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certainot

(9,090 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:37 AM Nov 2018

10 universities in AZ, FL, GA help GOP, Trump with voter suppression, recount obstruction

At $1000/hr the 10 unis in AZ, FL, GA, listed below endorse nearly $1/2 MIL/DAY in GOP messaging and are good places to protest Trump, Republicans, voter suppression, recount resistance, and to get Mueller’s back.

The GOP uses those radio stations to create buzz and media and generate the outrage in their base to try to intimidate and enable election officials and judges, etc.

If the GOP paid $1000/hr to sell voter suppression or fight to prevent recounts in those states, each station x 15 hrs = $15,000 x 37 stations = $555,000/DAY, FREE media.

ARIZONA 3 Arizona St. 2, Arizona 1

FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2

GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2

88 American universities endorse 260 Limbaugh stations, worth about $1BIL/yr.

Those Limbaugh stations depend on those universities and would have a lot harder time attracting advertisers if the schools were pushed to rethink their associations with those stations. The local GOP would freak out merely at the suggestion of such a discussion starting. That’s what protests would do. Media would cover it, and they would immediately feel the threat of the possibility of advertisers fleeing.

Protesting those universities is a direct threat to local/state GOP advertising and messaging and a unique and different way Democrats in those states can go on the offensive in defense of their candidates.

For example, the Republican blowhards on the state-loud Limbaugh station in NM, KKOB, are using the 1PM MT 11/8/18 show after Limbaugh to suggest along with callers that Xochitl Torres Small, the Dem winner of the NM 2nd district congressional seat, is illegitimate because there were 8000 ballots found at the last minute, they were made up by the Dem clerk in the Dona Ana county, they were found in a car, etc.

And there’s a suggestion that ‘there’s a rumor’ that the Republican candidate Yvette Herrell thinks the election was stolen from her and the talkers suggest maybe she, her lawyers, or the NM GOP should make a case out of it. Yvette Herrell was one of at least 14 Republican state candidates who got free friendly interview time on KKOB recently. Steve Pierce, who gave up that seat and lost the governors race was a regular on the station.

And so on.

That GOP messaging reaches 10s of thousands of people in NM. That’s the Trump base as well as many just trying to get some weather and traffic etc. Just because it’s the clearest, loudest signal in the state.

Even if there is nothing there a couple of Republican jerks with a big megaphone, who claim global warming is a hoax, are using public airwaves and rumors and the UNM Lobos to delegitimize Torres Small, the new congresswoman for the 2nd District of NM.

UNM is a good place to protest, too.

That’s the kind of stuff coming out of Republican radio stations all over the states where recounts are going on or need to be. Unlike Fox TV all that can be locally coordinated and RW talk radio has been shown to use paid callers.

Those stations are used by GOP and its think tanks to blast out anything they want to make up. They can direct that outrage to individuals or groups who are particularly troublesome.

They learned that it worked great back in 2000 in Florida when it comes to elections. Those radio stations played a big part in selling the pretext for electronic voting machines (made by Republicans) to save money, time, and eliminate chads, etc. And for the better part of 20 years they're been very successful selling the pretext for voter ID and other forms of voter suppression - to keep invading 'illegal' aliens from voting for Democrats.

In NM KKOB broadcasts sports for the University of NM Lobos even though everything the station does is antithetical to the interests of the university, faculty, and students.

The 88 universities endorsing/supporting 260 Limbaugh stations need to be asked if they would still broadcast on those stations if the KKK bought them.


Artificial intelligence will force ad industry to kill RW radio. Dems can accelerate the inevitable.

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watoos

(7,142 posts)
1. My gawd
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:39 AM
Nov 2018

no wonder we have so many mass murders if that many people are listening to Rush Limbaugh. How can anyone live every day listening to all of that hate?

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
2. When you own the physical station you control what programming is run on it
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:51 AM
Nov 2018

Liberals/Progressives MUST BUY BUNDLES OF STATIONS (radio and YES AM RADIO, TV, cable), create the programming (like Air America-style) and RUN IT 24/7. And be prepared to do this for decades without "turning a profit". Don't consider putting FACTS out to the public as a "profitable business". Consider it a "donation". Long term it will be cheaper than being forced to raise millions of dollars each election season in order to run one-off commercials for liberal/progressive candidates and/or issues, and then the subject is dropped when the election is over and summarily forgotten.

