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demmiblue

(36,833 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:41 AM Nov 2018

Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on...

Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on the Roof'

A man shouted a pro-Nazi and pro-Trump salute during a performance of “Fiddler on the Roof” at Baltimore’s Hippodrome Theatre on Wednesday night in an outburst that some audience members feared was the beginning of a shooting.

Audience member Rich Scherr said the outburst happened during intermission. The man, who had been seated in the balcony, began shouting “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump.” Immediately after that, “People started running,” Scherr said. “I’ll be honest, I was waiting to hear a gunshot. I thought, ‘Here we go.’ ”

The man was escorted out a few minutes later and the show continued. But Scherr, 49, said it was hard to focus on the play after that. “My heart was just racing. I didn’t even really pay attention to the second act.”

“Fiddler” tells the story of a Jewish family as it faces persecution in tsarist Russia. It’s based on “Tevye the Dairyman,” a fictional story originally written in Yiddish. The play opened Tuesday and runs through Sunday in Baltimore. A spokesman for the Hippodrome could not be reached late Wednesday.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html#
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Man shouts 'Heil Hitler, Heil Trump' during intermission of Baltimore performance of 'Fiddler on... (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2018 OP
Thanks Don the Con malaise Nov 2018 #1
Trump has succeeded in embolding the deplorables. Its really that simple. olegramps Nov 2018 #22
I had a personal encounter wiyhca Nazi at a Golden Corral grantcart Nov 2018 #37
Jeez, what next? Cheering for the Nazis in The Sound of Music? tanyev Nov 2018 #2
I would have thought the same - a shooting about to start. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #3
In some places this is similar to crying out 'FIRE!' in a crowded forum and they'll be charged w/... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #51
Fucker should have had his lights punched out. backscatter712 Nov 2018 #4
+1 LuckyCharms Nov 2018 #5
Exactly. Let him shout through a couple Codeine Nov 2018 #6
Or tossed from the balcony. Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #24
I agree ellie Nov 2018 #31
After being pelted with rotten tomatoes Blue Owl Nov 2018 #32
Exactly. geardaddy Nov 2018 #34
Nazis should get their asses stomped. snort Nov 2018 #39
Really, I want to hear that he was escorted out and had the living shit beat out of him. harumph Nov 2018 #7
I think there ought to be some legal consequences for causing that disruption Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #11
To be clear, I would not "approve in advance" his being beat up - OTOH -I would not shed a tear harumph Nov 2018 #12
No your second thought is best and we do not need martyrs for deplorables lunasun Nov 2018 #18
+1 nt flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #27
+1 demmiblue Nov 2018 #21
Shouting "fire" billh58 Nov 2018 #38
Hate crime definition in Maryland... RobertDevereaux Nov 2018 #42
Seems like that could apply here too Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #46
Asshole ruining the show for everyone Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2018 #8
That's outrageous. This wouldn't have happened a couple of years ago. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #9
Or people with yellow, red, brown or black skin . Or who they love lunasun Nov 2018 #19
I've never understood hatred of Jews. I don't get it. I mean, why? It's not like I see their reasons packman Nov 2018 #45
I know about that reason for some evangelists... Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #47
Fiddler is a story about Jews being persecuted NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #10
He's more than an "ass" or "idiot" although he is both. harumph Nov 2018 #13
crowded theater - Jewish themes - sounds like a terroristic threat harumph Nov 2018 #15
I have a subscription at this theatre and I'm seeing Fiddler on Sunday. OliverQ Nov 2018 #14
Just go. Have fun. johnp3907 Nov 2018 #26
Oh, no. But I can understand. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #48
Remember the final scene in Inglorious Bastards.....nt Hotler Nov 2018 #16
Give him something he can't take off... backscatter712 Nov 2018 #28
Remember how the BearJew delt with Nazis? ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #41
They say he was "escorted out". WTF? Texin Nov 2018 #17
He should have been tossed from the balcony down to the orchestra pit and THEN escorted out. n/t DFW Nov 2018 #25
'Heil trump' that must make don especially proud. spanone Nov 2018 #20
It's sad that shootings have become so commonplace that we expect it IronLionZion Nov 2018 #23
The writer of the Tevye tales was Sholem Aleichem--"peace be with you" Maeve Nov 2018 #29
He needs to be outed and banned. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #30
At least on of their own compared Trump to Hitler world wide wally Nov 2018 #33
There's something about theatres and balconies Chipper Chat Nov 2018 #35
Some say that these guys are born with wings. snort Nov 2018 #43
For this guy, I'm game to find out... backscatter712 Nov 2018 #50
... Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #36
Simple solution Racerdog1 Nov 2018 #40
They're not even trying to hide it anymore. Initech Nov 2018 #44
Depraved+brazen equals stupid and that's the good news. littlemissmartypants Nov 2018 #49
Has he been identified yet? nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #52

