Sorry but the Michael Avenatti story doesn't pass the smell test.

[Drunken Irishman]

Something isn't adding up. I don't think Avenatti would deny like he has if there was a sliver of truth to this story. He'd use weasel words like, "it's being taken out of context..." or "the situation is misconstrued".

Maybe I'm wrong and maybe he did it. If he did, it'll come out and he'll be gone as he should be but I don't trust the right-wing and their tricksters. I don't trust that the initial story said his wife - I don't like that Jacob Wohl is claiming credit for it. I don't like any of this one bit.

But I guess we'll see.

[dalton99a]

1. It has all the signs of a hit job

[greyl]

2. His tweets on the matter so far tonight:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[uponit7771]

11. So TMZ made the whole thing up ?! Sounds like Red DOn has been coordinating with TMZ.

[Hortensis]

12. Well, AP, NYT, etc., etc., have reported the basics, the police

department verified the arrest and charge. But whatever happened, this is a stupid domestic dispute, and of course those are heavily he said/she said. No one but those involved knows anything about it.

Fwiw, my notion is that this is a private matter, not a public event, and no business of mine.

[peekaloo]

19. Harvey Levin was a big time Trump supporter.

Even freakin' CBS led with the Avenatti story last night although they just had basic details.

[Quixote1818]

3. They accomplish their goal even if he is fully exonerated

If he didn't do anything they get to say over and over and over "Believe the woman". I think that is all this was about. If it's fake they still get to gloat and claim "See, we told you, you can't always believe the woman."


It doesn't matter that they actually broke the law and went WAAAAAAAA out of their way to prove their point, they get to claim he is a hypocrite no matter what the outcome. This is so immoral it's ridiculous but they will relish it even if he didn't do anything and is proven 100% innocent.

[Drunken Irishman]

4. I think that's exactly what they were going for with the Mueller lies...

But it backfired. This, though? Well...

[Quixote1818]

6. It backfired with Mueller big time because he hasn't been in the public eye

attacking Trump and Kavanaugh for their treatment of women. Avenatti is the perfect target for them. They win to an extent, even if they lose. However, if this is proven to be a hit job it will end up backfiring on them. Breaking the law is no laughing matter and this won't be a joke anymore.

[Dorian Gray]

14. Is there a victim right now?

His ex wives seems to say it wasn't them. I'm curious what TMZ will say today about who/what happened... Since they seem to be the first reporters.

If this is a hit job from Jacob Fucking Wohl, then he should be arrested, charged with false conspiracies, etc. That kid sucks so badly.

[former9thward]

18. The police made the charge, not TMZ.

They said the woman, his current GF, had visible injuries on her face.

[LanternWaste]

23. High profile charges are not made in a vacuum, despite how hard you may try...

[OilemFirchen]

24. Sez who?

Here's the LAPD tweet, constituting their entire statement:

Link to tweet

We can confirm that Michael Avenatti (DOB: 02-16-71) was booked this afternoon on a felony domestic violence charge (273.5 PC). His bail is set at $50,000.

[former9thward]

25. Says the LAPD HQ

Read their tweets. You do know, don't you, the police do not make arrests, especially felonies, based on a someone's complaint?

[OilemFirchen]

27. I just posted their tweets.

All two of them, in response to this, from you:

They said the woman, his current GF, had visible injuries on her face.

No they didn't.

[former9thward]

29. Except they did.

Los Angeles Police have not identified the alleged victim but said the person had visible injuries.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/11/15/michael-avenatti-domestic-violence-charge-ex-wives-defend-lawyer/2010175002/

[OilemFirchen]

30. That's a statement from USA Today, not the LAPD.

It's unsourced and, accordingly, irrelevant.

[former9thward]

31. Keeping on digging.

Police didn't immediately disclose details about the arrest incident but Officer Tony Im, an LAPD spokesman, said the victim has visible injuries.

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/2018/11/15/after-arrest-michael-avenatti-denies-la-domestic-violence/

[OilemFirchen]

35. Digging what?

"They said the woman, his current GF, had visible injuries on her face."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11434885

[still_one]

37. As far as I am aware, if someone calls the police reporting a crime, if the police determine there

is evidence of a crime, they will arrest that person and charge them with that crime, and from the sketchy reports that have come out so far, that is what has occurred. That doesn't mean the charges are valid, and the complaint is bogus

[former9thward]

38. The prosecutor will not allow charges to be filed unless they feel

they can prove them beyond a reasonable doubt. The police do not file charges just because someone made a complaint. If that is your understanding it is incorrect. People were cheerleading when Avanetti was a bully in public. It has been my experience that people who are bullies in public are also bullies in private.

