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JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:24 PM Nov 2018

Democrats Who Ran Anti-Pelosi Campaigns Show Signs of Cracking

From "Roll Call":

Two in New Jersey, one in Michigan leave door open to supporting Pelosi after spurning her during campaign

Some of the newly elected Democratic House members who said on the campaign trail they would not support Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi for speaker have already shown signs of cracking as Pelosi ramps up the pressure for them not to divide the party before it even takes control of the chamber in January.

Rep.-elect Mikie Sherrill, a New Jersey Democrat who said during her campaign that the party needs “new leadership, and it starts at the top,” declined to affirm that statement after meeting with Pelosi on Friday.

“I’m sorry, I got to go,” Sherrill told reporters waiting outside the minority leader’s office. She directed reporters to her press aide.

...

Rep.-elect Andy Kim, another New Jersey Democrat, defeated Rep. Tom MacArthur on a platform that included ushering in a “new generation of leaders” in both parties.

But he dodged a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter’s question about his previous opposition to Pelosi and whether anything had changed.

“Right now I’m not making any commitments,” Kim said. “I certainly wanted a new generation of leadership, and that’s certainly still something I want.”

...

Haley Stevens, an incoming freshman member from Michigan, had also signaled during the campaign she would not vote for Pelosi for speaker on the House floor.

But she kept her options on the table Friday before lawmakers and elected lawmakers, who’ve been at new member orientation this week, head home for Thanksgiving.

“I haven’t said no,” Stevens said of supporting Pelosi, CNN reported.



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Democrats Who Ran Anti-Pelosi Campaigns Show Signs of Cracking (Original Post) JaneQPublic Nov 2018 OP
They aren't idiots-I hope YessirAtsaFact Nov 2018 #1
Here's the thing, trc Nov 2018 #2
Absolutely agree. But I believe Democrats need to groom the next generation of leaders also. OrlandoDem2 Nov 2018 #3
The next generation is already in place. They are the ranking members of the committees... brush Nov 2018 #6
There will be two votes LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #11
Reality bites. ananda Nov 2018 #4
Mentioned this several times already NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #5
I agree, and he's my Congressmember. JaneQPublic Nov 2018 #7
Yes, you are right, and I hope either Clyburn or Hoyer realize that. Rick Wilson made OnDoutside Nov 2018 #8
Who Put RYan & Moulton In Charge Of Leadership Anyway Me. Nov 2018 #9
Maybe they are hearing from their voters about this hmm? workinclasszero Nov 2018 #10
Maybe at the Moulton Town Hall JaneQPublic Nov 2018 #12
That place should be packed! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #13
Found details JaneQPublic Nov 2018 #14

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
1. They aren't idiots-I hope
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:36 PM
Nov 2018

They know that Pelosi will win eventually because nobody in the Democratic caucus wants a repugnant goon for Speaker.

trc

(823 posts)
2. Here's the thing,
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:37 PM
Nov 2018

I would be willing to bet that if Pelosi has the votes needed to win the speakership without needing those who ran on not supporting her she would allow them to vote for someone else. That's just good politics. Let them keep a campaign promise that helps them in two years but causes no damage now. During the voting for the ACA she had the votes to get the bill through and allowed some dems to vote no, like my ex-rep Chet Edwards. Chet did not lose on this, he lost to a rethug gerrymander that totally screwed his democratic constituents, but he and the democratic leadership had hoped this vote would help...the gerrymander was way too successful for that though.

brush

(53,771 posts)
6. The next generation is already in place. They are the ranking members of the committees...
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

who will become chairperson of those committees once the next Congress begins in Jan.

Cummings, Schiff, Lowey, Nadler and Walz are just a few of the sitting Dems poised to take over their committees and begin investigations, hearings and the issuing of subpoenas on all the wrongdoings of the trump admin.

BTW, there are 20 House committees so the notion that no potential leaders have been groomed is just not accurate.

LiberalFighter

(50,895 posts)
11. There will be two votes
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 02:06 PM
Nov 2018

One in the caucus and then the vote on the floor. They can vote for someone else during the caucus if anyone even runs. After the caucus they all need to band together. A couple voting against her might be okay. But it would not be good to vote for a Republican.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. Mentioned this several times already
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 12:53 PM
Nov 2018

but, while Steny Hoyer seems like a swell guy and has been in the House for nigh on 40 years now, I think having him step aside for now might be best.

My reason is purely numbers
1) Pelosi is the leader in a year when we elected a huge number of women. Canning her in that year just looks bad, even if replaced by another woman.
2) #3 in the House is James Clyburn, and dumping an African American House member when the two above him are white doesn't look good.
3) Hoyer is older than Pelosi and women typically live several years longer than men, so if anybody has reached an age where they should step aside, it's Hoyer.

Have somebody younger but still experienced (Adam Schiff? Ted Lieu?) step into Hoyer's role

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
7. I agree, and he's my Congressmember.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:06 PM
Nov 2018

He's not feasible as the next in line after Nancy retires, since he's older than her (79 to her 78).

Steny was just re-elected with about 80 percent of the vote, so he can bear a little loss in support by a few voters who only vote for him because of his leadership position. (Can't imagine anyone does that anyway.)

He may be a skilled Whip behind the scenes, but he's not a great party spokesperson. On TV appearances and public speeches, he's just not a very inspiring speaker.

It would actually benefit our district (MD-5) if Steny were just a garden-variety U.S. Representative rather than a leadership wheeler-dealer. Maybe he could spend more time addressing local needs rather than spending all his time traveling for DCCC and fundraising and recruiting candidates, etc.

OnDoutside

(19,954 posts)
8. Yes, you are right, and I hope either Clyburn or Hoyer realize that. Rick Wilson made
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:07 PM
Nov 2018

your exact point ie Pelosi is great but the leadership team needs to be changed.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. Who Put RYan & Moulton In Charge Of Leadership Anyway
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 01:54 PM
Nov 2018

2 of the more conservative members who are part of Krystal Ball's People House Project where the emphasis is basically on money, not diversity or other issues people care about like the one that won so many seats...ACA. Ball put that so-called project together and so far the only one who has benefitted is she and she has made a nice little bundle. Maybe Ryan and Moulton shouldn't be making decisions for anyone.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
12. Maybe at the Moulton Town Hall
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 03:07 PM
Nov 2018

Looks like it's tonight.






Can you please spread the word? Seth Moulton is having a Town Hall on Monday in Amesbury, MA at 6 pm. Let's send him a clear message that we oppose his effort to move the Democratic Party to the right. https://www.facebook.com/events/477606899312323/ … #IStandWithNancy #FiveWhiteGuys cc: @joanwalsh

1:45 PM - 16 Nov 2018

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
14. Found details
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 03:13 PM
Nov 2018

Rep. Seth Moulton (Democratic) MA-6 Town Hall
Mon, Nov 19 2018 6:00 PM, EST Amesbury Town Hall Amesbury Town Hall 62 Friend St, Amesbury, MA 01913

At link under upcoming events:
https://townhallproject.com/?district=MA-06-2506

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