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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeorge Papadopoulos's tweets may have just cost him bail: New legal filing from Mueller
"Following the defendants sentencing he made a variety of public statements that appear to be inconsistent with his stated acceptance of responsibility at sentencing"
Link to tweet
NCjack
(10,279 posts)jails and prisons are delicious.
Hotler
(11,420 posts)Just a Weirdo
(488 posts)The rest is crap. The pies are crap too. I know this from experience when I was a guest of the Fed system for under 3 months.
RockRaven
(14,959 posts)reasons not to listen to your obviously-a-Russian-agent fiancee/wife, number Eighty-seven: you'll say stupid crap on twitter which gets you tossed in prison.
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)Just like the idiot.
But idiots who run their mouth in public are not the new creation of social media. Social media is for nobodies like me and the most well-known people among us. Nobodies like him, who are made somebody by dint of the fact he's a high profile criminal, want to brag about themselves. He's a famous criminal. Smart criminals keep their mouths shut, dumb ones like Papadopolous and Trump run their mouths bragging how they beat the law.
On edit: I hope that smug asshole gets thrown in jail today. Not tomorrow, today. Revoke his bail on Thanksgiving and show the world how the end of leniency is abrupt, and on Mueller's timetable. Make an example of this prick, Bob.
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)I agree.
Have a happy Thanksgiving, Roy.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)minds. It didn't mention the astonishing stupidity that's turning out to be so common, but ex- prosecutors say the incredible sloppiness we're seeing is very common. I didn't hear that they gravitate to each other for mutual advantage and shared "values," but that's become very obvious.
It did say that many can do well legally but are dissatisfied with success earned that way, so we end up with successful people who engage in kinds of criminal behaviors that success facilitates, cheating to gain, cheating to win, hurting others for the power of it, breaking laws because it pleases them -- until they eventually get caught. Ex- prosecutors on TV have said they're often genuinely outraged at being treated like criminals (seen any genuinely outraged people from that camp lately?). Kemp's was certainly real in Georgia.
Papadopoulos was just a newbie to the criminal world we're now observing activities of daily, of course, but he chose it instead of running far and fast. Other faces are popping firmly to mind, though, as I type.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Some twist, especially with murder, that stupid mistakes are made. Looking at the situation from the outside, you can't help wondering why they didn't get rid of evidence or do this or that like keeping their big mouths shut. Police talk about this quite a bit. C'est mystere.
SWBTATTReg
(22,112 posts)to mouth off etc. just seems crazy.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)types are not committing spontaneous crimes, but usually ones that require scheming and prior actions, often a lot of it. I can imagine it would change the brain anyway. Caffeine does, why not the thrill of bilking someone out of his life savings/
Me.
(35,454 posts)Evil isnt easy. Say what you will about historys monsters, they had to overcome a lot of powerful neural wiring to commit the crimes they did. The human brain is coded for compassion, for guilt, for a kind of empathic pain that causes the person inflicting harm to feel a degree of suffering that is in many ways as intense as what the victim is experiencing. Somehow, that all gets decoupledand a new study published in the journal Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience brings science a step closer to understanding exactly what goes on in the brain of a killer.
http://time.com/3816212/brain-murder-morality/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)as we look back to even the turn of the century when we didn't google the way we do now because information was still so sparse.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)That you see in people who get a traffic ticket for breaking the law. Especially if previously they broke the same laws and got away with it. They feel deeply outraged and self pity for the unfair treatment.
I imagine cops are used to it. I know Ive caught a couple of them off guard when I immediately admit to my crime of speeding 10 miles an hour over the speed limit! Thats the extent of my crimes so far. In 55 years of driving Ive gotten two speeding tickets.
I've earned a ton of speeding tickets as an appraiser in L.A., and am probably as righteously proud of my crimes as Trump is of his. (Other drivers are stupid. Only I can do it.) But my two tickets in 50 years are for rolling slowly through a 4-way stop on dead streets at 4 in the morning and not fastening my seatbelt to drive half a block from one store to another.
Living on the edge gets addictive, doesn't it?
Its a heart pounder!
NBachers
(17,107 posts)A lot of these guys were convinced that there was one specific thing they did that got them busted. They decided that, next time around they would not do that one specific thing. That meanst, to them, that they would not get busted next time.
A lot of them had no second thoughts about the fact that they were going right back out into criminal activities as soon as they got out. Some of them got arrested before they even made it to the halfway house.
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Once the defendant pleaded
guilty [t]he law has shifted from a presumption of release to a presumption of valid conviction,
Me.
(35,454 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)From someone corrupted by trump who acts before he thinks, then regrets it. It should be a reminder to many others they will have consequences for their actions. Some for their inaction.
OnDoutside
(19,954 posts)lilactime
(657 posts)RichardRay
(2,611 posts)Tweet seems to have become formally acceptable. Its used without explanation or scare quotes in this very austere legal document.
former9thward
(31,984 posts)Cost him bail for what?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Pretty stupid.
It seems like Pappadopoulus may have been the gateway and instigator of the Trump campaign's conspiring with Russia about those emails.
Hekate
(90,646 posts)Unbelievable.
Welcome to federal prison, Cofveve Boy. Enjoy your stay.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,678 posts)Preceded this fubar administration, so it could be referred to when necessary.
SKKY
(11,804 posts)...he wandered into this like a lost child, and is now in way, way over his head. But, this is what happens when children play adult games.