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edhopper

(33,483 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:12 AM Nov 2018

What redress is there for Georgia?

overwhelming evidence that Kemp is illegally stealing this election. What can be done to prevent this travesty?

In Georgia it has gone so beyond irregularities, it is blatant. Is there no law to stop this?

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brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
1. I don't mean to be flippant, but what evidence is there?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:15 AM
Nov 2018

"We all know" is not admissible in Court. What actions have occurred that would violate a Federal or State Statute?

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
2. Try this:
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:30 AM
Nov 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/09/opinions/dont-let-brian-kemp-steal-georgias-gubernatorial-election-van-jones/index.html

Purging voters from the rolls: Under Kemp, Georgia eliminated 1.5 million people from voter rolls between 2012 to 2016 -- nearly 10.6 percent of the total -- in part through an "exact match" standard that deleted people if so much as a comma was out of place.

Closing polling places: Georgia shut down 214 polling places across the state, mainly in areas with higher poverty rates and significant populations of people of color.

Disenfranchising voters: Between 2013 and 2015, the state cited its "exact match" protocol and canceled nearly 35,000 voter registration applications (76 percent were from applicants who identified as African-American, Latino or Asian-American), according to a lawsuit against Kemp filed by a coalition of civil rights groups.

Sowing voter confusion: Days after the midterm voter registration deadline in Georgia passed, 53,000 voting applications were still pending, the Associated Press reported. An AP analysis found that 70% of the applications were from black Georgians.

Creating long lines with too few voting machines: Voters, many in areas with significant minority populations, waited an average of three hours to cast their votes on November 6, a representative from the nonpartisan organization Verified Voting told Wired. Some voters waited for hours because Kemp's office did not provide power cords for voter machines. Thousands of voters waited at precincts with only three voting machines -- and now, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports Kemp's office had hundreds of unused voting machines sitting in a warehouse.

Forcing voters to use provisional ballots: The combination of voter roll purges and strict voter ID laws (Brian Kemp himself was initially turned away from the polls on Tuesday) forced many eligible voters to use provisional paper ballots. Many of these have not yet been counted.

Refusing to secure elections: Georgia is one of a handful of states that runs its elections using direct recording electronic machines without keeping a paper trail of votes. Kemp repeatedly ignored warnings and fought legal efforts to force him to secure the vote and create a paper trail, all while accusing Democrats of trying to hack the state's voter registration files.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
4. None of those represent criminal conduct
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:21 PM
Nov 2018

Unethical? Certainly. But States are allowed to determine rules for Voter ID, voting frequency to prevent purging, and use of voting technology.

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
6. If it could be shown Kemp used his power at Secretary of State with the INTENT to
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:39 PM
Nov 2018

affect election results and suppress votes by MISUSING administrative resources for political purposes, I would be surprised if there aren't any lawyers who can see a legal opportunity there.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. I want Abrams to win, even donated what I could to her campaign. KKKemp is a remnant of old GA.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:25 PM
Nov 2018

But lots of folks just like me were purged LEGITIMATELY from the rolls because we moved from one district to another (and hopefully re-registered there). People purged had to go at least 7 years without voting to be purged. In Georgia it is so easy to check your registration status. Democratic organizations are missing the boat if they don't help/encourage people to do that periodically.

The unused voting machines were the property of the county. Fulton and Dekalb counties are part of Atlanta, and controlled by Democrats. In a time when people can vote by mail and there is almost a full month of early voting, I think it is reasonable to assume as many voting machines and polling places are not needed on the last day. In this case, they made a mistake, although most people still got to vote. Many of the voting machines were not used for other reasons, including broken.

The 53,000 could still vote on a provisional ballot. They were not turned away from polls.

I do agree we need better voting machines with auditable features, but lots of states do. I also hope to heck that the KKKemps of the world see their chances of winning in the future are low, and don't even run. It was so great to see Lucy McBath win in a race where she was given little chance. GOPers are saying it was fixed, in a county that has gone red -- including Gingrich and Tom Price -- for decades.

While I want all Democrats to win, I don't want to do it by GOPer style tricks and distortions of facts.

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
7. It is all about proving malicious intent and the misuse of his resources for political purposes.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:47 PM
Nov 2018

But who is going to pursue any kind of investigation into either Kemp or problems in other states? Probably nobody.

edhopper

(33,483 posts)
3. Besides
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:36 AM
Nov 2018

deleting servers with voter records, purging over a million voters from the rolls and denying over 50,000 voters, mostly people of color from eligibility and rejecting over 300,000 absentee ballots? Then there is the "return to sender" absentee ballots.
What evidence do you want Kemp on tape?

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-leaked-audio-georgia-voting-745711/

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/10/23/18014968/brian-kemp-stacey-abrams-georgia-voting-audio-rolling-stone

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