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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:40 AM Nov 2018

Trump and the Republicans have awoken a sleeping mama grizzly bear.

Women, They are pissed and they are organized. My wife never followed politics until Trump was elected. I have never seen her so angry. Like many women my wife focused all her attention on family. That's all she cared about. That changed with Trump. She started paying attention to everything he was saying and doing.

I believe many women see Trump and the Republicans as a direct threat to their families and their children. They see the attacks on our values, morals, healthcare as an attack on their children, their families.

Never piss off a mama grizzly bear if you know what I mean.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
1. I'll believe it when I see it.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 11:47 AM
Nov 2018

Women of color have BEEN Angry and voting Democrat for years. White women tend to vote Republican. They’ll continue to do so as long as their interests include white supremacy.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. I am too, and I'm 76. I feel the same way about
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:17 PM
Nov 2018

republican women AND republicans of color, as well as any people the republicans have demonized.

Rocky888

(297 posts)
5. I've found that every femal republican I've met are as hypocrite as they come.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:22 PM
Nov 2018

And I’m 60 years old, you got me beat.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
6. Just to be clear, only a slight majority of white women vote Republican and educated white women
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:21 PM
Nov 2018

strongly vote Democratic.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,308 posts)
7. I post the way I do because "I believe many women see Trump and the Republicans as a direct threat
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:41 PM
Nov 2018

to their families and their children" ignores the very deep racial divide in the politics of women and makes it difficult to build better campaign and GOTV strategies.

better

(884 posts)
8. More accurately, as long as they *fail to recognize and oppose* white supremacy, among other things.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:42 PM
Nov 2018

I've been married to my white wife for 16 years, and can say with reasonable certainty that her interests do not include white supremacy, nor have they ever. But like Shockey's wife, she did not until somewhat recently pay close enough attention to what's going on and how the Republican Party has changed to recognize why she shouldn't vote for any Republican.

We should keep in mind that even for those whose interests do not include white supremacy, white privilege does have the effect of making it possible to overlook some of the most egregious offenses of the Republicans. Mind you, I do not mean overlook as in ignore or disregard, but rather to not even be aware of. There are many ways in which women of color can have an awareness of what Republicans have been / are doing imposed upon them, even if they're trying to actively ignore politics, simply because they are targeted in ways in which white women are not.

White ignorance of white supremacy efforts and white support of white supremacy efforts are BOTH problems. But they are DIFFERENT problems, afflicting different segments of the white community, and they warrant different remedies.

We are seeing something of an awakening. We saw something similar in the Bush 43 years, as the egregiousness reached a level sufficient to penetrate the awareness of many people who were ordinarily too disengaged to take or change sides. We seem to be seeing the same kind of thing, and on a larger scale now. We saw evidence of this in the immediate aftermath of the 2016 election, most spectacularly and relevant to this topic in the form of the Women's Marches. There is, however, often a lag between egregious actions taken by an administration and public reaction to those actions, especially since we only get to speak with our ballots every other year.

The shift we are starting to see is much slower than those of us who have been paying attention for a long time all recognize that it should be, but we are seeing it. Personally, I think we can maximize the speed and breadth of that shift by carefully differentiating between those who are unaware and those who are aware, but actually either apathetic or malevolent. We should not waste effort on the latter, of course, but we should educate and welcome the former.

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