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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:49 AM Nov 2018

And I Am LOVING It!

I am absolutely loving where the Republican party is right now. To say they’re stuck between nothing but rocks and hard places would be the understatement of the decade.

They enabled Trump. They covered for his stupidity, his racism, his misogyny, his corruption. They Trump-‘splained his ludicrous statements and tweets. Not only did they accept his obvious lies, they themselves lied in order to protect him.

What the GOP had confirmed for them on November 6th was that their “pResident” isn’t the vote-getter he claims to be, and that his much-touted “base” couldn’t keep the House in Republican (and Trump’s) hands. What got shoved in their face was the fact that the majority of Trump-endorsed candidates lost their races.

Which brings us to where the GOP is right now.

The Republicans now know that their “pResident” isn’t the draw he was in 2016. They also now know that he will be investigated by Democrats – and are probably shitting themselves over what might be exposed as a result. They also now know that the country is rejecting Trump’s policies, and want a check on his outrageous behaviour.

So now we cut to the chase.

Come January, political parties will launch their campaigns for the 2020 presidential election – which means the Republicans are going to have to start campaigning for a man they now know to be a loser. They are looking at two years of having to enthusiastically support a man who is already steeped in scandal, and who will undoubtedly be the subject of even more scandals between now and November 2020.

And then there’s the Mueller investigation, the findings of which will – one way or another – be revealed in the midst of the GOP trying to rally the troops to re-elect their lying, corrupt “pResident”.

I keep hearing that the Republican senate will never impeach Trump – and that may be so. But if Mueller’s probe produces proof of crimes and misdemeanours, confirms collusion with the Russians, exposes Trump’s tax fraud, money-laundering, or other criminal activity, the lack of impeachment will be a moot point in the context of trying to get Trump re-elected. I could be wrong, but ”Sure he’s a Russian-colluding crook, but vote for him anyway” doesn’t strike me as a winning campaign strategy.

So that’s where the GOP finds itself tonight: facing two years of trying to promote the re-election of someone they can’t possibly believe is re-electable, two more years of defending the increasingly indefensible, two more years of fruitless attempts to Trump-‘splain the daily spewing of lies, two more years of trying to get ahead of the latest scandal before the next one inevitably hits the headlines.

And then there’s Trump himself – the worst enemy the Republican party has ever faced, the man who insisted that the party’s focus in the midterms should be the caravan of smallpox-and-leprosy carrying terrorists about to invade the country, the man who shocked the nation – and the world – by refusing to participate in ceremonies honouring fallen US soldiers twice in one weekend on both the national and international stage, the man who continues to spew unhinged tweets that undermine the carefully-crafted memes that Republican powers-that-be put all of their efforts into advancing.

Like I said, there’s nothing but rocks and hard places ahead for the GOP – and I take unbridled delight in all of it. What I can’t help but ponder is how many Republicans are looking back on the past two years and realizing that all of their enabling, all of their covering up, all of their lying, and their eager willingness to abandon every principle they once laid claim to was all for naught.

All they’ve wound up with is a party obligation to stand by their man fully knowing that as bad as things are right now, they will only get worse.

The damage Trump has done to the country is inestimable. The damage he’s done to the Republican party is priceless. Much of what Trump has done to our nation can be undone. But what Trump has done to the GOP will last for a very, very, very long time.

That thought warms my heart, as I anxiously await the first Republican pundit to appear on a political news show and state – with a straight face and as much enthusiasm as they can muster – that re-electing a lying, corrupt, unhinged madman is a really good idea.

