Andrew Gillum Unconcedes As Florida Governor Race Heads For Recount

[peace frog]

Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum has walked back his concession of defeat as more ballots are left to be counted.

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/11/08/andrew-gillum-unconcedes-as-florida-governor-race-heads-for-recount.html

[hlthe2b]

1. A hearty K&R!

[manor321]

2. Sweet!

Now can we get Al Gore to unconcede the 2000 race?

[diva77]

4. First I laughed at your post, but actually, I think that's a great idea!

We have so many gaping wounds in recent US history as a result of what happened in 2000 election.

[Sam3]

58. ... and we inflicted harms that have changed the course of world history (nm)

[rzemanfl]

60. Enjoy your stay. n/t

[Thrill]

3. Why did he rush to concede anyway. Should have followed Nelson's lead

[obamanut2012]

6. Agreed -- everyone at work Wednesday thought so, too

And, all were native Floridians who have seen a lot of elections down here.

[California_Republic]

17. I never see the hurry. Let the SoS count

[Pacifist Patriot]

44. He's gracious and had incomplete info.

[AlexSFCA]

57. no, he should not have rushed to concede

out of respect to his supporters and people who worked so hard on his campaign. Look what Abrams is doing in Georgia.

[dalton99a]

5. Democrats should wait at least 48 hours before conceding. What's the rush?

Your supporters want to make sure their votes are counted. Pretty sure they can wait 48 hours for you to thank them

[quakerboy]

7. I dont get the point of conceeding at all

Either you win or you lose. The result is in the votes that get counted, not in your own personal opinion of whether you did well enough or not, nor in whether you make a phone call or speach after the voting has stopped.

[Ferrets are Cool]

14. I'm with you on that

[California_Republic]

18. +1

[forgotmylogin]

16. I think it's a show of good sportsmanship.

Plus people want results, and there's always a party for both candidates, so a concession or an acceptance speech is expected at the end of the night.

I agree if the count is within 3% they should definitely hold off and give a Stacey Abrams "To be continued!" speech without conceding.

[LisaL]

20. Yes, if the race is not close it would make sense.

But when it's so close one needs to wait.

[quakerboy]

50. Its not a game

Its one thing to acknowledge that your opponent seems to have gotten more votes this time, and stating that you give up.

[The Mouth]

59. It's not legally binding, anyway

[quakerboy]

61. Yeah.. Which makes it kinda silly

Especially given how someone ends up rescinding it pretty much every election these days.

[LisaL]

19. Especially in a close race.

[onethatcares]

8. Yay, f......ing Yay

that concession stuck in my craw. Let's take it home.

[Bfd]

9. I just read this on twitter too. They were begging him not to concede when he did

Saying now the margins are so close, he still has a chance although he is still a small % behind.
He has to hang in there!

[spanone]

10. K&R...

[ffr]

11. So much for voters saying he was too liberal.

Being liberal is something to hold your head up proud about.

Being illiberal however, should be scorned.

[Awsi Dooger]

63. Liberalism is great but obviously not ideal if 46% say too liberal for Florida

We have to find some way to counteract that type of thing. Otherwise margin for error is gone. Huge difference between 37% saying DeSantis is too conservative and 46% believing Gillum was too liberal.

Republicans pushed the fear that Gillum was a socialist and Florida would turn into another Venezuela. It was rejected by Politico as false, and by anybody with a fleck of common sense as laughable, but apparently it was very effective among heavily Cuban districts of Miami, where Gillum lost 16 points compared to Hillary in 2016. That 16 points was more than enough to shift the statewide outcome.

This Miami Herald article from early September is now being spotlighted as very accurate toward what played out in those Cuban districts. In recent days I have seen references to this article all over the place on Miami sites, with some Miamians saying it was exactly what their friends were saying about Gillum and Venezuela.

Fear is reality in the Trump era:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article217956930.html

[vdogg]

12. Should've never concede in the first place.

Honestly, I'm disappointed that he gave up so quick. Abrams and Nelson never stopped fighting and Gillum just sort of rolled over. Not a good look. He needs to find his spine because there are much tougher battles ahead.

[Kind of Blue]

25. Though I was disappointed, I don't think it was a loss of spine but

good sportsmanship that I believe Dems are way too full of. I guess it's upbringing.

