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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:43 AM Nov 2018

White professor calls cops on black university student for putting her feet on chair during class

A white college professor at the University of Texas at San Antonio called the police on a black student and had her escorted out of class because she didn’t like how she was sitting, reports SBG San Antonio.

In video shared to Twitter, Biology professor Anita Moss shows two police officers where the student is sitting so that they can escort her out of class.

“This professor stopped class entirely and stepped out to call the police just because one student had her feet up on a seat in front of her. Mind you she wasn’t talking or interrupting lecture,” the person who posted the video wrote. “The class before this professor went on a whole tirade about how uncivil we all were because a few students were on their phone or not paying attention, cutting lecture time for the rest of us because her ego was bruised.”

A Twitter user who identified herself as the victim of the apparent action pointed out that she didn’t violate the student code of conduct.

“This is me in Anita Moss’ 2053 Bio classroom. Upon entering class I was told I needed to leave or would be escorted out by officers, I never disobeyed the student code of conduct. Not once. A police report is being filed atm, this is just the beginning. Thanks for your support!” she tweeted.



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White professor calls cops on black university student for putting her feet on chair during class (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 OP
As a white woman, I have to wonder-- what is it with all these white women? dawg day Nov 2018 #1
I did the census in 2010 edhopper Nov 2018 #2
I was a field enumerator many census ago Mosby Nov 2018 #23
The nicest people edhopper Nov 2018 #25
I worked on the 2010 census too The Genealogist Nov 2018 #29
luckily edhopper Nov 2018 #31
I'm in the Ozarks. The Genealogist Nov 2018 #32
I went into some dicey neighborhoods edhopper Nov 2018 #33
Did you forget the women in NYC that did the same type thing? Tipperary Nov 2018 #37
yes edhopper Nov 2018 #39
I agree with that. malthaussen Nov 2018 #9
+1, I'm thinking miss used of 911 uponit7771 Nov 2018 #21
Sorry - I am with the professor here .. The student has no business putting feet up. Classrooms are Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #3
I was at the university for years, I never saw this happening, but that was a long time ago. RKP5637 Nov 2018 #7
Wait.... you are for calling the cops? MrGrieves Nov 2018 #13
No Iam not. Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #16
I am sure d_r Nov 2018 #58
So? University PD are actual cops obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #77
University of California has actual police officers. At my campus their training emphasized... Hekate Nov 2018 #85
It does seem pretty disrespectful fescuerescue Nov 2018 #26
I've got a bad back and limited sensation in my right leg. haele Nov 2018 #35
I'm sorry to hear that fescuerescue Nov 2018 #40
Its an ridiculous overreaction regardless of the rest of the story jcgoldie Nov 2018 #42
Could be fescuerescue Nov 2018 #67
Issues like that are usually taken care of in the first week of classes. Coventina Nov 2018 #41
Calling campus police? zipplewrath Nov 2018 #30
I would never call the police. Any professor worth his/her salt would command enough Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #34
Canceled class zipplewrath Nov 2018 #36
Adjuncts are the dark underbelly of the university system. Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #38
Easy solution for those with poor attitude and sense of entitlement LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #61
That is my thought. Too many overescalate. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #60
Sweet Christ. Calling the police is not an acceptable response to defiance from a student. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #56
There was no defiance ...she never said a word to the student...sound like racism to me. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #64
You don't call the cops for something like that. You refer the matter to the Dean LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #59
There's A Woman RobinA Nov 2018 #73
The position of a student's feet Codeine Nov 2018 #78
Why dont you try talking to your Boss or your CEO with your feet on your desk Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #80
Students aren't being paid by their instructors Codeine Nov 2018 #81
Why didn't the professor simply ask the student vlyons Nov 2018 #4
Aha! A reasonable idea! ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #15
We don't know what happened. That's why investigation. Hortensis Nov 2018 #24
Didn't know that was a criminal offense. malthaussen Nov 2018 #5
Wow! In my day, which was a long time ago, the rest MineralMan Nov 2018 #6
