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Botany

(70,490 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:51 AM Nov 2018

Palm Beach Post: Did missing South Florida absentee ballots turn the tide?

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20181110/did-missing-south-florida-absentee-ballots-turn-tide


State elections data indicate hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots mailed out were not returned, more than enough to have made the difference in Florida’s 2018 midterm election, where margins were so slender the governor’s and senator’s races are headed for recounts.

The number of absentee ballots not returned was much higher than in the 2014 or 2016 general elections. And the data show that played to the benefit of Republican candidates, especially in heavily Democratic Palm Beach, Broward and Miami-Dade counties.


In those South Florida counties, 174,649 ballots sent to Democrats weren’t returned. That’s 91,038 more than those not returned by Republicans. The three counties accounted for 86 percent of the statewide gap of 105,283 between Democratic and Republican vote-by-mail ballots not returned.

In thousands of cases, the data show, county election supervisors didn’t send out requested ballots until after the legal cut-off, Oct. 31. They went out so close to Election Day it’s doubtful they could be returned in time to be counted, or to have problems sorted out, said Daniel Smith, chairman of University of Florida’s political science department, who specializes in absentee ballot analysis.
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Botany

(70,490 posts)
2. and now we have stories of absentee ballots that were just sitting in a Post Office
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 07:57 AM
Nov 2018
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211406625

And why is Rick Scott so afraid of looking @ and counting the vote? Might be because he
knows it was dirty.

Rick Scott's campaign announces three more election lawsuits

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/rick-scott-florida-election-senate/index.html

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
3. This is why I vote on Election Day at my precinct
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 08:45 AM
Nov 2018

Mail in ballots are way too shady in a bi partisan state

Botany

(70,490 posts)
7. And Scott's lead is @ about 17,000 votes right now
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:16 AM
Nov 2018

Scott/GOP is fighting tooth and nail not to have this fraud revealed.

Just recently I have seen a posting on DU about 1,000% increase in the
undervote aka spoiled ballots in the heavily democratic counties in FL in
2016 too. And yet the talking heads will go on and on about how the
democrats lost because the voters did not respond to their messages.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
5. Happened to me but I fooled them.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:10 AM
Nov 2018

I requested a mail in ballot to be sent to Indiana where I have been visiting family since August. It had not arrived by the Saturday prior to Election Day, waaaay too late to be counted. As it happened, my Florida daughter’s 50th birthday fell on the 7th, so I had already decided to fly back that week. So screw their late mail in ballot, I voted at my own precinct early Tuesday morning. But had I not decided to go home for the week, had not booked a flight, I would have been livid!

My mail here was held until I returned, so I will be very curious to see if the ballot came while I was away.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
8. SOMETHING FUNKY HERE
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:20 AM
Nov 2018

Add this to the body of evidence: I received a mail-in ballot on time, but, I decided to go in, in person to vote. As I walked into the facility there was a person accepting mail-in ballots. This was a first time. Never saw this before. A box was offered for you to drop your vote. I walked past it because I planned to vote in person.

Inside, they wouldn't allow me to vote unless I turned in my voided mail-in ballot. Now, if I didn't know that ahead of time that would have required another trip back, in order to vote. How convenient for the Republicans that most people who received those ballots late wouldn't have known about that requirement until election day.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
9. Stopping certain people from voting and or allowing their votes to counted has been S.O.P. for ....
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:33 AM
Nov 2018

... the GOP for years.

In the early 1960s William Rehnquist tried to stop blacks from registering to vote but
years later @ his senate confirmation hearing for the U.S. Supreme Court Rehnquist said
he could not remember if he did not such an action.

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/04/us/rehnquist-in-arizona-a-militant-conservative-in-60-s-politics.html

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
11. I don't know what it's going to take to wake up their Republican supporters.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:37 AM
Nov 2018

They have lost the high moral ground, but I don't think it matters to them.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
14. I have seen republican poll workers and election people as seeing their job to keep the GOP in ...
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 10:09 AM
Nov 2018

.... power and if it takes stopping certain people from voting (blacks) oh well, then that is
just something that needs to be done.

And it is not like we don't have examples in Florida such as in 2000 when DBT was hired by
Jeb Bush and removed 50,000 to 95,000 African Americans from voting because they were
"felons." (not true)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Here in Georgia, a lot of Democrats we called to remind them
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 09:34 AM
Nov 2018

to get those mail-in ballots they'd requested in asap hadn't received them yet and were wondering where they were. We were reminding them they could still vote in person during the early voting period instead, or on election day, and definitely should if the ballots didn't arrive by X date.

In this case, I actually really hope and expect that significantly more of those 91K Democrats did vote than did not. Leaving the rest. Significant numbers of Floridians are elderly or otherwise disabled.

Last voting day in Broward County:

“The voting is breaking all records in Broward County,” said Fred Bellis, a spokesman for the Broward Supervisor of Elections Office. “The numbers are higher than we’ve ever seen.”

https://thumbnails.texastribune.org/zyp8LNn8Y7Oi0Ly0x2ZITZsUv6I=/850x570/smart/filters:quality(80)/
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