SWBTATTReg

(22,093 posts)
51. In some places this is similar to crying out 'FIRE!' in a crowded forum and they'll be charged w/...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 02:33 PM
Nov 2018

a crime. This is criminal.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. Fucker should have had his lights punched out.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 09:55 AM
Nov 2018

The moment people figure out he doesn't have a gun, that's an appropriate time to cold-cock him.

harumph

(1,896 posts)
7. Really, I want to hear that he was escorted out and had the living shit beat out of him.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:21 AM
Nov 2018

and if it was some "performance art" bullshit - well too frickin bad - dolt.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
11. I think there ought to be some legal consequences for causing that disruption
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:27 AM
Nov 2018

People paid to see a show and have a good time and that guy ruined it. I don't think he should be beat up, but I'd like to see him have pay some money to compensate people for that.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
18. No your second thought is best and we do not need martyrs for deplorables
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:53 AM
Nov 2018

$$ makes them notice .
Sue to have him reimburse all ticket holders for the event . Who could enjoy the play after thinking you were going to get shot or even having Hitler praised at Fiddler on the Roof ??
Their evening and the event were ruined

RobertDevereaux

(1,853 posts)
42. Hate crime definition in Maryland...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:06 PM
Nov 2018

I know he was booted out of the theatre.

But I HOPE he was arrested and charged with a hate crime.

And if not, he should be identified and charged!

In Maryland, this definition:
%%%%
In Maryland, a criminal act is considered a hate crime if it's intended to hurt or threaten a person, or damage their property, because of a person's:
Race
Color
National Origin
Gender and/or Gender Identity
Religion
Sexual Orientation
Disability
Homeless Status
%%%%

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
46. Seems like that could apply here too
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:09 PM
Nov 2018

Because it was an obvious anti-Jewish message at play about Jewish people... probably had some Jewish people in audience.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. That's outrageous. This wouldn't have happened a couple of years ago.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:24 AM
Nov 2018

Trump has unleashed all the hate in the country that was lurking beneath the surface. I can understand why the people were scared, thinking there was going to be another mass shooting, but I would have preferred if the audience would have stood up and shouted him down. But I probably would've thought the same thing they did...another mass shooting.

And you know...the hater's ticket for that play can't have been cheap. He actually paid money to be able to insult what he figured would be a group of Jewish people.

Fiddler on the Roof, just so haters know, is universally loved and is not attended just by Jews. My family watched this movie every time it came on tv, and I believe my mother had the album. We kids knew all the words to all the songs. One of the great Broadway musicals. We are not Jewish.