Yep, same here! Well, and also a long time ago in the 60's. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #10
I can't really imagine any of my college professors calling MineralMan Nov 2018 #14
LOL! "I'll take feet for $100." n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #19
Except the teachers were as hip as the students grantcart Nov 2018 #27
Well, that's true, too. At least in the English Department MineralMan Nov 2018 #28
Just finished a degree at Rutgers. The professor requires training to manage the classroom. TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #63
Well, there's an instructor who's lost all control of her class . . . Journeyman Nov 2018 #8
+1 malthaussen Nov 2018 #12
This is the correct answer... As a college prof, if you are so incompetent you can't deal with a JCMach1 Nov 2018 #65
Was she hoping that the police would shoot her? WTF? allgood33 Nov 2018 #11
Nice seats jberryhill Nov 2018 #17
Public college? There's a due process violation here MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #18
Why doesn't this professor have control of her own classroom? Thomas Hurt Nov 2018 #20
Remember the present day Texas Republican definition of "control" of a classroom DFW Nov 2018 #22
You would be surprised. We professors are not allowed to confront students on anything. Coventina Nov 2018 #44
That's true. GaYellowDawg Nov 2018 #83
Putting her feet on a desk in front of her is not rude in my opinion...done the same thing ...bio Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #45
Don't know if attendance is required or not, but Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #43
I do a variation on this in my own classes. Coventina Nov 2018 #46
Personally, I separate grades and behavior. I feel that is wrong. If a person passes the course Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #48
I do experience-based learning in my classroom. I don't give exams. Coventina Nov 2018 #50
I teach calculus and Chemistry...and computers as applied to math and science. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #53
Well, that's your choice and your opinion. Coventina Nov 2018 #54
I have taught math students who could not take a test...I feel testing will be used in college Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #66
Well, our college district got rid of testing for admissions, so clearly many disagree with Coventina Nov 2018 #74
I would have to see which kids could go on to higher math...I do not like all the Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #75
We are a district of 10 colleges run by the county. Coventina Nov 2018 #76
This is college not high school...I think that is ridiculous. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #47
Are you saying a teacher cannot maintain decorum in his/her classroom? Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #49
I am saying the teacher should teach biology. She is not their Mommy ....sounds like racism to me... Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #68
ok Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #72
FWIW Texas still allows schools to use corporal punishment dalton99a Nov 2018 #51
I rather doubt that applies to college students. Coventina Nov 2018 #52
In college? I doubt that because it would be considered assault. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #69
imho -- Much ado about nothing. ananda Nov 2018 #55
This professor needs to learn about battles and how to pick them. Oh, a little crash course in the WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #57
Here is an update - the lecturer is no longer teaching this class and the student is back BumRushDaShow Nov 2018 #62
Excellent...she hopefully will never 'teach' a class again. Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #70
good Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #79
Absolutely disgusting!! onetexan Nov 2018 #71
Jesus Christ. The professor handled this poorly. LuckyCharms Nov 2018 #82
I work for the University of Texas Horse with no Name Nov 2018 #84

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. As a white woman, I have to wonder-- what is it with all these white women?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:49 AM
Nov 2018

Almost all of these "police calls" are by white women-- and from all over the spectrum-- not just typical Trumpians, but an executive, now a college professor.
I think when a couple are sent a $10K bill for wasting police time, and sued by the victim for false report, maybe they'll start thinking that the police aren't their lackeys meant to enforce their outrage.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
2. I did the census in 2010
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:52 AM
Nov 2018

the angriest people by far were middle ages white women. Several threatened to call the police.
I told them to go ahead, since the the census is protected by law.

Mosby

(16,299 posts)
23. I was a field enumerator many census ago
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:47 PM
Nov 2018

I did call the cops on one guy who kept slamming the door in my face.

