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LA County Fire Chief on Trump's recent comments: "We're in extreme climate change right now. (Original Post) BeckyDem Nov 2018 OP
I'm a native Californian violetpastille Nov 2018 #1
That was the smart thing to do. Its so sad and increasingly tragic but it is not going to stop. BeckyDem Nov 2018 #3
Now we have to learn to adapt? BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #2
if you haven't read this, it's worth it... anarch Nov 2018 #5
A couple months ago my dentist BigmanPigman Nov 2018 #6
Thinking this is another weight on the entire water problem in CA. libdem4life Nov 2018 #4
Horrifying. BeckyDem Nov 2018 #7

violetpastille

(1,483 posts)
1. I'm a native Californian
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:04 PM
Nov 2018

Who moved to Washington state three years ago for this reason.

If you can, please consider it. This isn't getting better.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
3. That was the smart thing to do. Its so sad and increasingly tragic but it is not going to stop.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:09 PM
Nov 2018

We're doing nothing smart about addressing it, the cons are nuts.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
5. if you haven't read this, it's worth it...
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:33 PM
Nov 2018
https://www.lifeworth.com/deepadaptation.pdf

This talks about "adaptation" to climate change (as opposed to mitigation/sustainment of our current infrastructure as even being a realistic option at this point).

It's an academic paper, so not really aimed at a general audience...my understanding is that at least one peer-reviewed journal didn't want to publish it, basically because it's too depressing, but I don't see that as a really "scientific" reason to avoid talking about how it might be time to consider that it's too late to save what we have, and time to start figuring out how we're going to deal with things when climate-driven events such as these fires become more and more prevalent as things continue to worsen...there's no way we're putting the brakes on the icecaps melting, for instance...well anyway I thought it was a good read, and sobering.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
6. A couple months ago my dentist
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:41 PM
Nov 2018

said that we must now adapt and it pissed me off since it seemed like we were accepting defeat and we must continue to put the brakes on climate change. But then I read more and it seems that this approach is realistic. I live in Southern CA and have seen how the weather has changed and has effected me (from fires, to floods, to allergies and year round bug bites). Gov Brown has always been an environmentalist and has had to look at our state change over the years. He is for both fighting climate change with renewable energy, etc and adapting to prepare for the changes. We must do both, not one or the other.

I will read the article now. Thanks!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
4. Thinking this is another weight on the entire water problem in CA.
Mon Nov 12, 2018, 06:24 PM
Nov 2018

Haven't kept up, but last heard that the water available from the Colorado River has decreased significantly in the last years and the River nearly dries up before it gets to Mexico. What is really scary is that the Central Valley...which uses ginormous amounts of water...accounts for about 25% of the food for the country. At least it was a few years ago. The Oroville Dam...under significant reconstruction... is smack in the middle of the fire area...Paradise and Chico.

A dry California hurts the nation. Then when it rains, because of the lack of ground cover that has burnt, it floods and runs off where it's unneeded or unwanted and can flood smaller waterways.

Climate change, indeed.



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