew Nov 2018 #4
No way to stop a lone nut from doing this. Most shooters obtain gun legally. Nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #7
You mean he wasn't in the caravan? GWC58 Nov 2018 #3
Terrible Johnny2X2X Nov 2018 #5
Just some perspective DVRacer Nov 2018 #6

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
4. Too many guns in too many hands
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:47 AM
Nov 2018

There are way too many guns in private circulation. Even if you are able to get the low hanging fruit of AR-15 type assault rifles you will still have incidents like this where the guy uses a handgun or shotgun. Short of outlawing and confiscating every privately owned firearm you can't stop these for the time being.

Now legislation can be enacted that can help to reduce the frequency and amount of deaths but we are going to be dealing with this for decades. This is assuming the the Supreme Court doesn't dynamite gun control legislation.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
3. You mean he wasn't in the caravan?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 11:38 AM
Nov 2018

Okay, I’m being sarcastic. Hey FOX, not middle eastern, you dumbfux! 👿

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
5. Terrible
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:04 PM
Nov 2018

Something that is lost in these endless wars is how many damaged soldiers there are back in society. We've been at war going on 20 years now.

The men and women returning are too often not treated for their mental issues, and sure as shit no one is going to tell a soldier that they can't have a firearm.

This man should not have had access to guns.

DVRacer

(707 posts)
6. Just some perspective
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 12:34 PM
Nov 2018

I went to a squadron reunion this year on base. What struck me as I spoke with the young sailors was what their world view is. Most of them were 1-3 years old when September 11th happened and have never known peace time. Think about that these (hate to say kids because it shows my age) grew up in a world that has always had the U.S. in a shooting war. All there formative years watching news stories of casualties and firefights and yes video games the most popular like Call of Duty. They are “The Way of The Gun” generation they see violence as normal. I don’t hide the fact I own many firearms but I don’t think I look at them the same way the younger ones do. Most wars in our history have been 0-5 years with generally peace afterward and an understanding how devastatingly horrific war is. I’m kinda rambling about my thoughts but I really worry what are the consequences of a war that spans so many years? I may make this it’s own subject for discussion that I’d like to hear others thoughts on.

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