I could barely conceal my glee when the officer ripped into the jerk for like 5 minutes.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
29. I worked on the 2010 census too
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:39 PM
Nov 2018

I was offered the more lucrative field supervisor position but took a lower office position because there are lots of gun kooks in my area. The stories of hateful people and of guns being pulled on ennumerators made me glad I did.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
32. I'm in the Ozarks.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:03 PM
Nov 2018

There are a lot of areas that are what my partner's aunt called "The booger woods." Lots of places I wouldn't go because I don't want to be an unwilling participant in someone's reenactment of Deliverance. Not all of the area is like that but there are plenty of scary people around here.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
37. Did you forget the women in NYC that did the same type thing?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:38 PM
Nov 2018

Or did you just forget the sarcasm emoji?

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
9. I agree with that.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:59 AM
Nov 2018

These frivolous wastings of police time should have consequences. Not quite as bad as filing a false report, but the police have better things to do. And it gives the police an excuse to rough up or otherwise intimidate citizens, which is not a good idea at all.

-- Mal

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
3. Sorry - I am with the professor here .. The student has no business putting feet up. Classrooms are
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:53 AM
Nov 2018

places of learning. I detest students who think its ok to eat/ sleep/ chat with friends or do anything to attract negative attention.

Somethings aren't about race.

Sorry



On Edit: I assume the student was given fair warning. Police should have only been called if the student was defiant.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
7. I was at the university for years, I never saw this happening, but that was a long time ago.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:58 AM
Nov 2018

If the student were defiant, I could see it escalating, but to just call the police, I think that's over the top.

 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
13. Wait.... you are for calling the cops?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:03 PM
Nov 2018

You are for calling the cops and wasting their time and energy for a person putting their feet up a chair?

You cannot be serious. Even if the student was given a warning calling the cops? This seems to be a much LARGER distraction to the course than a person putting their feet up on a chair. Hey look my nose is on the floor!

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
85. University of California has actual police officers. At my campus their training emphasized...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:01 AM
Nov 2018

...student psychology, and there was a bicycle patrol in the nearby low income/ student enclave, which was extremely densely populated. Campus cops were a branch of the local PD. The year I worked in their office I was fairly impressed with their professionalism -- so I was shocked at some of the incidents reported at (for instance) Berkeley.

haele

(12,647 posts)
35. I've got a bad back and limited sensation in my right leg.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:36 PM
Nov 2018

I've always got my right foot on something that elevates it just so I can get up and walk out of class without five minutes of trying to get feeling back.

Some people do need to elevate their feet, especially if they've been sitting in several classes way too long during the day.

Haele

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
40. I'm sorry to hear that
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:12 AM
Nov 2018

Hope that gets better for you.

Your example is a good of one of where there is more to the story.

As I suggested in my post. I feel like we don't have enough information on this particular case (the OP's). Maybe this college student has a bad back too. Or maybe she was just being an ass and the teacher got sick of dealing with her.

We just don't know.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
42. Its an ridiculous overreaction regardless of the rest of the story
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:18 AM
Nov 2018

I'm a teacher in high school and deal with some knucklehead kids every day. Yes sometimes you lose your cool, everybody does. But calling the cops because you don't like how someone is sitting is just ridiculous. Get over your authoritarian self.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
67. Could be
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:14 PM
Nov 2018

I suspect however, that if this teacher is calling the cops everyday or often on minor behavior issues, that it will be corrected. Either by the school or by the police.

If on the other hand, it's an isolated incident, then it might be an isolated for a reason.

All we can do in the lack of information, is to project and speculate.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
41. Issues like that are usually taken care of in the first week of classes.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:16 AM
Nov 2018

Accommodations are made all the time for students with any kind of disabilities.

That's not a problem.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
30. Calling campus police?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:44 PM
Nov 2018

In my day the professor would have just contacted the dean and had me removed from the class. The dean might have thrown me off campus. The cops????

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
34. I would never call the police. Any professor worth his/her salt would command enough
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 02:35 PM
Nov 2018

respect from students atleast to throw the student out of the class.

