LA Times says Avenatti's in custody, Avenatti's wife is denying it

[octoberlib]

Link to tweet

Update: Avenatti’s wife says via her attorneys she *did not* make domestic violence claim against Michael and says the TMZ report is false.

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Josh Rubenstein, LAPD’s director of communications, said Avenatti’s arrest Wednesday afternoon stemmed from an incident on the Westside, but he could not provide details until the attorney was formally booked.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-pol-avenatti-police-20181114-story.html


From LAPD Twitter account

Link to tweet

We can confirm that today LAPD Detectives arrested Michael Avenatti on suspicion of domestic violence. This is an ongoing investigation and we will provide more details as they become available.


Was it another woman? I mean, the guy's in custody.

[0rganism]

1. well this is awkward...

wtf is even going on anymore?

[rzemanfl]

2. Stranger and stranger. n/t

[htuttle]

3. In the original report, it mentioned that she supposedly left his apartment wearing sunglasses

...and yelling.

I thought the sunglasses part seemed weird.


Frankly, sounds like it could be the sort of ham-fisted frame up job that Roger Stone was famous for.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

12. Avenatti's turn in the barrel?

[Hortensis]

33. Comes with the territory, I guess.

If he doesn't want this particular kind of attention, there's a simple way to avoid it. Sort of doubt it'll hurt his celebrity attorney career, though.

[spanone]

4. she should know....I'll bet they're people working overtime to take this guy down

the don has spoken

[UniteFightBack]

5. You may have something there......nt

[rzemanfl]

6. Remember the Cambridge Analytica video "We can send women?" n/t

[ariadne0614]

14. Intriguing point n/t

[MontanaMama]

8. I said as much on another thread.

This seems like a set up to me. We’re dealing with the cast from the apprentice after all. If he hit a woman, he needs to go down...but the report of her running out of the building with sunglasses and yelling “I can’t believe you did this to me” on her phone seems like a bad movie scene.

[dixiegrrrrl]

70. Sorta like the Acosta press conference scene.....n/t

[malaise]

28. Ding ding

Watching this carefully

[cornball 24]

7. Set Up!!

[jberryhill]

9. Someone made an incorrect assumption about the alleged victim, apparently

No, the LAPD is unlikely to be making up whether they have someone in custody.

It seems someone made an incorrect assumption without confirming any facts about the alleged victim.

[octoberlib]

11. +1

[rzemanfl]

18. Wasn't the story that the "wife" went back with police to pick up

belongings? Would they not check ID? Too many loose ends.

[jberryhill]

29. TMZ would check ID?

Who is the "they" in your question?

[rzemanfl]

36. The police who supposedly escorted the "wife."

[jberryhill]

45. The police have not released a statement

...other than to state that he's in custody.

TMZ and the LAPD are two different groups of people.

LAPD has said nothing about what happened, who was involved, or anything else other than to confirm the arrest. If you have different information about something the LAPD has said, then what was the name of the LAPD official who said that it was his wife?

[rzemanfl]

50. Too few facts, too many stories. This is going to take time to shake out.

I was questioning the reporting, such as it was. They have now changed the story.

[jberryhill]

51. Yup

[rzemanfl]

46. The are now saying "a woman" not the wife. TMZ wouldn't check the expiration

date on a loaf of bread if a celebrity was involved.

[Honeycombe8]

83. TMZ/Harvey Levin - a friend of Trump's. Part of the Trump Media Machine.

Unreliable as a news source, to put it mildly. Like relying on Breitbart or The National Enquirer.

Harvey Levin used TMZ to help get Trump elected.

Avenatti is an enemy of Trump's. I don't know what happened, but TMZ is not a legitimate news source and is not a place to get facts & truth about a Trump enemy.

[octoberlib]

19. They can't arrest anyone without evidence, can they? I couldn't call the police and say

"Hey, that guy over there hit me and I want to press charges" without providing some evidence?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. If it's a felony arrest they'd have to have probable cause.

