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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhoa. Federal judge just brought Kemp's victory lap to a screeching halt.
No certifications until Fridaywas supposed to be tomorrow& every clerk must set up a system for voters to find out the status of their provisional ballots.
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A federal judge on Monday ordered election officials to review thousands of provisional ballots that havent been counted in Georgias close election for governor.
U.S. District Judge Amy Totenbergs order calls for a hotline for voters to check if their provisional ballots were counted, a review of voter registrations, and updated reports from the state government about why many voters were required to use provisional ballots.
The court decision comes as votes are still being counted in the race for governor between Democrat Stacey Abrams and Republican Brian Kemp. Abrams trails Kemp and would need to gain more than 20,000 additional votes to force a runoff election.
Totenberg said shes providing limited, modest relief to help protect voters. The order preserves Tuesdays deadline for county election offices to certify results and the Nov. 20 deadline for Secretary of State Robyn Crittenden to certify the election. The ruling enjoins Crittenden from certifying the election before Friday at 5 p.m.
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Nitram
(22,791 posts)DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)Why wasn't kemp made to step aside so as to not be a conflict of interest? Same thing with scott. They should not be in charge of any counting of votes.
In It to Win It
(8,236 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)are normally unwritten rules that people are expected to follow or else be shamed/pressured into following. Unfortunately, the new breed of Trump Republican has no shame, or has it in only microscopic quantities.
calimary
(81,212 posts)Theyve learned that they can cheat like this and THEY WONT GET CAUGHT. Its the getting caught - and having to pay a penalty for it - that matters. One of many good things about Watergate was that EVERYBODY involved had to face the music. From the lower tiers and peripheral figures to the big names - all the big names. All the way up to the president himself. Many had to serve actual time in prison.
There should be consequences for bad behavior. Because bad behavior is antisocial and has multiple negative impacts on the commons - the community, the climate, the institutions, the law, the social conventions, the collective - that knits is together as a cohesive society that serves everyone in it. Where everybody follows the rules for the most part, and minds their manners and obeys the law and gets along. Everybody drives in the same directions on the road. Everybody shares a general agreement in various kinds of acceptable behavior. And limitations on same. That sort of thing.
And when you have utterly reckless lawlessness, where Machiavelli is really whos President, and you dont have to face any consequences when you do something wrong, whats to deter you from doing it again? If you know nobody will hold you accountable, why follow the rules? Its Rules? WHAT rules? If you know there wont be consequences for bad behavior, wheres the motivation to change that bad behavior?
I think that knowing something is wrong, or sinful, or illegal, can be a deterrent. Not for everybody, certainly. Absolutely! There are those who believe theyre above such things. Rules dont apply. And they can do anything they damn well feel like doing and get away with it.
And unfortunately theyre either in the White House or aggressively covering for the ones in the White House.
KPN
(15,642 posts)responsibility should be able to run for any other statewide office while in that position. There are just too many obvious conflicts of interest and the Chief Election Officer cannot simply recuse him/herself and still perform his/her job. At a minimum, they should be required to take a full leave of absence while a candidate for and fund raising for another statewide elected position.
spanone
(135,822 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)In Georgia and Florida election will be exposed soon , and why both scott and kemp and trump are desperate to keep it covered up? Would not surprise me at all. Especially if they find out putin was behind it for them.
FakeNoose
(32,630 posts)The fact that Kemp's candidacy should have been DISQUALIFIED (since he didn't resign as SoS, and he took part in the vote suppression during his campaign) is not addressed in this ruling. I believe the Georgia Dems can file another lawsuit for that alone.
But they're putting out the first fire by getting more time to count the votes.
Go Georgia Democrats! Fight for this and for Stacey Abrams!
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Anyone here think they're able?
irisblue
(32,967 posts)How unsuprising.
triron
(21,998 posts)Response to 2naSalit (Reply #13)
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karin_sj
(808 posts)Isn't it interesting that the two states with the most shady goings on (voter suppression, not counting all the votes, misleading ballots, etc., etc.) are states where there was a Republican secretary of state and governor who were actively involved in efforts to discard/not count votes of the opposing party before and after the election. These efforts directly benefited their chances of winning their own elections. AND these two people directly benefitted from disenfranchising as many Democratic voters as possible WHILE they were in offices that directly affected the election process.
And now they're being really aggressive (with the direct assistance of the cheater-in-chief) about keeping their lead and not counting all the votes.
Raster
(20,998 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,631 posts)Has a nice ring to it. Fingers crossed for Stacey Abrams.
High praise for the judge. Thanks for the post, kpete.
♡ lmsp
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)I assume? That the next in line for SOS is now running it?
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Kemp will be out of office if he loses the gubernatorial race. He couldnt run for two offices at once.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)resignation effetive as of the end of his current term?
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Kemp is now only a candidate. He no longer is an elected official.
Kemp had many, many years to do the dirty work of stealing elections and disenfranchising voters.
However. he may just lose!
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)now running the election and if they have more integrity?
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)He was one of my county commissioners before being elected to Congress. He was redistricted and then he eventually lost reelection to a Republican. The GA GOP hated him.
diva77
(7,639 posts)commissioner of the Georgia Department of Human Services, to replace Kemp.
https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/2018/11/08/deal-appoints-lawyer-as-secretary-of-state-to-replace-kemp/?slreturn=20181014014920
Updated: Deal Appoints Lawyer as Secretary of State to Replace Kemp
Gov. Nathan Deal has appointed Robyn Crittenden, commissioner of the Georgia Department of Human Services, to replace Kemp, who resigned Thursday morning after declaring victory in the hotly contested gubernatorial election.
By Meredith Hobbs | November 08, 2018 at 12:17 PM
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She was sworn in as secretary of state Thursday afternoon and will serve the remainder of Kemps term. Robyn has been one of the most effective leaders within my administration and she is well-qualified to fill one of the most important jobs in state government, Deal said in a statement.
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Deal appointed Crittenden as DHSs leader in July 2015, according to her DHS bio. Previously, she served as chief operating officer of the Georgia Student Finance Commission. She also has served as the general counsel for Morehouse College and for the Georgia Student Finance Commission and as assistant vice chancellor of legal affairs for contracts for the University System of Georgias Board of Regents.
She co-chairs the Older Adults Cabinet with Georgia first lady Sandra Deal, aimed at improving the well-being of older Georgians.
Crittenden started her legal career at Atlanta firm Powell Goldstein, now part of Bryan Cave, after earning a law degree from the University of Michigan.
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Gov. Deal is repub; I can't find Crittenden's party affiliation -- I'm guessing repug.
dalton99a
(81,450 posts)Thank You for Keep Fighting, Dems.. in Georgia and Florida!
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)Does this order actually say that any Provisionals must be counted, or just give more time for voters to correct, correctable mistakes?
For instance, if a patient voted as a Provisional because they were in the wrong district, unless they can prove they were in the right district that vote still wont count.
Or if a voter was not registered, they can't correct that can they?
In the end, how many of these Provisional votes will change?
I foresee that the amount of votes out of the Provisionals will be very small, regardless of how long the voter has the chance to correct. For instance if someone left there DOB off the envelope, that's correctable, but if someone wasn't in the right precinct, nothing can change that, right?