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And I Am LOVING It! (Original Post) NanceGreggs Nov 2018 OP
I am curious to see who will primary him vlyons Nov 2018 #1
Jeff Flake and Kaisch are my bets obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #12
Ironic enid602 Nov 2018 #29
Mueller's dance card is going to be full for a long long time green917 Nov 2018 #30
If Romney says to protect Mueller bdjhawk Nov 2018 #34
Base enid602 Nov 2018 #44
abandon every principle they once laid claim to Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #2
Unlike Republicans ... NanceGreggs Nov 2018 #3
I can't wait for the new Congress to be sworn in! lunatica Nov 2018 #4
You covered all the bases. Scarsdale Nov 2018 #5
I know, right! It only took us Cha Nov 2018 #6
Only two horrible years . . . and another wild year, [at least], in which empedocles Nov 2018 #8
I hate to be a wet blanket when we just swept those House races, but Trump can win again... PBass Nov 2018 #7
For the record ... NanceGreggs Nov 2018 #9
Have a look at the blue tsunami data malaise Nov 2018 #11
Right on, brother..RIGHT ON!! AZ8theist Nov 2018 #35
Sister malaise Nov 2018 #37
Oh, so, sooo sorry...... AZ8theist Nov 2018 #41
No biggie malaise Nov 2018 #42
80% of a shrinking minority ain't much The Blue Flower Nov 2018 #15
THIS! Silver Gaia Nov 2018 #17
That minority of 1 in 3 Nazi-Americans better be shrinking damned fast FiveGoodMen Nov 2018 #32
With how divided this country is, & with the way people are voting along party lines these days mtnsnake Nov 2018 #38
"We plan to boof our way to victory. It's one of our core values." - KGOP republicans Achilleaze Nov 2018 #10
"boofer base", love it. yonder Nov 2018 #31
That is why I think the gop Senate will remove him if impeached. docgee Nov 2018 #13
Never happen. AZ8theist Nov 2018 #36
Bravo Nance! BlueJac Nov 2018 #14
It's a long-running sell-out by Republicans. kentuck Nov 2018 #16
drumph will have to be dragged out by his pubic hair but he will try to cut a massive deal first BSdetect Nov 2018 #18
trump may well destroy the GOP Gothmog Nov 2018 #19
I want to see a bumper sticker... TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #20
Kicked&Recommended! coconut22 Nov 2018 #21
Yep 👍 sheshe2 Nov 2018 #22
The economy Johnny2X2X Nov 2018 #23
Some Republicans knew this was coming, and decided not to run Stuart G Nov 2018 #24
Is it too soon to yearn for a 1974 repeat? libdem4life Nov 2018 #25
21-54 underpants Nov 2018 #26
Great post as usual. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #27
Right on! Hugin Nov 2018 #28
Well done, this about sums it up: yonder Nov 2018 #33
I've heard so many Christians say they... Trueblue Texan Nov 2018 #39
Same here mtnsnake Nov 2018 #40
They (repugs) earned every rock, and every hard place. warmfeet Nov 2018 #43
Yes...yes...and yes amuse bouche Nov 2018 #45
If he isn't hauled off in chains The Wizard Nov 2018 #46
Nance, you did it again!! ailsagirl Nov 2018 #47
This is one trainwreck that I want front row tickets for! Initech Nov 2018 #48
At some level I share your anticipation, but I'm more circumspect about this. They are chameleons. JudyM Nov 2018 #49
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Nov 2018 #50
kick Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #51
Fantastic rant as usual. The deplorable two-step onit2day Nov 2018 #52
A very different kind of post for you Nance LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #53

enid602

(8,614 posts)
29. Ironic
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:20 PM
Nov 2018

The republicans can run Mueller as an Eisenhower Republican. Eisenhower saved us from the Nazis, and they’ll say that Mueller saved us from the Russkies.

green917

(442 posts)
30. Mueller's dance card is going to be full for a long long time
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:30 PM
Nov 2018

There is so much criminal malfeasance that Robert Mueller will be prosecuting these cases for years to come. He won't have time to run for president on top of the fact that the base of the party (which now belongs to trump) will never support Mueller.

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
34. If Romney says to protect Mueller
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:31 PM
Nov 2018

And tries to be the great statesman, I’d put him on the list of possibilities, too.

enid602

(8,614 posts)
44. Base
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:35 PM
Nov 2018

The base of the party will leave trump once he cuts SS and Medicare. The tax cuts to the wealthy were needed to starve these programs.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
2. abandon every principle they once laid claim to
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:11 AM
Nov 2018

"Laid claim to" is not quite the same as "had", is it? I love it! Thank you.

In many cases, they abandoned the pretense of principle or turned a principle on its head in order to cuddle up to the Crybaby Don.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
3. Unlike Republicans ...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:24 AM
Nov 2018

... I believe words matter, and I choose mine accordingly.

"Laid claim to" IS very different than "had".