The discussion of liberal/progressive agenda should be an "infomercial" itself, where the "info" is FACT.

I pay yearly to listen to liberal/progressive programming on SiriusXM (am listening to Joe Madison right now) and this type of info SHOULD BE "FREE" (terrestrial radio).

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
5. Murdoch will never sell that
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:24 AM
Nov 2018

He literally gave up everything else "Fox" but kept that (and Fox Business and Fox Sports) this past year.

We can overwhelm them with bundles of stations that might be discarded by the big RW station owners like "IHeartRadio" (formerly Clear Channel), Cumulus (formed as Citadel + ABC Radio + Westwood One merger w/Cumulus), and Entercom (includes the old Infinity, CBS Radio, Westinghouse broadcasting).

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
15. They were doing day-to-day running of it
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:29 AM
Nov 2018

(at least one specifically shoved over to the Wall Street Journal back when all that mess was happening with his UK tabloids and phone hacking of MPs and celebrities) but he still owned it.

He sold 20th/21st Century Fox (bought by Disney) and Sky (bought by Comcast) and some other things in his empire.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
14. artificial intelligence will force ad industry to kill RW radio and democratize talk radio
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:16 AM
Nov 2018

as soon as they are informed -

i don't think those ad agencies will want to keep pushing advertisers onto rw radio like they do when they find out how easy and cheap it is now to record that crap and associate advertisers directly with it.

the planet will boil from their global warming denial before liberal billionaires buy up enough stations - we just need to use the 'market forces' they love to depend on

and talk radio has been the major impediment to media reform, pushing against net neutrality lately the exact same lies used to push media deregulation in the 90s - "deregulation will lower costs, net neutrality/regulation is a way for big 'liberal' govt to control your internet, etc.

and passing a new fairness doctrine is hard if so many liberals fall for the lie that a 20-1 rw radio monopoly is just free speech and market demand

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
10. We can thank Reagan for this situation. Repeal of the Fairness Doctrine and multiple ownership.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:53 AM
Nov 2018

In reality it is little different than the control of the dictators of the media in Russia, China, and a growing number of number of European countries such as Hungry, Poland, Romania, Turkey, etc. that have fallen into the control of right wing extremist regimes. It is disturbing to hear people accept the nonsense that there is no difference between the progressives and conservative. The conservatives are all about control and despise the progressives unacceptance of dogmatic control. The difference is as dramatic as between truth and lies. Conservatives demand unwavering simplistic dogma and see freedom of thought as a chaotic ramblings rather than an unending search for truth and greater understanding.

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
16. THIS
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:34 AM
Nov 2018
Conservatives demand unwavering simplistic dogma and see freedom of thought as a chaotic ramblings rather than an unending search for truth and greater understanding.


Sums it up very clearly!
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
17. psych studies like "political conservatism as motivated social cognition" by
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018
jost et al confirm that the main defining characteristic is conservatives/authoritarians aversion to uncertainty - so they are drawn to leaders with royal certitude who can help them judge the world in absolutes - black and white/right and wrong, and bring order, and belief systems that make judgement easy, to help them reduce the uncertainty and unpredictability - and their stress and fear

this may be the problem:

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groundloop

(11,518 posts)
3. What the hell is this article talking about??????
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:13 AM
Nov 2018

Since my alma mater is on that list I've taken a bit of interest in this, and can't for the life of me figure out exactly what they're supposedly doing to support right wingers. All I can think of is the possibility that their football games are being carried on the offending stations, but the linked article doesn't mention that.

Beyond that, 'helping trump with voter suppression' sounds like a hell of a stretch. HOW is my university helping Tiny with voter suppression? It never actually explains that. I'm quite certain that the one and only university radio station isn't broadcasting right wing propaganda, it's just your typical college radio station which plays an eclectic mix of music as well as broadcasts the games of a few sports other than football (baseball, women's basketball, and softball mostly).

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
6. The OP is not about the college stations
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:29 AM
Nov 2018

it's about the RW-owned commercial stations that BROADCAST college games, and because they do, they can attract regular listeners, who may stay with that commercial station and get fed all sorts of RW nonsense.