[Cha]

36. Yeah, that poster was way out of line talking

about Andrew Gillium needing "to find his "spine". There's got to be at least one dissing our Democratic candidates.

[Kind of Blue]

45. I can imagine the type of threats he's had to deal with, Cha.

I can't blame him at all as I can't blame State Rep. Kiah Morris of Vermont who couldn't get protection for her family after racially motivated death threats, vandalism at her home and her grounds, as well as multiple home invasions.

I don't want any more martyrs and am filled with gratitude for those who really tried and still trying. It's just heartbreaking that some dems cannot understand the spine it takes.

[Cha]

49. Exactly, Kind of Blue. Andrew Gillium

has more Courage than they'll ever know about.:candle

[Cha]

35. Oh Please. The facts on the ground changed and

he withdrew his concession. No need to talk about Andrew Gillum's lack of "spine".

He has more courage than you'll ever know about.

[Equinox Moon]

13. I think Beto should do the same thing.

This is good news!

[LisaL]

23. Beto's race is nowhere near that close.

[Amaryllis]

40. But what about the machines switching votes from Beto to Cruz the first day of early voting? Was

that ever corrected? I hope Beto had people on the ground checking out irregularities.

[LisaL]

41. You are never going to figure that out.

You can't recount a machine vote unless that machine has a paper print out.

[Amaryllis]

43. Exactly. WHich is why we need to get rid of highly hackable voting macheines.

[Honeycombe8]

15. Fingers crossed. nt

[BlancheSplanchnik]

21. Oh fingers crossed fingers crossed!

[Cha]

34. Toes Too!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

48. Yes!!!!!

🤞🏾

[Kind of Blue]

22. YAY, Dammit!

[LAS14]

24. 49.6 - 49.2 .4

I wondered why Gillum was showing as Lost in the NYT website when he was less than half a percent behind. Then somewhere I saw that the trigger in Florida was 1/4 percent. Does anyone have solid info?

[jcgoldie]

46. Not sure if this is the info you mean but...

1/4% is for a hand recount... 1/2% for a machine recount.

[LAS14]

47. Thank you! That's exactly what I need. It looks like Gillum should be....

... scheduled for a machine count. Unless there's a rounding issue.

[LAS14]

62. FINALLY!!! The NYT website has FL governor's map as pink.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-governor-elections.html

[catbyte]

26. An enthusiastic K&R!

[Hekate]

27. YES!

[mcar]

28. K&R

[Cha]

33. NOT Over!

[NutmegYankee]

29. With the voting irregularities being found, I feel he'll win on recount.

[rzemanfl]

32. The agony of 2000 is still fresh in my mind. n/t

[LisaL]

38. Hanging chads and butterfly ballots.

Wasn't that fun?

[rzemanfl]

39. The Republicans scared the Dems into not challenging military ballots.

That, to me, was the death knell for Gore.

[LisaL]

42. The image of the guy who seemed to be blind as a bat looking at hanging chads is

stuck in my mind.

[mtnsnake]

30. Something tells me Andrew Gillum is one of the most popular Democrats on DU these days.

Personally, I think he's the best thing going.

[Cha]

31. Yes, Andrew Gillium has Withdrawn his

concession as facts changed on the ground.

Thank YOu, Andrew!

[samnsara]

37. what did he do? hollar KINGS X ?

...im so happy!!!!!

[Wintryjade]

51. Yea.

[democratisphere]

52. We really have half assed voting systems in this mess of a country.

Really makes me wonder if every vote is ever counted?!

[True Blue American]

53. Hard not to laugh

At Republicans complaining about,” Hords of Democratic Lawyers descending on Florida . “after the hords that descended on Fla. in the 2000 election,including Republican Congressmen.

Remember how they stormed the BOE?

[LAS14]

54. I've been waiting for the NYT to switch FL governor from red to pink, since...

... they've got Georgia as pink. But it hasn't happened. Is Gillum's switch not official?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-governor-elections.html

[Blue_true]

55. Did he have a choice?

If, when all the vote are counted, he is ahead of DeSantis, what is he supposed to say "Give it to DeSantis because I conceded on incomplete information"?

[YOHABLO]

56. It's Florida for god's sake. You know there some dark shite going on down there.