[still_one]

39. First of al I am no fan of Avanetti. He was arrested, and someone, a prosecutor, as you said

filed charges against him for domestic abuse.

Are the charges valid or not, I don't know, but I also know that prosecutors have been known to file bogus charges in the past

[former9thward]

40. Well you will get no argument from me on that point.

We will see what happens.

[RockRaven]

5. Time will tell... but regardless it is a reminder that it's worth remembering that

the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend (on that basis alone anyhow) and ought not be treated like a hero or savior unless they earn those monikers apart from your co-incident enmities.

This lesson is especially relevant now with the big House losses we'll be seeing a new batch of anti-Trump GOP sh*tbirds squawking and crapping all over TV, radio, and in print. It is a big mistake to become so pleased that GOPers are turning on Trump that we forget they f*cking GOPers who would burn down everything Democrats hold dear the second they have the chance to do it. They are not our friends, they are not trustworthy, they cannot be worked with in good faith -- they just happen to be sick of Trump too. We can work with that as far as it goes, but let's not misunderstand how far it goes.

As for Wohl, it reminds me a bit of how ISIS would claim credit for every apparent terrorist attack immediately, regardless of whether or not it was really them. Maybe it was them, maybe it wasn't, maybe the truth could be found out quickly, maybe it couldn't.

[PoliticAverse]

7. According to TMZ...

A law enforcement source says on Tuesday, Avenatti "kicked her out of the apartment" and that's when the alleged domestic violence occurred. We're told she went back to the apartment on Wednesday to retrieve her belongings and called police to stand by in case things got heated.

From:
http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/14/michael-avenatti-arrested-domestic-violence-stormy-daniels-attorney/

[OilemFirchen]

34. According to TMZ...

Our law enforcement sources say...

Our sources say...

We're told...

We're told... We're told...

A law enforcement source says...We're told...

We're told....

http://m.tmz.com/#!2018/11/14/michael-avenatti-arrested-domestic-violence-stormy-daniels-attorney/

Gotta love nouveau journalism!

[Cha]

8. I read a quote from here on

DU that he said.. "I have never struck any woman and I never will.." to that effect.

So that's a strong denial.

[FBaggins]

15. I read another

That he told police that she hit him first.

Just the type of contradiction we’ve seen from him before.

[Cha]

16. yeah, I caught a glimpse

of that, too.

If true.. that is beyond stupid.

I haven't really paid that much attention to what he's said after he initially came on the scene. Too many other more important things going on. Like the election and ensuing BLUE WAVES.

[YOHABLO]

9. Does anyone think for one damn minute that these Nazi GOPers don't want to take M.Avenatti down?

Give me a break. Avenatti is on our side folks. Don't forget that.

[uponit7771]

10. +1, I'm sick of hearing the bashing of him on DU with just untrue shit. No doubt there's something

... that sounds wrong about all of this.

Am I correct the ex wife is denying the TMZ report?

[dembotoz]

13. Truth

Let's let this play out
Trust anything the gop says is a challenge
Remember it's the party of trump

[MountCleaners]

17. I'm hoping it's not true

I think Avenatti has an oversized ego, and wish he would censor himself more, but I'm inclined to think it stinks, too.

However, I AM wondering how exactly does one set up a false DV complaint? Doesn't the accused have to be in a relationship with the accuser? If it's a girlfriend or former girlfriend, this could not end well for Avenatti - could end up a "he said, she said".

If he is guilty, then damn him to hell.

[Greybnk48]

21. This story is B.S. On Rachel last night

she ended her show with this story. Avenatti's estranged wife told Rachel's sources that she never called the police, she knew nothing about any of this, and that he never laid a hand on her in anger the entire time they were together.
The L.A. Police were not responding as I recall except to say Avenatti had not been charged with anything.

[Liberal In Texas]

22. And the smell is of a RW smear op.

Even if he is completely cleared, there are low information people who will still believe it.

[DonViejo]

26. What are you apologizing for?

[NurseJackie]

32. It's not meant to be taken as a literal apology. It's a polite colloquialism...

It's not meant to be taken as a literal apology. It's a polite colloquialism directed at a non-specific group of people (or individual) as a preface when expressing a contradicting point of view. Surely you've heard it before. Maybe it's just a Southern or Mid-Atlantic thing.

[DonViejo]

33. Ah! Thanks NJ! eom

[Blue Owl]

28. The simple fact that "Surefire" (or whatever the fuck it's called) is connected to it...

is enough for me to declare BULLSHIT...

[VOX]

36. Trump's #1 Twitter toadie Jacob Wohl's Surefire Intelligence is mixed up in this.

So the reek of bullshit is overpowering.