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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTwo fucking days later and they realize it was a BLUE WAVE.
Screw off Carville and Tapper two idiots who stated over and over it wasnt a blue wave. Changing the narrative by spouting falsehoods.
Allowing trump cover through lies that he didnt have such a bad night.
Damn!!
spooky3
(34,405 posts)the Blue Wave characterization. If you get a chance to catch a rerun or online clip it is worth a look.
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)One hour ago I was talking to a political science major at Princeton and she was looking at lists of election data online. She said, essentially, that Dem enthusiasm was through the roof compared to that of the Republicans. Heres what she found (this is based on a cursory glance and deserves a proper crunching):
Republicans winning with over 70% of the vote in a Red district: 12%
Democrats receiving over 70% of the vote in a blue district: 71%
Dems had, in effect, seven times the enthusiasm.
(Again, thats based on a quick glance at the numbers.)
spooky3
(34,405 posts)our rep get re-elected by >70%, we had record % turnout for a non-Presidential year--highest since the 1960s IIRC. And I'm in VA where we elect Governors in odd years (such as 2017), so there are even more years to beat than typical. We are among the states judged "difficult" to vote in because we don't have early voting other than absentee, etc. We had a few local issues but nothing out of the ordinary, so it would have been easy to understand if people stayed home.
So I think this means, if not enthusiasm--People wanted to send a message to Trump and his enablers.
BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)Link to tweet
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TheBeat w/Ari Melber
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@TheBeatWithAri
Midterm elections were the largest gain for Democrats in 40 years.
"More than any other election, since the Democratic wave against Nixon" - @AriMelber
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6:56 PM - Nov 8, 2018
spooky3
(34,405 posts)dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Early Wednesday, I thought the Repubs would end up with 55 seats. Despite winning the House, that would have still made it a very mixed result.
Then Montana switched, now Arizona is looking good and who knows, maybe there is some chance for Florida. Having only one net loss is totally different. If that comes true, the Repubs won one seat in the Senate on a map stacked against the Dems and they lost the House. That is after they celebrated their big win.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)David__77
(23,329 posts)As I looked at that 538 odds model for the house on election night, I was quite anxious. The apparent losses in Florida coupled with loss in Indiana was something I found unsettling until more house wins came in.
zonkers
(5,865 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Nancy was right, he was wrong
I don't see him on nearly every show now
Cha
(296,846 posts)do a very good job. Just the opposite in fact.
Me.
(35,454 posts)LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Much like Sarandon... Say anything to seem relevant.
he has become one of those that likes to hear himself talk.
Cha
(296,846 posts)what he has to say.
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)Cha
(296,846 posts)agenda?!
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)We need to stick together in unity in this current hostile Trumpian environment.
Cha
(296,846 posts)his negative on Dems doc didn't do well, either.. YAY!
John Fante
(3,479 posts)can beat Trump, and since we know she's not not running, that's his roundabout way of saying Trump is a lock:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/7/michael-moore-we-will-lose-2020-cory-booker-kamala/
😡
betsuni
(25,377 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:25 PM - Edit history (1)
Has to be a "beloved American" like Michelle Obama or that Scully guy. Because Trump is "so much smarter" than we are, a genius.
I think his crystal ball is broken.
Cha
(296,846 posts)And, yet the BIG BLUE WAVE is here and he goes right on acting like it's not.
I think you're right.
ETA.. oh Sorry, I was talking about BS.. realized this was about Michael Moore.
betsuni
(25,377 posts)I'm now going out to a BLUE WAVE celebratory dinner!
Have fun.
Cha
(296,846 posts)we did! Thai curry
Me.
(35,454 posts)yeah, you can see how it was easy to do.
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)too.
Obama was a "beloved American" and a politician and he was voted in twice.
Aren't we in this mess cause people voted on a con man??? and would you go to a baker for surgery??? Makes no sense.
betsuni
(25,377 posts)It's the opposite. People will want someone who knows what they're doing.
like someone else I could name he's trying desperately to maintain his relevance
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)That has left their time behind.
So many talking points from 3 days ago look stupid now.
Largest Democratic pickup in 40 year even with gerrymandering.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)He is thrilled with the outcome and called it a Blue Wave
He is a fabulous ally. I hate seeing Dems put him down. Same with Bill Maher
hostalover
(447 posts)saw him on Laurence's show last night and he was fantastic! Positively giddy about the election results. Definitely a blue wave in his opinion! Thanks for your words!
shanny
(6,709 posts)To me it smacks of authoritarianism (generally the provenance of the Other Side) when we slam somebody who doesn't think Ds are perfect.