So it would seem that there was something that was sufficient to give rise to a good-faith belief on the part of the police that a crime had been committed.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

31. I think you'd be surprised...ESPECIALLY in DV cases.

[redstateblues]

38. Hate to say it, but I've seen it

[Maven]

10. Isn't the sleaze who runs TMZ a big Trump supporter?

If this turns out to be bullshit I expect Avenatti will own TMZ in the not-too-distant future.

[Yosemito]

27. Yes, he is

[MountCleaners]

13. MJ Lee of CNN called Avenatti's wife and she said...

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I'm not a fan of Avenatti, but this "investigation" could be bullshit.

[rzemanfl]

16. Follow the money. This stinks. n/t

[dalton99a]

35. +1

[Doodley]

15. They will find the source of this fake news and it will lead back to the WH.

[Codeine]

17. Fake news?

He’s been arrested.

[rzemanfl]

20. Stormy Daniels was "arrested" too. n/t

[Codeine]

22. Touche. nt

[rzemanfl]

25. This is not going to shake out tonight. The range of possiblities

runs from-

Avennati beat up a girlfriend, to my pimp beat me and said it would be a lot worse if I didn't blame this lawyer dude.

[Pachamama]

37. I think it's the latter possibility

I think there are many people who would like to take Avenatti down.

I think this is a set up

[Doodley]

43. I expect he has got under Trump's skin, perhaps more than anyone.

[SylviaD]

64. I don't care. The man is a fucking scumbag nt

[Doodley]

72. Which man?

[Doodley]

23. Let's see if he is charged.

[helpisontheway]

21. TMZ updated the story and said it was a different woman..not his wife. Nt

[mobeau69]

49. Then who is the woman, TMZ?

Piss poor "journalism" to say the least.

[Celerity]

58. no one ever compared TMZ to the Guardian, lolol

This whole thing is too rushed, I am going to withhold judgement till the facts come out.

[mobeau69]

62. Shouldn't take long.

[2naSalit]

24. Stormy Daniels was arrested in

Ohio under false pretenses. If his wife is calling BS, then it has to be a set up.

[Sunsky]

26. Very strange

I remember the improper arrest of Stormy a few months back. Something doesn't smell right. This is why I reverse judgment until I gather information from numerous reputable sources.

[Heartstrings]

34. +1000

[rzemanfl]

40. "Reserve?" Predictive and autocomplete are inventions of the devil. n/t

[Sunsky]

54. Yup definitely not reverse lol

I hate using the phone to reply sometimes.

[nolabear]

32. Welp, I'm out. I don't know what to believe any more.

CNN says his ex is speaking to them. Coming up at 4:40 PST

[Kaleva]

39. I'm going to wait for more facts before expressing an opinion.

[no_hypocrisy]

41. Having defended a man accused of DV, the system works like this.

Police are called by the wife or ex-wife. Police come out to investigate and make a report. If they suspect something, they can help the wife get a temporary restraining order. Or if there's violence involved, they can make an arrest.

And if the wife/ex-wife changes her mind, she can't withdraw the charges or she can't tell the Police not to arrest her husband/ex. He will be "processed".

Police are not hired to act as judge. They just investigate and start a process.

And it doesn't take a lot to get a temporary restraining order. In my client's case, all it took were some angry retorts via e-mails and a door that wouldn't open (the morning after he banged on it).

[obamanut2012]

53. His ex wife says it didn't happen to her

Did he hit someone and they used his ex's name???

[no_hypocrisy]

68. Your idea is feasible -- or he did have an altercation with his wife

and she retracted the story. The Police wouldn't take him into custody without speaking to the "victim" first.

[MountCleaners]

42. Avenatti's response

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I do think Avenatti hurts his own causes with his behavior, but also fear that too many people are immediately jumping on him without knowing all of the facts. He could just be a jackass but innocent. A lot of liberals are jumping on him on Twitter, and I think that's kind of illiberal. Entirely possible that someone wants to frame him - happens often enough with famous people who've pissed someone off.