I listen to a tiny RW loon station out of VA via podcast just to hear a garden show I like ("In the Garden with Andre Viette" ). It's this sort of thing that makes my blood boil that I have to go there to get it (and all the little stations that air that syndicated program are RW and I know the show's hosts are completely apolitical).

brush

(53,764 posts)
8. Agreed the article, especially the headline is bullshit.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:10 AM
Nov 2018

My university, the U of A, is in Tucson, the blue part of AZ (and what helps make that part of a red state blue), so the broad brushing done by the OP is ridiculous.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
11. it's pretty basic
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:55 AM
Nov 2018

at least 88 universities broadcast sports on more than 260 rw stations that headline limbaugh

that association gives them community cred and helps them attract advertising.

many of those associations go back decades but after reagan killed the fairness doctrine in 87 the cons bought up a lot of those stations. now they may as well have been bought up by the NRA and the KKK. they're making excuses for trump kidnapping kids, lying about diseased thug caravans, treasonous kneeling athletes, guns don't kill people, etc.

in the eg above from NM the two dolts even suggested obama should be in jail and when a caller politely suggested they were twits the main talker declared he had the guy's phone number and maybe should expect a call back.

that same guy said this a couple of years ago when they were attack liberals for their sanctuary cities

Have you ever seen the “Purge” movies or whatever they are?” “Some people may say hey maybe that’s not a bad idea. You watch one of those movies, okay? For like 12 hrs you’re allowed to kill whoever you want..... commit whatever crime...


so 30 years ago those stations were bought up to sell racism, war, global warming denial, media monopolization (deregulation will lower costs! etc), money in politics (money is speech, corporations are people, etc), and create made to order pro-corporate constituencies to kill single payer and whatever other major reforms americans want.

go to one of the stations your alma mater broadcasts on and listen to some limbaugh and the others on there who parrot him and hear them attack mueller and make excuses for trump while waving your school's banners.

here's some limbaugh from a couple of weeks before the florida magabomber 10/9/18. he was living in his van. what was he listening to in between florida football games?

once again, what should the school do if the KKK bought the station? ignore it?

the left is out of control

designed to totally wipe out and erase any traces of the actual founding of this country the principles and the reasons behind it.

all out assault on the entire concept of America as founded.

Illegal immigrants and criminals in general are partners in the struggle

We're up against it, battling people who do not want us to exist.

Their interest is the elimination of opposition. However it can happen.

They have no limits on how long they will go on, how depraved and perverted they will be in seeking their reality

Soviet influence with communist influence.

Our existence is not legitimate and not even worthy of discussion or knowledge.

They don't accept the founding of the country the principles in our founding documents they accept none of that.

They were literally clawing at the doors (of the Supreme Court). There wasn't any humanity in this. This was just raw hatred and fear. Coupled with massive psych disorders all of that promoted not denounced all of it promoted and encouraged by the powers that be in the media and the Democrat Party and the citadels of the left.

This is the result of two generations of college education that campus and the the corruption and the perversion there has become mainstreamed in American pop culture. It's not on the fringes. (Ironically, more than 260 of the Limbaugh stations depend on at least 88 major universities to continue to broadcast sports on them, even as they attack science, students, ‘liberal’ universities, and African American athletes.)

I will grant that among some of these protesters bussed in that there's a lot of acting and they're reciting scripts that they've memorized.

If you don't share the values of Christine “Ballsey” Ford and the Senate Democrats on the committee then you don't get any presumption of innocence you don't get any benefit of the doubt.

what are decent people to do in response to these people?
They have as an objective a ruined nation and total human destruction of their opponents. That's us. Do not doubt me on this.

That is their objective. Total destruction and ruination.

If they are willing to do anything including defacto career and life political murder to stop things they don't want to stop people that they don't want (Kavanaugh), how do you how do you oppose that? How do you beat that back…..

If they are willing to do anything including defacto career and life political murder to stop things they don't want to stop people that they don't want, how do you how do you oppose that?

How do you beat that back?

Do you do it with decency? You can do it with politeness. You do it with manners. I'm sorry... ain't going to cut it.

Sorry never Trumpers but the right manners and comportment and so forth isn't going to cut it.

we're very lucky we have somebody willing to push back against that from the highest levels of power in the country.
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
13. that's $150 or so per year. rw talk radio is free and ubiquitous in 40 states w/senators
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 11:01 AM
Nov 2018

and endorsed by a lot of universities and pro sports teams and supported by a lot of local and national advertisers who would probably drop those stations with very little pressure

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