But there are a few students who come to class with tons of attitude and sense of entitlement rather than a frame of mind to learn new things. They feel they have nothing to learn and just want the fucking degree and feel they should get it because they are paying for it.

They see themselves as customers and teachers as salesmen. They are disrespectful and play mind games.

Teachers, especially adjuncts depend on the reviews they get on SIR II surveys for renewal of contracts.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
36. Canceled class
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:02 PM
Nov 2018

I had a professor that had to end lecture about 20 minutes early one Friday. The students expressed some joy over that.

He said, "An education is the only thing people are willing to pay for, and not receive".

Generally, the types of students you describe don't last long.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
38. Adjuncts are the dark underbelly of the university system.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 04:03 PM
Nov 2018

My wife puts in 100/week or more ..


But between the management that doesnt give a damn about learning outcomes ( Their Official Mantra is " Retention Retention Retention" ) and a small set of student like I described above..my wife is this close to calling it quits

LiberalFighter

(50,889 posts)
61. Easy solution for those with poor attitude and sense of entitlement
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:08 AM
Nov 2018

When they don't do the work. They don't get the grade they think they deserve.

LiberalFighter

(50,889 posts)
59. You don't call the cops for something like that. You refer the matter to the Dean
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:05 AM
Nov 2018

or whoever is responsible on campus for students.

That professor should be fired.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
73. There's A Woman
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:59 PM
Nov 2018

right behind the video taker with a spread of food! That's just wrong.

Get off my lawn!!!

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
80. Why dont you try talking to your Boss or your CEO with your feet on your desk
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:04 PM
Nov 2018

It is FUCKING disrespectful !!!

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
81. Students aren't being paid by their instructors
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:23 PM
Nov 2018

Indeed, they’re paying to be there. And I fail to see how putting one’s feet up implies or expresses a lack of respect.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. Why didn't the professor simply ask the student
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:54 AM
Nov 2018

to not put her feet on the chair, as in "Please don't put your feet on the chair, where another person in the next class may sit?"

How hard would that be?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. Aha! A reasonable idea!
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:11 PM
Nov 2018

However we need to consider that the professor was:

1. Afraid of black people
2. Resorting to passive aggressive behavior instead of direct confrontation

It shows very poor classroom management skills among other things.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. We don't know what happened. That's why investigation.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:55 PM
Nov 2018

Naturally, I looked at the info available to see what was said, and whether the prof did is an open question.

malthaussen

(17,187 posts)
5. Didn't know that was a criminal offense.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:57 AM
Nov 2018

The police should have laughed and told the professor to take control of her own classroom.

-- Mal

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
6. Wow! In my day, which was a long time ago, the rest
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:58 AM
Nov 2018

of the class would have walked out with that student. But, that was way back in the late 1960s. I guess things have changed...

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
14. I can't really imagine any of my college professors calling
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:04 PM
Nov 2018

the Keystone Kampus Kops to do anything like that, anyhow. Feet on a seat? Really? Who cares? Not the next student to sit in that seat. I do not ever remember looking at a seat to see if it was clean. I sat down. My jeans weren't pristine, I'm sure, and someone else's ass was occupying that seat before I sat on it. Feet? Ass? I'll take feet for $100.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
27. Except the teachers were as hip as the students
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

It would have been difficult to walk out of a lot of my classes because if the weather was good the class be outside on the grass.

That was the 70s

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
8. Well, there's an instructor who's lost all control of her class . . .
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:59 AM
Nov 2018

If simple disciplinary enforcement eludes someone's capabilities, they've no business trying to teach at any level.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
65. This is the correct answer... As a college prof, if you are so incompetent you can't deal with a
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:09 PM
Nov 2018

tiny (if that big) disciplinary issue, you have no business teaching.

And, you never, ever single a student out that is a complete overreaction to the issue and MAY be racist at its core.