[Doodley]

55. Thanks for posting. Which one person do you think Avenatti has pissed off most?

[LiberalLovinLug]

94. " A lot of liberals are jumping on him on Twitter"

See, those Rethug assholes know that we do all the heavy lifting for them. They just have to start the rumour, and we set out in motion the attacks, the demands of confession, the "I told you so's", until by the time he exonerates himself, he's already been found guilty by us. Well guilty enough. He has a bit of a smell now. We don't care anymore if its found out he perhaps just had a heated argument, because that could also be now retroactively construed as 'violence', if we are creative enough in our thinking. And we are so creative.

Just like Al Franken.

First, I hope it is just a set up. Because we need him. Then, if exonerated, I hope I am wrong about the judge jury and executioner, without all the facts, we become sometimes. I have no doubt that even after exhortation, there will still be some even in here that will never trust him. Republicans know it works every time.

[Doodley]

44. If it is found he had been set up and he can show the WH had knowledge, this would be the most

explosive story of the Trump.presidency.

[jberryhill]

47. More likely Tucker Carlson

[Calista241]

56. Nobody in the Trump WH can take a shit without 3 different people leaking about it.

If they could pull this off, with all the media coverage, i would be truly shocked.

[Honeycombe8]

95. CNN said Avenatti WAS arrested, and it has a quote by him....

So something happened.

Attorney Michael Avenatti has been placed under arrest for felony domestic violence and was being booked early Wednesday evening.

Los Angeles Police Department officer Jeff Lee said the domestic violence report was taken on Tuesday in West Los Angeles and the arrest was made Wednesday.

"We can confirm that today LAPD Detectives arrested Michael Avenatti on suspicion of domestic violence. This is an ongoing investigation and we will provide more details as they become available," the LAPD Twitter account posted Wednesday.

In a statement, Avenatti called the allegations "completely bogus."

"I wish to thank the hard working men and woman of the LAPD for their professionalism they were only doing their jobs in light of the completely bogus allegations against me," he said. "I have never been physically abusive in my life nor was I last night. Any accusations to the contrary are fabricated and meant to do harm to my reputation. I look forward to being fully exonerated."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/14/politics/michael-avenatti-arrest/index.html

[Doodley]

104. I don't doubt he WAS arrested. The question is whether the allegations are bogus or not.

[Honeycombe8]

108. Oh. Yes, said they are bogus. But who or what the allegations are specifically are unknown. nt

[GoCubsGo]

48. I smell a rat.

I think that's rat might be named Roger.

[dalton99a]

57. +1

[eleny]

52. The plot thickens

[bdamomma]

59. So what's the

true story??? This will rot if it's true.

[Cha]

60. What!?!

[yodermon]

61. His Ex-Wife just tweeted in his defense:

Link to tweet

I have known @MichaelAvenatti for over 26 years we met when he was 21 years old and we were married for 13 years. Michael has ALWAYS been a kind loving father to our two daughters and husband to me. He has NEVER been abusive to me or anyone else. He is a good man.

[Glimmer of Hope]

67. Weird. Something happened to warrant a arrest?

[Ms. Toad]

112. And how many women came forward to insist that Kavanaugh had never

abused them?

[skylucy]

63. I believed it at first, but now I'm not so sure. Why was it reported to be his ex wife and now the

story has changed. Interested to see what happens next and who the accuser is.

[Leghorn21]

65. Anybody got a handle on Jacob Wohl this evening?!

Whassuppp Jacob?



Shit be cray

[maryellen99]

74. There's this

https://mobile.twitter.com/SurefireIntel/status/1062843160663998465

[MountCleaners]

77. Wohl has commented on this

He tweeted, "Surefire Intelligence strikes again".

Don't know if he is seriously taking responsibility for this, or if he is joking.

[ClearSky24]

91. LOL

Link to tweet

[Power 2 the People]

66. Ughhhhh

Please be false.