Thanks for noticing the difference between the two.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. I can't wait for the new Congress to be sworn in!
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:26 AM
Nov 2018

I honestly think some Republicans will stop supporting him and help pass some decent legislation. All of them have to be thinking of their own elections in the future.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
5. You covered all the bases.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:45 AM
Nov 2018

Sadly, tRump was the "cream of the crop" when the entire gop was running!! He WILL drag many of them down with him. We not only got stuck with tRump, but his entire family, nude "model" and all. What a joke. Not a smart, honest, hard worker among them. I hope Pence, McConnell, Ryan and others are all caught up in the Russian money investigation. I wonder if they feel it was all worth it, so they could get tax cuts for themselves and other wealthy people?

Cha

(297,154 posts)
6. I know, right! It only took us
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:46 AM
Nov 2018

two horrible long Deplorable years to get here.. not knowing if we'd succeed or not.

But, here we are in all its Surreal Glory!

Thanks, Nance for helping us get it here with a modicum of sanity

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
8. Only two horrible years . . . and another wild year, [at least], in which
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:32 AM
Nov 2018

some incredible 'clean up' is possible. Thank you all.

PBass

(1,537 posts)
7. I hate to be a wet blanket when we just swept those House races, but Trump can win again...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:30 AM
Nov 2018

Trump has captured the GOP and has over 80% approval rating with Republicans.

In contrast (and this is anecdotal, but still) I see no consensus among Democrats on who they will support in 2020. The rift between the Bernie and Hillary factions still seems raw and painful. And on social media, I see comments like "I would never vote for Elizabeth Warren, she sold out when she endorsed Shillary!" or "I would never vote for Kirsten Gillibrand, after what she did to Al Franken!". "Cory Booker is a corporate Dem!" etc etc.

It's still extremely early, and a lot can change. But Republican voters will turn out en masse, with no holdouts refusing on the grounds that they "refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils". I'm not convinced that Democratic voters can do the same. I certainly hope so... Trump doesn't just deserve to lose, he deserves to lose in a humiliating, historical landslide. Because of voter suppression, gerrymandering, etc, the fact is that we will need every possible Democratic vote to defeat Trump, and right now the Democratic voters seem to be in disarray.

I hope this isn't too negative, because we all definitely need a hopeful vision for the future, after the last two years of Trump scandals, racism, corruption and ineptitude.

AZ8theist

(5,456 posts)
41. Oh, so, sooo sorry......
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:54 PM
Nov 2018

I only assumed because of the BM avatar...
My bad.
Never again. I love your posts.

I'm with you all the way.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
32. That minority of 1 in 3 Nazi-Americans better be shrinking damned fast
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:25 PM
Nov 2018

Or there's still plenty of danger.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
38. With how divided this country is, & with the way people are voting along party lines these days
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:50 PM
Nov 2018

I think Trump should be very concerned that he has ONLY 80% approval rating with republicans at this point in time. For those assholes to win in 2020, I think they would need 100% approval rating among those idiots to even have a chance. As long as Democrats show up at the polls to vote, they will be fucked next time. Plus, by 2020, I would bet anything that half the independents who voted for LardAss in 2016 will be voting for ANYONE but him next time.

I do agree with you that there is still much to be concerned about as far as unity in our Party. We really do need to work on that and get our act together ASAP. Good post, BTW.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
10. "We plan to boof our way to victory. It's one of our core values." - KGOP republicans
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:41 AM
Nov 2018

The KGOP republicans are the party of boofers. They are counting on their barf-solid boofer base to keep their greazy fingers on the Buttons of Power.

docgee

(870 posts)
13. That is why I think the gop Senate will remove him if impeached.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:36 AM
Nov 2018

It's their only play if Mueller produces uncontrovertible evidence. They would never recover if they went with tRump all the way to 2020. I mean that's ok with me. It's a lose - lose situation for them. We just have to suffer a little while longer.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
16. It's a long-running sell-out by Republicans.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:02 AM
Nov 2018

Before Trump, it was the Tea Party. It didn't matter what they stood for, so long as it was politically advantageous.

I'm beginning to think it may be more harmful for politicians to be against impeachment?

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
18. drumph will have to be dragged out by his pubic hair but he will try to cut a massive deal first
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:51 AM
Nov 2018

I hope the Dems go after him on his "retirement package"

No security for life or any other perks
No pension
Seize all his assets however hidden

And prison for life


etc

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
23. The economy
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:53 PM
Nov 2018

Trump road the Obama economy for almost 2 years now. We're heading into a recession, there will be nowhere for Republicans to hide from it. They will own it, Trump will own it.

It will be here some time in 2019 and will a main issue in 2020 whether it's still here or not.

