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wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:37 PM Aug 2012

We won't change your benefits if you are over 55-Romney

Want to bet if they get in it will be an immediate attack on medicare and social security. Remind every senior that this is a man who won't show his tax returns and said he lived in his son's basement in order to vote in MA and he had to redo his taxes to say he was a resident in MA. Would you trust a man who won't show you his tax returns? Every other presidential candidate has.

Tell every senior

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gordianot

(15,237 posts)
1. It is surely a call to idiots like my brother who is 51 and willing to vote for Romney & hates Obama
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:42 PM
Aug 2012

I would not count on him changing.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
2. They Are Counting, Sir, On Old People Not Giving a Damn About their Children
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:51 PM
Aug 2012

The 'plan' does indeed claim it will leave the present system in place for everyone fifty-five and older, with the voucher system coming only when people now fifty-four or younger reach eligibility age. The vouchers will be for an amount well below the actual costs of insurance, and are set to rise in a proportion much less than the rates at which insurance prices are expected to rise, so that in practice most retirees will not be able to acquire adequate insurance, if they can acquire any, though doubtless fraudsters will spring like toadstools to collect the vouchers without providing any real coverage. Above this, there will be the fact that exclusion for 'pre-existing conditions' will be allowed, and very few people will reach retirement age without something previously diagnosed that most insurance companies would consider grounds to refuse to sell them coverage.

They are honestly expecting old people to support this plan, knowing full well it is designed to screw, blue, and tattoo their sons and daughters, grand-children, nephews, nieces, what have you. Ryan and Romney and the rest of the Republicans are counting on older Americans being such selfish &^%**#s that they will not give a damn what happens to their kids so long as they have theirs....

"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
7. Or they are counting on those without children to not give a damn about their neighbors'
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 03:12 PM
Aug 2012

children.

There are a great number of people age 55 and older who never had any children or grandchildren.

There are also some age 55 and older who had children but became divorced and embittered and angry at their children by being obligated to pay their ex-spouses amounts child support.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
8. Or, for those who are childless, "would you mind helping us throw your neighbors kids and
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 03:17 PM
Aug 2012

grandkids" under the bus?

Based upon your own experiences, you may even know persons age 55 and older who not only not give a damn about those who are younger but even have a sense of animosity towards them.

Have you ever been down to Florida and ever encountered elderly Republican voters who never had any children or grandchildren? Some are down there as well as in other states.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
5. Guess what, ass?
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:57 PM
Aug 2012

We'll be changing YOUR benefits. No more 'at least 13%' for you.



DISCLAIMER: I am calling Romney an ass, not Wilt the Stilt. I am not aware of Mr. Stilt's assness, so am not qualified to comment. As far as I'm concerned, he's a lovely person.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
6. Either 1) all seniors have children and grandchildren or 2) a sufficient number of Republican-voting
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

senior do not have such offspring and have only been selfishly thinking about themselves all of their lives.

The outcome of Rmoney's appeal may come down to this.

No one should mistakenly believe that all seniors, or a great majority, will automatically vote for Obama and reject Rmoney's appeal to modify Social Security in a way that will protect those age 55 and older while only adversely affecting those under the age of 55.

No one, as an example, should automatically assume that most elderly voters in Florida will vote for Obama. Which type of candidates have they voted for in the past? Democrats? Or Republicans, including Jeb Bush?

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