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riversedge

(69,731 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 05:41 PM Nov 2018

Alabama passed a bill stating if Roe v. Wade is overturned, all abortion care is banned and it would

I so fear what will happen in the SC when a case comes to them---and it will. It is just a matter of time.




Ally Maynard
?Verified account @missmayn

Alabama passed a bill stating if Roe v. Wade is overturned, all abortion care is banned and it would allow the state to prosecute women for using IUDs, emergency contraception and IVF or even for missing prenatal care appointments or not being able to leave an abusive partner.








Ally Maynard
?Verified account @missmayn
Nov 7

Alabama ranks 46th out of 50 states in Healthcare, 47th in Education and 48th in Opportunity.








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Alabama passed a bill stating if Roe v. Wade is overturned, all abortion care is banned and it would (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2018 OP
It will be like it was when I was in high school, rich girls would go to Chicago for a "trip" redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #1
Four states -- Mississippi, Louisiana, North Dakota and South Dakota workinclasszero Nov 2018 #2
Prosecute for use of IUDs? Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #3
yeah it's a non-legal person qazplm135 Nov 2018 #6
Yeah, the missing appointment thing is also ridiculous Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #7
iuds and plan b? geesh questionseverything Nov 2018 #4
Yeah I don't think so qazplm135 Nov 2018 #5

redstatebluegirl

(12,264 posts)
1. It will be like it was when I was in high school, rich girls would go to Chicago for a "trip"
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nov 2018

and poor girls died from a butcher. Rich girls always got their abortion in a clean clinic after hours, poor girls, not so much. If they bled to death or died from an infection no big deal. We CANNOT GO BACK!!!!!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. Four states -- Mississippi, Louisiana, North Dakota and South Dakota
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018
Trigger laws

Four states — Mississippi, Louisiana, North Dakota and South Dakota — are already prepared with trigger laws that will automatically ban abortion if Roe v. Wade is overturned.

The four laws, each of which make performing or prescribing an abortion a felony, were passed between 2005 and 2007. Louisiana’s law, for instance, would punish anyone who performs or aides in an abortion with up to 10 years in prison and a maximum $100,000 fine.


https://mic.com/articles/190095/these-states-have-trigger-laws-banning-abortion-on-the-books-in-case-roe-v-wade-is-overturned#.4FtBAOaKI

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
3. Prosecute for use of IUDs?
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:12 PM
Nov 2018

Sounds ridiculous. IUDs don't cause abortions. Also, I can't see how a woman could be found liable for acts of violence committed against her by another person that in turn hurt the developing baby. That really makes no sense whatsoever. How much of that can they actually do? I think some of this is intended to rile people up. The source doesn't seem reliable to me. It's just someone's statement on twitter.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
6. yeah it's a non-legal person
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:26 PM
Nov 2018

trying to interpret a statute. As you say, it requires an actual act done with criminal intent leading to the "crime" (in this case of abortion).

IUDs and emergency contraception do not cause an abortion anymore than the pill does. So there's neither act nor intent there.

Missing an appointment could lead to a miscarriage in theory, but that's way too attenuated for criminal law.

Not leaving an abusive partner is just silliness.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
7. Yeah, the missing appointment thing is also ridiculous
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:51 PM
Nov 2018

Missing an appointment does not cause miscarriage and a miscarriage is not an abortion. A miscarriage happens on its own and the woman did nothing to cause it or at least had no intent to cause it.

What's weird about criminalizing abortion is pregnancy happens within a woman's body. It should be a woman's decision to do what she wants with her own body. People attempt suicide and as far as I know, they are not treated as criminals for trying to hurt themselves in this country. I think it is sexist because this is saying if a pregnant woman harms herself, she is a criminal. A woman can be pregnant and not know it too. If a man harms himself, he is never a criminal.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
5. Yeah I don't think so
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 06:23 PM
Nov 2018

prosecutions still require things like actus reus and criminal intent.

None of those things involve intent or even an action that could lead to an abortion.

Just because you pass a law doesn't mean you can successfully implement that law if it's ridiculous.

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