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catbyte

(34,376 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:35 PM Nov 2018

Oh, dear God. the stupidity, it burns...



"You gotta take care of the floors. You know the floors of the forest,very important...I was with the President of Finland...he called it a forest nation and they spent a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things and they don't have any problem."

3:43 PM - Nov 17, 2018

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Oh, dear God. the stupidity, it burns... (Original Post) catbyte Nov 2018 OP
Raking and cleaning... 131,000 square miles of forest, mountains, and lakes... RockRaven Nov 2018 #1
"Raking and cleaning"... And stuff. Don't forget the stuff. Living wage? Republicans Hiring? Wintryjade Nov 2018 #4
That much doesn't have to be done. Blue_true Nov 2018 #6
not good for wildlife, though Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #7
I over estimated the size of buffer zones. Blue_true Nov 2018 #13
Look at Malibu. There is a great buffer zone to the west. wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #8
There are exceptions to everything. Blue_true Nov 2018 #14
He is a tsumani of stupidity. guillaumeb Nov 2018 #2
Except that they don't rake the forests in Finland The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #3
It's had to fathom, but the orange anus more sense during the debates Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #5
His idiocy Ohiogal Nov 2018 #9
Give credit to Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom for trying to behave question everything Nov 2018 #10
"...and doing things." He really does have all the best words. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #11
What makes him think he's got to say something?? Shut the fuck up...Moron,,and you will do better.. Stuart G Nov 2018 #12
He always feels he needs to weigh in, when he should be listening Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #15
Great God...you used a word Trump does not know........."listen"...from "listening" Stuart G Nov 2018 #16
Well, I know a place he could learn Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #17
This quote from Plato seems appropriately applied to Tiny Toadstool. Different Drummer Nov 2018 #18

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
1. Raking and cleaning... 131,000 square miles of forest, mountains, and lakes...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:38 PM
Nov 2018

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. That much doesn't have to be done.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:47 PM
Nov 2018

Create buffer zones around populated areas and make safe escape routes. That cuts the area down to maybe 1/20th. I hate to say it, but if executed properly, the concept can make a positive difference.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
7. not good for wildlife, though
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:25 PM
Nov 2018

We are constantly told to leave our gardens and yards kinda mess with leaves and debris to help the birds and small critters.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. I over estimated the size of buffer zones.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:34 PM
Nov 2018

To protect people and domesticated animals 1/100th to 1/1000th of all land would be affected. We should leave the "rugged individualist" types that refuse to live in or near civilization on their own.

But, you make a good point, if we allow forests to burn up to buffer zones, lots of wildlife will be sacrificed. Maybe the solution is a combination of buffer zones to partition forests where possible and controlled burns like someone indicated, that would save a lot more wildlife and also protect people and domesticated animals.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
8. Look at Malibu. There is a great buffer zone to the west.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:56 PM
Nov 2018

The Pacific Ocean

To the north is the Coast Highway which is surrounded by homes and businesses on both sides. You would have to throw people off their property to clear the land.

To the south is Los Angeles. There is no open space between the two cities. You can’t tell you are leaving one and entering the other one.

To the East are the mountains and hillsides.

You clear those and you get mud slides.

Nope your idea would not have saved Malibu.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. There are exceptions to everything.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:40 PM
Nov 2018

But in Northern California, such a plan would have likely saved lives.

I have done business in Southern California. You are right. I often saw canyons full of combustible vegetation and wildlife run right up to the yards of homes. People were ok with that, but they should be because there was nowhere else for the snakes and wildlife to live free if people.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
3. Except that they don't rake the forests in Finland
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:41 PM
Nov 2018

(which has a very different climate from CA), and this year they did have a very big problem with fires, along with the rest of Scandinavia, because of a lack of rain and abnormally high summer temperatures - 10C warmer than usual.

I hope someone gets in touch with the president of Finland and asks him whether he ever discussed forest fires with Orangehole McLittleDick, and if so, whether he told him they rake their forests.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
12. What makes him think he's got to say something?? Shut the fuck up...Moron,,and you will do better..
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:24 PM
Nov 2018

........got that.........SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU WILL DO BETTER..MORON!!!

................Yes, that moron is you...Donald Trump !!!


ok, the Moron got to say something...ok..."What a terrible disaster." that is what he should have said...
............if the Moron had to say something..

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
16. Great God...you used a word Trump does not know........."listen"...from "listening"
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:44 PM
Nov 2018

How does one teach someone to do that??????

Different Drummer

(7,614 posts)
18. This quote from Plato seems appropriately applied to Tiny Toadstool.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:49 PM
Nov 2018

“Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.”

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