MaryMagdaline

(6,853 posts)
18. Public college? There's a due process violation here
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:30 PM
Nov 2018

I don't know what's more upsetting ... the violation of this student's civil rights or the smirky faces of the students sitting on their asses when a fellow student is abused under color of law. Americans need to step it up.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
20. Why doesn't this professor have control of her own classroom?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:39 PM
Nov 2018

You have student acting up, being rude.

don't professors have the power to cut students from their courses.

DFW

(54,355 posts)
22. Remember the present day Texas Republican definition of "control" of a classroom
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 12:46 PM
Nov 2018

These days, it means taking out a loaded pistol and standing her ground by blasting a hole in the offending student's leg.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
44. You would be surprised. We professors are not allowed to confront students on anything.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:21 AM
Nov 2018

I'm kind of surprised this teacher even bothered.

We've been told we need to cater to the students and keep them in the seats by any means necessary.

I've given up trying to make students do anything.

I'd maybe ask a student to not put their feet up, but if they refused, I'd sigh and just move on.

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
83. That's true.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:10 PM
Nov 2018

In my state, funding used to be based on enrollment at the beginning of the semester. Now it’s based on enrollment at the end, which means that when students drop classes too much, funding is reduced. Colleges and universities place much more severe limits on dropping classes, but we are still directed to retain as many students as possible. Keep them happy.

Nevertheless, I think this professor really screwed up. I teach biology, both for majors and nonmajors, and anatomy & physiology. My discipline has higher fail/drop rates than most. It can be hugely frustrating to teach a class that I have a passion for and see apathy and a refusal to engage with the material. What I do is to teach to the good ones and not worry about the ones who don’t care. The only time I confront students is when they are being distracting to other students. And I don’t go on a tirade. I’ll just say something like, “I really need to be the only one talking right now” or “I need you to lock down for a little bit and focus on this point.” Then I ask the student after class and tell him/her that they were distracting another student and that can’t happen again.

Large scale confrontation never works out. You lose classes permanently for that. Calling security on a student for putting her feet up? Humiliating a student like that is something that will follow that prof for years. I wouldn’t call security unless a student was being so disruptive that I had to ask them to leave and they wouldn’t, or unless they looked like they were get violent. I see students getting on their phones and sometimes I’ll ask them a question. And then grin at them and say, “maybe your friend can text you the answer?” Usually good for a laugh and tone of voice and expression can take a lot of sting out of it. Basically, I discipline by teasing, and can get away with it because I make it clear to classes from the outset that I care and I’m prepared to like them.

With the caveat that I don’t know her and could be completely wrong, she sounds like a research professor who doesn’t particularly like to teach. She sounds like the type who is insecure in that setting and is at least a little scared of her students, and therefore overreacts.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
45. Putting her feet on a desk in front of her is not rude in my opinion...done the same thing ...bio
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:23 AM
Nov 2018

lectures are long...Professor is a raging bigot and needs to be fired.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
43. Don't know if attendance is required or not, but
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:21 AM
Nov 2018

it seems to me that if attendance is required, the professor could have taken care of this by announcing that anyone with their feet on another seat would be marked as absent for the day. That, or something like it, would have been a much better way to handle it.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
46. I do a variation on this in my own classes.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:23 AM
Nov 2018

"Attendance" means arriving on time, not leaving early, not wandering in and out of the classroom, not sleeping, not chatting, not playing with your cell phone, and not wearing ear buds or headphones.

I explain this in detail on the first day of class, and it's made explicit in the syllabus.

Still, every semester, I have people fail the course because of these behaviors.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
48. Personally, I separate grades and behavior. I feel that is wrong. If a person passes the course
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:27 AM
Nov 2018

he/she should pass period...discipline should be not be a criteria as often it amounts to a popularity contest...those students one likes fare better than others. I believe in the numbers period where grading is concerned. It is math. I taught High School and college and never had an issue.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
50. I do experience-based learning in my classroom. I don't give exams.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:29 AM
Nov 2018

So, participation and paying attention are crucial.

If you are sleeping or playing on your cell phone, or not in the classroom, you are not learning.

