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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,900 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:10 PM Nov 2018

American Is Killed by Bow and Arrow on Remote Indian Island

NEW DELHI — John Allen Chau had to know that what he was about to do was extremely dangerous.

Mr. Chau, thought to be in his 20s, was floating in a kayak off a remote island in the Andaman Sea. He was about to set foot on one of the most sealed-off parts of India, an island inhabited by a small, highly enigmatic tribe whose members have killed outsiders for simply stepping on their shore.

Fishermen warned him not to go. Few outsiders had ever been there. And Indian government regulations clearly prohibited any interaction with people on the island, called North Sentinel.

But Mr. Chau pushed ahead in his kayak, which he had packed with a Bible. After that, it is a bit of a mystery what happened.
But the police say one thing is clear: Mr. Chau did not survive.

On Wednesday, the Indian authorities said that Mr. Chau had been shot with bows and arrows by tribesmen when he got on shore and that his body was still on the island. Fishermen who helped take Mr. Chau to North Sentinel told the police that they had seen tribesmen dragging his body on the beach.

It was a “misplaced adventure,’’ said Dependra Pathak, the police chief in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. “He certainly knew it was off limits.’’

Mr. Pathak said Mr. Chau, believed to be 26 or 27 and from Washington State, may have been trying to convert the islanders to Christianity. Right before he left in his kayak, Mr. Chau gave the fishermen a long note. In it, police officials said, he had written that Jesus had bestowed him with the strength to go to the most forbidden places on Earth.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/american-is-killed-by-bow-and-arrow-on-remote-indian-island/ar-BBPWQJR?li=BBnb7Kz

The people on this island are believed to be descended from the first people out of Africa. They're not very friendly to strangers plus it's likely they don't have a resistance to modern diseases.

It's a shame Mr. Chau is dead but he should have known better.

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American Is Killed by Bow and Arrow on Remote Indian Island (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 OP
I don't think it's a shame he's dead. dawg day Nov 2018 #1
That is heartless oberliner Nov 2018 #4
Free clue: they didn't have bullhorns and universal translators to tell him to back off. X_Digger Nov 2018 #12
They've been there 60,000 years, and they are the only surviving Andamanese tribe jberryhill Nov 2018 #30
They probably felt they had no other choice MustLoveBeagles Nov 2018 #39
I agree. These people are protected and should remain so ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #9
I was thinking that there would be malaise Nov 2018 #11
If he went without a bible or a religious purpose would you still feel that way? Fullduplexxx Nov 2018 #17
This -- he literally could have erased the enire civilization obamanut2012 Nov 2018 #29
Jesus had bestowed him with strength? Jesus should have bestowed a cloak on invincibility Autumn Nov 2018 #2
One less practitioner of bad theology gratuitous Nov 2018 #5
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #7
Oh Jesus... Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #26
Or some intelligence and common sense. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #44
God works in mysterious ways!!! nt USALiberal Nov 2018 #3
It is always a misplaced MuseRider Nov 2018 #6
He didn't speak their language. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2018 #24
Don't ask me MuseRider Nov 2018 #25
Oh, speak very slowly to them in English. You know, Jeebus' language. stopbush Nov 2018 #37
The strength that Jesus gave didn't stop a primitive arrow. Blue_true Nov 2018 #8
+1 The Hurricane Stopper...ahem. Crutchez_CuiBono Nov 2018 #28
A childhood acquaintance of mine ended up as a guerrilla missionary to Saudi Arabia. byronius Nov 2018 #10
When I was in the Navy, we were warned to be on our best behaviour when going on liberty there. Kaleva Nov 2018 #23
I wonder how and if they will get his body back JI7 Nov 2018 #13
I doubt they will be able to get it back. LisaL Nov 2018 #14
The last time someoone went ashore jberryhill Nov 2018 #31
they are working with Anthropologists on how to get it back JI7 Nov 2018 #43
Sometimes God's answer is "no". Then there are times when God's answer is an emphatic "Hell No". mulsh Nov 2018 #15
So much of life is about choices and consequences. elocs Nov 2018 #16
So much for the Prime Directive... Sancho Nov 2018 #18
Not telling Red Shirts about the Prime Directive is a hazing ritual that needs to be banned Kaleva Nov 2018 #20
He should've listened when people told him not to go Luciferous Nov 2018 #19
He probably thought that in the last minute of his life. Kaleva Nov 2018 #21
ya'll have no chill in this thread. JHan Nov 2018 #27
He was preparing to meet his maker jberryhill Nov 2018 #32
Guy deserved his Darwin Award... Who would have thought that virulently isolated and xenophobic JCMach1 Nov 2018 #22
You can check in any time you want, but you can never leave. aikoaiko Nov 2018 #33
There is only so much sympathy one can provide. LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #34
i dont even know what to think... samnsara Nov 2018 #35
Dying for make believe. What a fool. stopbush Nov 2018 #36
It bothers me that his death was so clearly avoidable. Iggo Nov 2018 #38
his family said they forgive those that killed him JI7 Nov 2018 #41
The islanders have zero resistance to modern diseases Recursion Nov 2018 #40
he went to Oral Roberts University JI7 Nov 2018 #42
That actually explains it dalton99a Nov 2018 #46
Wonder what nut job "inspired" him. Xolodno Nov 2018 #45
.. JHan Nov 2018 #47
Those are some tough anti-immigration laws on that island. egduj Nov 2018 #48

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. I don't think it's a shame he's dead.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:19 PM
Nov 2018

he chose to endanger these people. and like other biblebooters, if he managed to infect them with a contagious illness, he would have smiled at having set more souls to his heaven.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
12. Free clue: they didn't have bullhorns and universal translators to tell him to back off.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:31 PM
Nov 2018

What would you have an indigenous, technically retrograde people do? There are signs around the area, the whole damned area is protected and patrolled.

