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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2018, 06:58 PM - Edit history (3)
What the fuck. I'm watching Chris Cuomo on CNN last night and he says "You've got to give the President credit. He won every Senate seat where he campaigned" Are you fucking kidding me? Does he pay attention?
Let's go through the list. There was not a single Republican victory in a blue state, even though Trump-like candidates were running. In California, the Republicans couldn't even nominate one. Conn., Del., Hi., Mass., Md. NJ, NM., NY, RI., VT. and Wash all ended up as huge Democratic wins.
Now, let's look at the solid Red states: The Republican won in Ind., Miss, but the Miss special is still up for grabs in a run-off., Missouri, Nebraska, ND., Tenn., Texas, Utah and Wyoming. Big fucking deal. Utah is far from a Trump Republican and Ruby Red Texas was a nail bitter. He lost two Red States in West Virginia (he went there at least 3 times) and Montana (he went there 4 times).
So, Trump lost 2 of 12 in solid Red States, some close (including 2 states he went to often) and went 0 for 12 in Blue states that were never in doubt for Democrats.
Now, the swing states: Trump's guy got slaughtered in Maine, Michigan (Trump went there a few times), 2 seats in Minnesota (Trump visited there a couple of times), lost in Nevada (Trump was there often), Trump's guy got slaughtered in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisc (all states Trump visited numerous times). We are still waiting on the results in Arizona and Florida, both he went to often. So, Trump lost 9 swing states and is losing in another and they're still counting in the only swing state he's leading in, out of 11.
So let's go over the real record. Trump lost 2 Red States, won no Blue states and lost at least 9 (and probably 10) of 11 swing states.
I'd say Trump got Thumped in the Senate. That's far more accurate than Chris Cuomo's assertion that "Trump won Senate seats everywhere he went"
underpants
(182,766 posts)Bookmarking
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)they are not our friend.. just because faux news is a REAL enemy of the ppl.. doesn't make the others any less profit & corporate interest driven..
louis c
(8,652 posts)...but paying attention takes work, and the vast majority of voters just don't have that time.
That's why I post here and read them. Hopefully real facts come out in the posts by a lot of DUers.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)sorry if uit came off that way - just a general statement. I agree with your post completely and am glad someone is able to call them out.. cause I limit my consumption of their coverage as much as I can
louis c
(8,652 posts)...But, believe it or not, part of my regular, paid job is to be on this site. I handle political research and organizing for a very big union. As a result, I have all the time I need to do the kind of research necessary to stay informed. I realize how lucky I am and that few others have that kind of time to devote.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)Nevada and Arizona were two states where he was asked not to campaign since it would hurt the R candidates, and they both lost (or are losing) and those were the only two red Senate seats to flip.
As your OP points out, he did overlook that some blue states where Trump campaigned did not flip. And he tried as hard to flip Mont and WV as anywhere and failed.
Overall he won less than 1/3 of his Twitter endorsements.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)And Im very glad you do. DU can piss me off a lot, but I check in every day and I still find something of value to follow up on.
Cha
(297,137 posts)Why is Chris Cuomo gaslighting.. trying to put us in the Twilight Zone?
Thanks for your OP, Louis! Cuomo needs to be held accountable for that.. those who watch his show should tweet and email
Zambero
(8,964 posts)despite 4 rally visits from Trump.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)They couldn't run for re-election in a Presidential Election year and neither Donnelly nor McCaskill had self-destructive Republican candidates with a rape problem to capitalize on like they did in 2012. Donnelly's loss hurt all the more because he was THE LAST statewide Democratic officeholder here in Indiana. I can't believe that voter suppression of native Americans didn't hurt Heitkamp in Nebraska in the final analysis.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I think mainly because of the governor's races in Ohio and Iowa where the Republican candidates trailed in the polls going into the election.
Never mind that Democrats flipped 7 governorships (including in heavily red Kansas) and held on in Connecticut despite a ton of outside money supporting the Republican.
louis c
(8,652 posts)former9thward
(31,974 posts)Incumbent Senators lost Tuesday and that is why Cuomo's comments were made and were essentially correct. Since 1900 the party in power has only won Senate seats 3 times in the first mid term -- and 2 of those were in the early 1900s.
louis c
(8,652 posts)You can't win seats where none exist. If it was Johnson running in Wisconsin, Toomey in Pennsylvania or any number of Republicans in Blue states. There was not a single Republican Senator up for re-election from a blue state in this cycle (Nevada is Purple). If there was, he or she would have been slaughtered as evidenced that the Rebukes lost at least 9 of 11 Purple state senate races.
The map favored Trump, and that's why there was a net gain, even though the Repukes lost two thirds of the seats that were up.
The Democrats have won at least 22 seats. If we can duplicate that in the next 2 cycles, we'll have a veto proof majority.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2018, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)
....the great Mario Cuoma, has been rolling in his grave over his son for quite a while here in NY.
louis c
(8,652 posts)...this bull shit of trying to be so objective, as to give credibility to the Trump lies and false narratives, makes me sick.
worked with the Repugs in a way he didn't need to in Albany, really hurting ordinary people against developers in NYC.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)Fixed it!
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)He's starting to become almost unbearable to watch anymore.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Don't people know by now that Trump lies about everything?
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)This was at 9:15 PM on election night, when our senate chances were less than 2%. Rachel somehow was ignoring that Donnelly already had no chance, Nelson was losing, Bredesen was buried, and Beto was losing ground with every update.
Rachel not only mentioned the possibility of Mississippi special election tipping the balance, but in her typical fashion she continued to repeat the theme.
Finally Chris Matthews reluctantly broke in...uh, Rachel, I don't think the senate looks so good for that side.
I'll continue to stick with Chris Cuomo at 9 PM. He does a great job
louis c
(8,652 posts)The Democrats won two thirds of the Senate seats up for grabs in 2018.
GregGilman
(12 posts)Chris Cuomo isn't interested in promoting fairness or truth. Instead, he's trying to crown himself the ultimate centrist -- no matter how extreme one party moves. In Chris Cuomo world the GOP and Democratic party are always equally at fault. Always.
It's a ridiculous position given the right's ever rightward shift (thank you Fox News/Limbaugh/InfoWars...). But acknowledging what's painfully obvious would ruin Cuomo's self-appointed throne, so he continually spews bothsideisms as if proven fact (it's not). Cuomo should be ignored.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Like his would have worked. But they have no beliefs system anymore...so you are just giving them a forum to spew bullshit trump propaganda.
That said, Cuomo ( and others for that matter) is intellectually lazy.
still_one
(92,131 posts)In It to Win It
(8,236 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)In his attempts to be even handed he looks foolish
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Was the ONLY Show to Give Rapid John James (who ran against Our Senior U.S. Senator Debbie Stabenow and LOST) a moment of attention outside of Faux News -- WHEN EVERY POLL IN MICHIGAN HAD James down by 5-7 Points. James rightfully lost by 6 points.
Says EVERYTHING ANYONE needs to know about Chris Cuomo.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)Keep sending him messages over and over
It may eventually sink in
Nitram
(22,791 posts)It's the only strategy they know, and it's not working for them.