That's how it works in my classroom.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
53. I teach calculus and Chemistry...and computers as applied to math and science.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:35 AM
Nov 2018

I absolutely don't care for experience based learning...don't mean to offend. I don't believe in it...again...way to subjective in my view.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
54. Well, that's your choice and your opinion.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:40 AM
Nov 2018

There are many, many studies that show the effectiveness of active learning, and it has worked well for me and my students.

It's a relatively small percentage that don't quickly get enthusiastic about that approach.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
66. I have taught math students who could not take a test...I feel testing will be used in college
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:10 PM
Nov 2018

thus children must be trained to take a test without panic. I have seen many students who understood the concept but could not pass a calculus test. Some never learned their multiplication tables if you can believe it. Now, they give tests in most colleges in math, and you must take non-credit courses until you reach a certain threshold. I also had a child who did not learn division...she learned some convoluted way that was taught...took way to much time. I taught her division before Algebra III ...Just my opinion that testing is essential in the current environment. Of course, I do believe that testing has way to much emphasis these days...but it is our reality. We can agree to disagree on this matter. Cheers.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
74. Well, our college district got rid of testing for admissions, so clearly many disagree with
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:59 PM
Nov 2018

you.

GPA from high school (if the student has graduated or attended in the last 10 years) is what is used to place students in English and Math.

If the student graduated or attended high school more than a decade ago, then the Accuplacer is still used.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
75. I would have to see which kids could go on to higher math...I do not like all the
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:58 PM
Nov 2018

testing we have now but you need some....and college district? What is that. In our area kids go on to many different colleges.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
76. We are a district of 10 colleges run by the county.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:58 PM
Nov 2018

We are individually accredited, but administered by one centralized office through the county government.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
47. This is college not high school...I think that is ridiculous.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:24 AM
Nov 2018

How about she gets out of her job as she is more interested in causing trouble than in teaching.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
49. Are you saying a teacher cannot maintain decorum in his/her classroom?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:29 AM
Nov 2018

The students should be able to do whatever they want? Are you serious?

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
68. I am saying the teacher should teach biology. She is not their Mommy ....sounds like racism to me...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:16 PM
Nov 2018

never says a word and then calls the cops...she should be fired immediately. As a teacher. I pick my battles. You can spend hours attempting to 'maintain' your version of decorum or you can teach your subject...and in college. I consider the teacher's behavior ridiculous. I don't take attendance when I teach college course as those who don't come will fail...their choice. They are young adults not in high school. I warn them in the beginning how important it is to come and do homework (counts as a test if it benefits them-don't count it if it brings the final grade down).

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
72. ok
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:52 PM
Nov 2018

I agree the teacher's reaction was over the top. I was simply suggesting that other, less drastic steps, could have been taken. If it works for you then your version of how to do it is fine, but I think if you get a really rowdy group sometimes you have to do a little more to be fair to the other students present so their attention is not diverted.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,326 posts)
57. This professor needs to learn about battles and how to pick them. Oh, a little crash course in the
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:46 AM
Nov 2018

racist history of the police and a quick overview of how her actions help uphold white supremacy wouldn't hurt, either.

BumRushDaShow

(128,859 posts)
62. Here is an update - the lecturer is no longer teaching this class and the student is back
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:18 AM
Nov 2018
In a letter sent to students on Tuesday, the university’s president, Taylor Eighmy, said initial reactions indicated that “feelings of marginalization on the part of some students ― especially our African American students ― are real and profound.”

Two separate investigations are being carried out in relation to the matter, including “one on potential discrimination” and “the other on classroom management.”

“For the best interest of all involved, the faculty member’s classes will be taught by another faculty member for the remainder of the semester,” he wrote. “The student involved in the incident has been welcomed back to class and offered support services.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/utsa-texas-university-black-student-white-professor-cops_us_5beb9582e4b044bbb1aa1031


Here is the UTSA letter sent to students via email -

President Eighmy provides update addressing classroom incident

Editor's Note: UTSA President Taylor Eighmy sent this email to UTSA students further updating them on Monday's classroom incident.