I've never understood hatred of Jews. I don't get it. I mean, why? It's not like I see their reasons, but disagree. I don't even see a reason for them to base hate on. It's like if a group of people decided they were going to hate, oh, people with green eyes. Just for the heck of it. No particular reason. Just to hate people with green eyes.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
45. I've never understood hatred of Jews. I don't get it. I mean, why? It's not like I see their reasons
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:08 PM
Nov 2018

It's the twisted Jesus being crucified thing. In their twisted logic, being a "good" Christian is accepting that the Jewish leadership, and by extension, the Jewish people are responsible for the death of Christ and knowingly, willingly did so. This is drummed into their psyche from the beginning of indoctrination into the Church's catechism. Pilate washed his hands at the judgment of Jesus, but the Jewish crowd demanded his whipping, humiliation, and death telling Pilate that they willingly accept the blood-guilt, an echo of the Gospel of Matthew, which has the same crowd shouting ‘his blood be on us and our children!’ These claims formed a basis for Christian persecution of the Jews right up to modern times.



Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
47. I know about that reason for some evangelists...
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:26 PM
Nov 2018

but many who are not religious just hate Jews, citing their greed, and other stereotypical things. It's not about religion.

But I do understand that for some, it's the religious thing. But I don't think that's the reason for most, and definitely not the KKK & white supremacists. Maybe it's just that it's a different culture, and originally had some Middle Eastern blood (I don't know if that's still the case).

Look at how they were treated in the Godless Russia. And the Nazis, though they used religion to control the masses, were not religious.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. Fiddler is a story about Jews being persecuted
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:24 AM
Nov 2018

at the start of the Russian Revolution...

so, this person paid for admission to a Jewish story to yell "Heil Hitler" and "Heil Trump"

What an ass. What an idiot.

harumph

(1,896 posts)
15. crowded theater - Jewish themes - sounds like a terroristic threat
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:40 AM
Nov 2018

from wikipedia

Generally, a terroristic threat "is sufficiently specific where it threatens death or great bodily injury, and a threat is not insufficient simply because it does not communicate a time or precise manner of execution. Thus, a criminal statute prohibiting terroristic threatening serves to criminalize future, as well as present, death threats."[3]

The courts have held that "a threat need not take any particular form or be expressed in any particular words, and may be made by innuendo or suggestion, and that the words uttered will not be considered in a vacuum but rather in light of all the circumstances."[4]

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
14. I have a subscription at this theatre and I'm seeing Fiddler on Sunday.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:38 AM
Nov 2018

Kinda nervous to go. They have some security who check bags, but no metal detectors. This guy was near where my seat is.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
41. Remember how the BearJew delt with Nazis?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:04 PM
Nov 2018

Yeah, that is suitable for this asshole. Sick of these fuckers.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
17. They say he was "escorted out". WTF?
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 10:52 AM
Nov 2018

He should have been removed by the police in cuffs and taken to jail awaiting arraignment for disorderly conduct and assault.

DFW

(54,325 posts)
25. He should have been tossed from the balcony down to the orchestra pit and THEN escorted out. n/t
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:07 AM
Nov 2018

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
23. It's sad that shootings have become so commonplace that we expect it
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:04 AM
Nov 2018

very disappointing that this asshole chose to deliberately provoke people. Baltimore has a large Jewish population and probably had many in the audience.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
29. The writer of the Tevye tales was Sholem Aleichem--"peace be with you"
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 11:27 AM
Nov 2018

I remember reading a translation of them back when Fiddler was still the longest running Broadway musical (now down to 16th).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholem_Aleichem

He was often referred to as the "Jewish Mark Twain" because of the two authors' similar writing styles and use of pen names. Both authors wrote for adults and children and lectured extensively in Europe and the United States. When Twain heard of the writer called "the Jewish Mark Twain," he replied "please tell him that I am the American Sholem Aleichem."

littlemissmartypants

(22,628 posts)
49. Depraved+brazen equals stupid and that's the good news.
Thu Nov 15, 2018, 12:40 PM
Nov 2018

I didn't think about the possibility of a shooting. I don't know if that means I'm also stupid or just a diehard Pollyanna. I don't agree with the violence as a punishment option. I'm a pacifist. I do think if a law exists that is applicable in this case it should be applied. The civilized members of the audience should seek like minds and band together to seek a remedy other than just showing him the door. Public shaming is never over rated.

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