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Why is it that Dems need to "Reach out" to the kGOPb, but "elections have consequences" (Original Post) Baltimike Nov 2018 OP
Where are you going with this? Trump hates the media, so we should too? nt Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #1
false equivalence... Baltimike Nov 2018 #2
I'm giving you an opportunity to speak your own words Xipe Totec Nov 2018 #11
suuuuuuuuuure. O-kay then. nt Baltimike Nov 2018 #16
maybe all that hate the media is just show biz cuz it brings him attention. without media msongs Nov 2018 #3
truly. The most liberal outlet (supposedly) gave us "The Apprentice" Baltimike Nov 2018 #6
You know who you're quoting with "elections have consequences," right? n/t Igel Nov 2018 #4
Moscow Mitch and just about each and every pundit who repeats it ad nauseum. nt Baltimike Nov 2018 #5
Legitimate President Obama. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2018 #9
President Obama was throwing that BACK in their face, it started with the GOP. From 2006: Baltimike Nov 2018 #12
He said it "arrogantly" per the Republicans. treestar Nov 2018 #20
They said it first...along with "get over it" from Bush vs Gore circa 2000. nt Baltimike Nov 2018 #21
Yes. Elections have consequences is politer treestar Nov 2018 #23
but President Obama was quoting both... Baltimike Nov 2018 #24
Legitimate straight up wrong...for the record. nt Baltimike Nov 2018 #19
The media Eko Nov 2018 #7
Ummm...we will have to agree to disagree on that one. Baltimike Nov 2018 #8
No. We wont. Eko Nov 2018 #10
Ummm...yes, we will...since your parsing didn't udo the fact that I disagree with you. Baltimike Nov 2018 #14
Once again you are strawmaning me. Eko Nov 2018 #17
I am not strawmanning you at all...please read for comprehension. Baltimike Nov 2018 #18
I agree. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #13
Thank you...and YES!!! Follow their money. nt Baltimike Nov 2018 #15
Do you have specific examples? Generic Brad Nov 2018 #22

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
2. false equivalence...
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:49 PM
Nov 2018

I didn't make any comparison like that, so I would appreciate it if you didn't do it for me.

"Where I was going with this" is that the media expects Democrats to "reach out" or acquiesce to the right side of the aisle, but tell Democrats that "elections have consequences" when Democrats lose.

If there are examples of the conservative press asking members of the Republic party how THEY will "reach across the aisle" when they are in control, I am certain it is FAR outnumbered by the other scenario.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
11. I'm giving you an opportunity to speak your own words
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:09 PM
Nov 2018

You haven't said anything, so far, except:

Don't trust "the media".

Message received, and filed appropriately, in file 13.

msongs

(67,347 posts)
3. maybe all that hate the media is just show biz cuz it brings him attention. without media
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:49 PM
Nov 2018

he would be nowhere, man nt

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
6. truly. The most liberal outlet (supposedly) gave us "The Apprentice"
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:55 PM
Nov 2018

am I supposed to let them gaslight me any further?

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
12. President Obama was throwing that BACK in their face, it started with the GOP. From 2006:
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:13 PM
Nov 2018

He was ALSO throwing "Get over it" (from s/election 2000) back at them:

"“Elections have consequences,” Conrad told reporters."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11099780/ns/us_news-the_changing_court/t/why-bush-won-alito-fight/

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
24. but President Obama was quoting both...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 01:11 PM
Nov 2018

"Get over it" circa 2000 and "elections have consequences circa 2004.

Eko

(7,231 posts)
7. The media
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:58 PM
Nov 2018

is mostly just the media. There are left leaning and right leaning, but most are just the media.

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
8. Ummm...we will have to agree to disagree on that one.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:00 PM
Nov 2018

Because the idea that they don't lean or even spread propaganda is a myth

Eko

(7,231 posts)
10. No. We wont.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:09 PM
Nov 2018

Didn't I say this? "There are left leaning and right leaning". Did I ever say they don't lean? Dont strawman me.

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
14. Ummm...yes, we will...since your parsing didn't udo the fact that I disagree with you.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:16 PM
Nov 2018

The media is largely conservative masquerading around like they are liberal. And I don't reference reporters specifically, I am saying that the powers that insist on "the middle" regardless of where the facts are.

You can't claim the moral high ground while you're standing on a heap of bullshit, and you can't claim that "we meet in the middle" when one side is just lying.

Eko

(7,231 posts)
17. Once again you are strawmaning me.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 11:34 PM
Nov 2018

I never claimed that we meet in the middle at all. Why do you keep doing that?

Baltimike

(4,137 posts)
18. I am not strawmanning you at all...please read for comprehension.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 02:16 AM
Nov 2018

*I* am the one who said we'd have to agree to disagree.

And we will. Because I *still* don't agree with you. You're welcome.

Take care.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
22. Do you have specific examples?
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 11:32 AM
Nov 2018

Who said this? When did they say it? Where was it said? Inquiring minds want to know.

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