(Nov. 13, 2018) -- Dear Roadrunners,

I am writing to provide an update regarding yesterday’s classroom incident and address some of the specific questions and concerns you may have.

We are currently conducting two separate investigations into the matter, one on potential discrimination (conducted by our Office of Equal Opportunity Services) and the other on classroom management (conducted through the Provost’s Office by Interim Dean Grimes in the College of Sciences). Provost Espy and I are committed to ensuring an equitable process for both the student and faculty member. Interim Dean Grimes and our EOS office are working quickly and diligently to gather the facts, and both the student and the faculty member have met separately with those conducting the investigations.

For the best interest of all involved, the faculty member’s classes will be taught by another faculty member for the remainder of the semester. Her students have been informed. The student involved in the incident has been welcomed back to class and offered support services. Once the two investigations are complete next week, appropriate administrative action will be determined.

No matter the outcome of the investigations, the incident shows issues that extend far beyond the events of yesterday. The reactions expressed through social media, emails, phone calls and group meetings I’ve attended confirm that feelings of marginalization on the part of some students—especially our African American students—are real and profound.

The bottom line: regardless of the final outcomes regarding yesterday’s incident, we have an obligation as an institution to take a hard look at our campus climate—especially for students of color—and enact systemic change to make UTSA a more inclusive campus.

Here are my commitments to you, as your president:

We will re-double our efforts to examine how our students from underrepresented groups are treated inside and outside the classroom. We need a fuller understanding and process for reviewing incidents of hostility, discrimination or disrespect, and I will be working with Provost Espy to put those in place. Soon we will release the results of our student diversity survey administered last spring which gives further insights into areas where we are doing well, and areas needing improvement here at UTSA.

We will place a greater emphasis on safe reporting. You may not realize that you can report classroom incidents and concerns safely through our Office of Equal Opportunity Services or UTSA’s Hotline. We will be looking at ways to raise awareness around safe reporting among our students so we can investigate and address issues of discrimination in our classrooms.

We need more faculty, staff and administrators of color on our campus. Provost Espy is working with each of the Deans to accelerate our efforts to increase the diversity of our faculty, and we have set goals to measure our progress. Vice President Anderson will be leading a new initiative focused on this effort to launch this spring. To be successful, this work must permeate every corner of our institution as one of our highest priorities. Our faculty and leadership must reflect the UTSA student community they serve.

I expect to be held accountable in these matters, and expect the same from the entire campus community. I promise to keep you updated both on the outcomes of yesterday’s incident, as well as the broader issues surrounding UTSA’s inclusivity.

Thanks to those of you who have shared your thoughts and concerns with me, and for the genuine care you have for each other and for UTSA.

With appreciation,


Taylor Eighmy

https://www.utsa.edu/today/2018/11/story/EighmyMessage.html

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
71. Absolutely disgusting!!
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:45 PM
Nov 2018

A couple of my kids are graduates of the UT system (not UTSA specifically but other campuses) and they've not seen anything like this. Very disappointing. I'm glad the school dealt with this bigot as they needed to. She is a disgrace to the teaching profession.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
82. Jesus Christ. The professor handled this poorly.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:45 PM
Nov 2018

Within reason, a professor does have the "right" to run the lecture in a manner that she/he deems fit.

All she had to do is smile and say to the student..."Excuse me, please do not put your feet on the chair in front of you. It is distracting to me, and it is unkind to the student who has to sit in that chair next time".

If the student refused, then the professor could say something like "Well, I am not going to continue until you take your feet off the chair. It is now up to you to explain to everyone else in this lecture hall why you are not removing your feet from the chair".

The professor lost control of her lecture as soon as she resorted to calling the cops over something that she should have handled herself.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
84. I work for the University of Texas
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:12 PM
Nov 2018

I don’t imagine this will stand with the Board of Regents.
It is a very inclusive organization that doesn’t tolerate even the hint of racism.

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