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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:42 AM Nov 2018

One part of our Constitution that has become obsolete

It is the "impeachment clause".

Will we ever see a president impeached again?

If Congress cannot impeach and convict under the present circumstances, will it ever happen again?

Republicans point to the Bill Clinton impeachment as the model that proves impeachment fails. But, the difference between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump is like night and day. The circumstances are not the same and should not be used for comparison.

The Executive has grown so powerful in the minds of many in the Legislature that our country has put itself into a situation where it presents a great threat to our country. The Congress needs to take back the power for the people. No one person, especially one that is mentally incapacitated, should hold so much power over our survival.

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One part of our Constitution that has become obsolete (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2018 OP
I disagree Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #1
Impeachment was always rare...only Johnson and Clinton were impeached and no one was Demsrule86 Nov 2018 #2
not obsolete now and will never be obsolete in the future beachbum bob Nov 2018 #3
don't forget Nixon scarytomcat Nov 2018 #4
if we ever get a democratic president with a republican house again, you'll see it's not obsolete... unblock Nov 2018 #5
I'd rather see the 2nd amendment revised or removed....if you're looking for rgbecker Nov 2018 #6

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. I disagree
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:47 AM
Nov 2018

I do not find it to be at all obsolete. It is difficult to accomplish and I believe just as amending the document, it should be so. I would remind you that the impeachment process does not only apply to the president but also to other offices.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
2. Impeachment was always rare...only Johnson and Clinton were impeached and no one was
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:50 AM
Nov 2018

convicted in the Senate. So no president has ever been removed from office via impeachment and conviction. It is not obsolete but purposely made so it would be very very difficult.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
4. don't forget Nixon
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:05 AM
Nov 2018

he probably would have been removed if it had gone to impeachment
he resigned to save face
dump should do the same

unblock

(52,116 posts)
5. if we ever get a democratic president with a republican house again, you'll see it's not obsolete...
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 10:59 AM
Nov 2018

the problem has always been that a house is very reluctant to impeach a president of the same party, so much so that it's never happened, even counting the near-impeachment of nixon.

ironically, when clinton was impeached the conventional wisdom was that impeachment was being reduced from an important power that would be used very rarely to a trivial annoyance that would be routinely used.

rgbecker

(4,820 posts)
6. I'd rather see the 2nd amendment revised or removed....if you're looking for
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:02 PM
Nov 2018

something worthwhile to do.

At least address the open ended phrase "bear arms". WTF?

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