Cha
(296,846 posts)It was a Giant BLUE WAVE that SWEPT across our Country!
Must have had their heads up the ass when all the red seats were FLIPPING to BLUE
zonkers
(5,865 posts)notion a blue wave, even though that is what it is.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)malaise
(268,693 posts)quite early. We saw posts on DU telling us to ignore 538. Turns out they were excellent.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)It bounced all over early.
He admitted it in a blog post that early returns were impacting his algorithm.
The 538 liveblog percentages were fucking nerve wracking ... if dish network didn't have some BS dispute with HBO I probably would have flipped to a movie!
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)BluegrassDem
(1,693 posts)I was getting so down early in the evening and I just wanted to watch a movie and be done with it!
mcar
(42,278 posts)when everyone knew so many states didn't close until later in the evening. What a joke!
betsuni
(25,377 posts)Cheered me up immediately. There's an automatic negativity switch about everything to do with Democrats, I swear.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Two very difficult states for us the narrative began.
By the time we started racking up wins that narrative stuck made worse because so many people went to bed before the West came in.
But the numbers are undeniable.
SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)Wintryjade
(814 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)DLC crap, again "Dems need to run candidates in the Center - all over". NO....Dems need to run Centrist Candidates WHERE NEEDED - like Arizona, West Virginia, Montana, Alabama (Yes, Alabama), Tennessee (Next Time) and South Carolina to take out Tim Scott in 2020.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Wintryjade
(814 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,783 posts)I contend that the centrist keeps shifting left in many districts and states and the country. We need to use that to our advantage.
tandem5
(2,072 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)I'm still pissed as hell that people will have to call Marsha Blackburn senator. Goodgod, the idiocy.
SCantiGOP
(13,865 posts)His loss of 31 seats was a thumpin, while Trump calls a bigger loss a win.
c-rational
(2,588 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Is this purchase-able ? If so, where ? I want one. Hell, I'll but it on a t-shirt !
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Sorry I dont have a link but try a google search like I did and you should find it.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)Beartracks
(12,797 posts)C Moon
(12,209 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)but I believed we would take the house. I felt the energy, I knew we could do it, I just didn't want to get my hopes up.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)it IS a huge blue wave and this is bigger than when the Tea Party took over and we need to celebrate IT!
hostalover
(447 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)We WON and should be happy and relieved. The Sessions/Mueller issue made our joy short lived. The fake Perez is the most hated man in the world at this point. Thank goodness we won...if we hadn't the Mueller investigation would be history. WE WON!
hostalover
(447 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Mainly the book was based on how the Democratic Party would be in charge for the next 40 years. I saw his interview on MSNBC where he said that Beto needed to be a "winner" if he wanted to run for POTUS.
With all due respect to Mr. Carville, I thank him for his service and commitment to the party. It's time he steps aside and let the new generation take over-which means that I respectfully ask that he, along with any person in the party who's attempting to influence future strategy; step aside.
Beto demonstrated an uncanny ability to drive up numbers in RURAL areas, which is what we're going to need in the future. His "loss" which seeing how corrupt and morally bankrupt the GOP is; well let's say that I'm not sure Beto lost Texas, especially after looking at what's happening in Georgia and Florida.
Beto's "loss" was anything but, and Republicans know it.
As for someone running for POTUS after losing a Senate election, it's been done before.
1858 Abraham Lincoln lost a US Senate Election in Illinois, TWO YEARS LATER he became the 16th President of the United States!
TheRealNorth
(9,470 posts)Between 8 and 9 PM CST I was afraid this was 2016 all over again.
But then we started crushing the statewide races here in MN, took House seats MN-02 and MN-03, crushed the State House, taking 17 seats and flipping the State House https://www.minnpost.com/state-government/2018/11/where-the-dfl-made-its-gains-to-take-control-of-the-minnesota-house/
The cherry on the top was Scotty Walker going down. His presidential ambitions are down the tube. His only hope may be to latch on to someone else as a VP candidate.
zonkers
(5,865 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)into 2020, just like 2006 carried over into 2008.
Trump will be sent packing.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)Guess what, assholes, IT WAS A BLUE WAVE!
kimbutgar
(21,055 posts)Repukes can win again in 2020.