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What are the chances the Senate will end up 51-49, with no change? (Original Post) stopbush Nov 2018 OP
Yes it's possible, look like we will win AZ, FL still a long shot marylandblue Nov 2018 #1
Arizona is looking more likely. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #2
Not necessarily. Collins and Murkowski can perhaps still be swayed, even after Kavanaugh. stopbush Nov 2018 #5
Collins has always voted to confirm. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #11
Anyone that expects anything other than mealymouthed betrayal from collins... Salviati Nov 2018 #16
She is convicted by her own record. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #17
it's hard to tell FreeRunning Nov 2018 #3
I don't think likely. David__77 Nov 2018 #4
Not really Hav Nov 2018 #6
Dems winning the runoff in Mississippi would be a huge upset. Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #9
I think Sinema and Nelson will eek their races out. roamer65 Nov 2018 #7
That is what I am guessing. Blue_true Nov 2018 #14
Even if Nelson miraculously wins a recount... jcgoldie Nov 2018 #8
Zero krawhitham Nov 2018 #10
Heck, repugs in Mississippi likely could run a CONVICTED pedophile and still win. Blue_true Nov 2018 #15
Rachel at 9:15 on election night was touting Mississippi to potentially decide senate Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #20
48-52 would be astonishing given how brutal John Fante Nov 2018 #12
Yes, considering how brutal the map was, we have to take what we can get and be happy BluegrassDem Nov 2018 #18
I agree Strelnikov_ Nov 2018 #19
Small. That assumes we can win Mississippi, doubtful. Blue_true Nov 2018 #13
I'm proud of us for holdng our own despite the TOUGH (extreme empasis on TOUGH) map In It to Win It Nov 2018 #21

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Arizona is looking more likely.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:04 PM
Nov 2018

But anything less than control means the GOP will approve any Judge that Trump names.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
5. Not necessarily. Collins and Murkowski can perhaps still be swayed, even after Kavanaugh.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:09 PM
Nov 2018

If the Rs end up with 53, then, yeah, nothing can help...unless McConnell tells tRump that he has to nominate more-centrist candidates.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Collins has always voted to confirm.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:20 PM
Nov 2018

In my view, McConnell is just as bad as Trump. He is slightly and superficially more polite.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
16. Anyone that expects anything other than mealymouthed betrayal from collins...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:07 PM
Nov 2018

... is as gullible as she pretends to be.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
4. I don't think likely.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:06 PM
Nov 2018

I think 47-53 is most likely. That’s better than the 45-55 I thought would happen on election night.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
6. Not really
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:11 PM
Nov 2018

Getting to 49 would not only require a win in Florida but also winning the runoff (I think there will be one) in MS.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. That is what I am guessing.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:45 PM
Nov 2018

A net loss of 1 seat for Dems with Dems having a brutal map to contend with.

Nelson is .22 behind Scott. There is a report of major uncounted votes in Broward County, a strong Dem stronghold. My guess is with Broward being corrected and statewide mailins being counted, Nelson over take Scott. Gillum may even pass DeSantis too, given that he is down by around .35 and gaining ground every hour literally.

I think that Sinema has Arizona, uncounted votes should lean heavily toward her by >4%.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
8. Even if Nelson miraculously wins a recount...
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:13 PM
Nov 2018

How do you think we have a legit shit in Mississippi where 2 republicans combined for 57% of the vote?

I would be delighted with 52-48 at this point.

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
10. Zero
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:19 PM
Nov 2018

The have flipped 3 (ND, MO, IN)

We might will flip 2 (NV & AZ)

Maybe pull out FL

But unless the Mississippi GOP if running a Pedophile we are not taking it


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Heck, repugs in Mississippi likely could run a CONVICTED pedophile and still win.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:47 PM
Nov 2018

That is how fucked the white Christians in that state are.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
20. Rachel at 9:15 on election night was touting Mississippi to potentially decide senate
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:26 PM
Nov 2018

This was with Donnelly gone, Nelson behind, Bredesen already a disaster, and Beto losing ground at every update.

I was in hysterics. Rachel is always dependable to absolutely butcher something on election night. She was going on and on with this preposterous theme that a Mississippi runoff might decide the senate. Meanwhile the odds were literally less than 2% at that point.

Chris Matthews was much too polite in butting in and saying...Rachel, I don't think things are looking promising for that side in the senate.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
12. 48-52 would be astonishing given how brutal
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:30 PM
Nov 2018

the senate map was for us. It would also put us in good position to take the senate in 2020.

 

BluegrassDem

(1,693 posts)
18. Yes, considering how brutal the map was, we have to take what we can get and be happy
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:09 PM
Nov 2018

Can you imagine the bloodshed in the Senate if Hillary were president?

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
19. I agree
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:17 PM
Nov 2018

Only a blue wave could attain 48-52 with the headwind Dems faced in the Senate.

2018 . . . stop the offensive at Stalingrad . . . 2020 advance.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Small. That assumes we can win Mississippi, doubtful.
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 09:37 PM
Nov 2018

I am feeling that Sinema will win in Arizona. That should make it 53-48, a net loss of 1 seat for us.

In It to Win It

(8,240 posts)
21. I'm proud of us for holdng our own despite the TOUGH (extreme empasis on TOUGH) map
Thu Nov 8, 2018, 10:46 PM
Nov 2018

Assuming that the GOP is up 2 more seats just means Susan Collins lost her swing vote power. She didn't really know how to use it anyway. She had all this power and got nothing for her constituents in return. CRAZY!

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