[gabeana]

76. Yeah and your post

proves that Misandry is also out and about.
I hate to break it to you, but since women are human they are also capable of lying

by the way Misandry is parallel to misogyny only against men and boys

[gabeana]

81. So no man has ever been taking into custody for doing nothing?

No black man has been falsely accused of rape in this country then castrated put on fire, then hung for all to see

http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1674/sexual-relations-between-elite-white-women-and-enslaved-men-in-the-antebellum-south-a-socio-historical-analysis

little more reading
Even if the young white woman in this story did not consider herself a sexual assaulter (which she probably did not), this is clearly sexually predatory behavior. The kind of relationship described here, which Jacobs suggests was not uncommon, cannot be classified as consensual in any meaningful sense of the word, and in fact constitutes a form of sexual abuse, if not rape. We thus see that plantation mistresses and elite women, like their male counterparts, were able to sexually control and abuse their slaves.

Another way in which white women were able to exercise sexual control over slaves was by threatening to accuse them of rape or attempted rape if they did not agree to sex (Hodes, pp. 39, 40, 43, 46, 135).4 In doing this, elite white women used one of the primary instruments of patriarchal repression—the idea that that they were weak and in need of white male protection, and by extension, in need of control and domination by white men—to exercise racial control over slaves. Instead of attempting to dismantle the white patriarchal hegemony that oppressed both slaves and (to a lesser extent) white women, predatory white women who coerced slaves into sex through threat of rape opted to perpetuate both white supremacy and patriarchy, by reinforcing paternalistic notions of female sexuality.
http://www.inquiriesjournal.com/articles/1674/sexual-relations-between-elite-white-women-and-enslaved-men-in-the-antebellum-south-a-socio-historical-analysis

[Basement Beat]

111. Very important post that needs to be heard and acknowledged.

[lostnfound]

84. Is your sole intention to divide, or are you here to contribute something more? Nt

[LovingA2andMI]

103. Again, It's Post #5 for this person....

Post #5. Umm....

[LovingA2andMI]

102. Post #5....

Umm....

[MountCleaners]

78. I'm a feminist, a woman and a survivor

I don't think it serves us to discourage the liberal principle of wanting to hear all of the evidence before making a judgment.

[rzemanfl]

86. Enjoy your stay. n/t

[rzemanfl]

99. Well, goddess forbid we should lose you. n/t

[USALiberal]

101. Enjoy your short stay! nt

[USALiberal]

88. LOL, 3 posts. Hmmmmmm. nt

[phleshdef]

90. You're embarrassing yourself

[madaboutharry]

71. So both ex-wives defended him.

I guess we will learn tomorrow what the story is.

[Greywing]

73. He's been arrested and I will wait for the real details ... not conjecture from TMZ

No way I would ever have taken Avenatti seriously as a Democratic candidate but I think this is a bit hinky.

I think many of could agree that Senator Al Franken was targeted by conservatives, plain and simple, and there was a rush to judgement on him.

[flibbitygiblets]

79. Stormy was set up, arrested. This could be a repeat.

Too soon to jump to conclusions.

[lostnfound]

85. +1 nt

[rzemanfl]

87. +2. n/t

[lostnfound]

89. Setup for sole purpose of short term story spin to discredit him

Just a guess

[LovingA2andMI]

106. +3

And considering we got strange reactions at our Twitter feed almost immediately when this broke, this smells rotten. Like a possible set up. Waiting for the facts here is likely the best recourse.

[brooklynite]

92. UPDATE: Statement from Avenatti

[cannabis_flower]

100. CNN reported

I haven't seen it on the web yet, but CNN reported on TV that the woman wasn't his wife but another woman.

[orleans]

107. so cnn says it's "another woman" and not his wife

and i'm wondering how much trump or ghoulani is paying someone to make this accusation if it turns out to be bullshit.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

110. That's just it.

The 10 times harder thing that Trump believes he can deliver on. He blamed the fire on mismanagement all but threatening to withhold disaster funding. And republicans took a hard hit in California, so ,who set it up is anybody's guess but know it went down to serve Trump.

[marble falls]

109. So let's start the rumors and inuendo? The cops have to charge him in a day or so, can't we ...

at least wait for some facts?