Can you imagine the wipe out that would have happened last week had it arrived early?

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
24. Some Republicans knew this was coming, and decided not to run
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 03:55 PM
Nov 2018

Some well known Republicans decided not to run this time. Perhaps they sensed this was coming, and didn't want to even be around for the disaster. Like a category 5 hurricane is heading to your town. No escape when it is there, you get out a long time before it is even close.
..After a while, most of us get sick of a loud mouth especially if that mouth is very rude and disrespectful to everyone. Some loud ones, still retain respect and some dignity to others, they are just too fucking loud
...Trump has all the qualities of a mean, rude, totally insensitive loud mouth. He defines it. I don't think he will run for re-election. Like everything else, some strange shit is going to happen. No, I don't know, but I don't think Trump will run for re-election, one way or another...

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
25. Is it too soon to yearn for a 1974 repeat?
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:02 PM
Nov 2018

It's a classic Catch-22 for Congressional Republicans. How long can they hold out as the Committee Investigations, more indictments and jail sentences proceed? The fact of Ryan, Flake, Chaffetz and others who had such promise in the party to leave, voluntarily...they know things. I'm not surprised that the others are political ostriches and fail to see the writing on the wall.

I think the pressure between the party that buckled to The Cretin and the "dark and foul mood" in the WH is a recipe for the end coming much sooner than 2020. Can't help but think a lot of that Republican approval rating is getting softer, and it's the Congress folk who will, out of necessity, begin to assess the wavering boundaries.

Great article.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
26. 21-54
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:07 PM
Nov 2018

Trump endorsed 75 candidates (mostly is safe red states and districts) 54 of them lost. That, at least, is the last count I read.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
27. Great post as usual.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:15 PM
Nov 2018

Trump was never a draw, even in 2016. He lost the popular vote by almost 3 million voters to Hillary and something like over 8 million people voted for 3rd party candidates. Trump, with the help of Russian propaganda, voter suppression, Comey, and possible elections fraud squeaked out an electoral college win by about 77,000 votes across 3 states.

He is popular for ratings but the reality is that he never was anything special. As you said, his act is now stale. He continues to have his cult followers, but he isn't bringing anyone new to the rolls and has chased away anyone decent who might have been caught up in the populism of his early candidacy.

I too await the strategy of re-election. Talk about lipstick on a pig.

yonder

(9,663 posts)
33. Well done, this about sums it up:
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:27 PM
Nov 2018

"The damage Trump has done to the country is inestimable. The damage he’s done to the Republican party is priceless."

Trueblue Texan

(2,425 posts)
39. I've heard so many Christians say they...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:54 PM
Nov 2018

...believe it was "God's plan" to put Trump in the presidency. I'm an Atheist, but I'm starting wonder if maybe those Christians aren't right. Maybe I'll become a believer yet...

Prolly not, but I could believe there could be some divine plan to destroy the evil Republican party.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
40. Same here
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:54 PM
Nov 2018

I'm taking great pleasure in watching them be miserable, especially Trump, and I can't wait until it gets ten times worse for all of them, which I think is going to happen. Corrupt rotten assholes, all of them, and all devoid of any empathy for others.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
43. They (repugs) earned every rock, and every hard place.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:16 PM
Nov 2018

Democrats, progressives and liberals prevail.

That is my hope, my dream, and my purpose.

No time to lose.

2020 and beyond!

We can do it.

DO IT.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
46. If he isn't hauled off in chains
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:15 PM
Nov 2018

he'll declare a national emergency and cancel all elections until further notice. Was he paid by the DNC to implode the Republican Party?
Everything changes once the lying starts. And this lying isn't about a sexual dalliance, but rather subverting the electoral process aided and abetted by a hostile foreign power. Last I heard the punishment for treason involves a blindfold and cigarette.

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
49. At some level I share your anticipation, but I'm more circumspect about this. They are chameleons.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:38 AM
Nov 2018

And they are adept at marketing themselves and their boldfaced lies.

I fear they will simply bluff their way out of this history, giving cover for their whole base to re-elect them.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
53. A very different kind of post for you Nance
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 03:56 AM
Nov 2018

I love it. It is a bit of a calm before the storm when we can celebrate some kind of advancement towards a sane stable future. No brilliant bitter sarcasm, no well deserved righteous pontification, although you do both so well. Just a pause to reflect that we finally have a bit of a rock to grab to climb the mountain. Thanks.

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