What.the.fuck?!? Goddamned colonial religious twaddle.

It was self-defense by a critically endangered group of people.

They don't have UV sterilizers and disinfection stations set up for the non-existent unwelcome visitors.

For fuck's sake.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. They've been there 60,000 years, and they are the only surviving Andamanese tribe
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:55 PM
Nov 2018

So, yeah, it may not be the only way, but this particular group has been much more successful with their approach to dealing with outsiders than any of their neighbors have been.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,589 posts)
39. They probably felt they had no other choice
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:45 AM
Nov 2018

Please hear me out. I won't attack you I promise. There are strict laws there against visiting this island and for good reason. The natives don't want outsiders there and their wishes should've been respected. They have the right to defend themselves against what they see as invaders. This was a preventable and needless death. If the reports I read are true they did fire warning shots first giving him an opportunity to escape. For whatever reason he chose to ignore that warning and pressed on. He paid the price for it.

Nevertheless I do feel bad for what happened to him and take no joy in his death. My condolences to his friends and family. I was surprised to see all the snark and grave dancing that's dominating this topic. It's a little disappointing to see this on a liberal discussion board. I might get flamed for saying that but, oh well.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
29. This -- he literally could have erased the enire civilization
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:53 PM
Nov 2018

He though he had a God given right to do what he wanted to, laws of another country be damned.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. One less practitioner of bad theology
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:26 PM
Nov 2018

Perhaps some of the survivors will learn a lesson without having to pay with their lives.

Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
6. It is always a misplaced
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:29 PM
Nov 2018

adventure when you seek to proselytize others. My guess is, like my relatives who do this kind of shit, he thought they had never had the "opportunity" to hear of his lord and savior and it was time someone took it into their own hands to change these people into what he likely considered "God fearing". Oh boy, I will be almost like a messiah! I see Jesus had given him strength. Man oh man. He needed armor and common sense. Oops!

They have a very good resistance to the modern (and not so modern) disease of converting everyone to Jesus.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
25. Don't ask me
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:31 PM
Nov 2018

I find his behavior abhorrent.

Maybe Jesus just makes everyone understand? God almighty is there anybody they will not god bother?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. The strength that Jesus gave didn't stop a primitive arrow.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:00 PM
Nov 2018

On well, wait for the next one claiming to have the word. Too bad Pat Robertson can't be convinced to visit that island, and take Jim Bakker with him.

byronius

(7,392 posts)
10. A childhood acquaintance of mine ended up as a guerrilla missionary to Saudi Arabia.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 07:18 PM
Nov 2018

I talked with him a few years ago; what a lunatic. He was arrested multiple times and deported, but stated that he fully intends to go again.

We both learned Arabic in Saudi -- he disguises himself as a Bedouin, crosses the border illegally with a backpack full of bibles, and proselytizes until he's caught. I'm certain that only the fact that he's a US citizen keeps him alive and out of the notoriously fatal Saudi penal system.

He's also done the same thing in Syria and Jordan.

He wasn't crazy when I knew him. We traveled down the African continent together with our families, nearly died a hundred times, then took a ship to India.

In India his family ran into the back of a Mack truck, severing the mother's arm and partially blinding the father. My family was first on the scene, and the ride to the hospital in Delhi is a memory I have unsuccessfully tried to repress. They survived, but they left Saudi forever and moved back to Cape Cod.

His parents were non-religious, so at some point in his adolescence he must have gone over the radical edge, because holy cow -- living dangerously is apparently his thing.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
23. When I was in the Navy, we were warned to be on our best behaviour when going on liberty there.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:52 PM
Nov 2018

I stayed on the ship. Besides, it was god awful hot to be walking around outside.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. The last time someoone went ashore
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 10:59 PM
Nov 2018

There were two dead fisherman whom the Indians attempted to retrieve by helicopter from shallow beach graves. The helicopter landing was aborted by a volley of their allows.

They have apparently produced metal-tipped arrows from metal scrap in driftwood and other debris.

elocs

(22,566 posts)
16. So much of life is about choices and consequences.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 08:51 PM
Nov 2018

He made his choice and he suffered the consequence.
Moron, he was going to try and convert the natives to Christianity and as a result they converted him into worm food.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
22. Guy deserved his Darwin Award... Who would have thought that virulently isolated and xenophobic
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 09:51 PM
Nov 2018

natives who have killed people in the past would kill you. Who would have thunk it?

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
33. You can check in any time you want, but you can never leave.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 11:04 PM
Nov 2018


You died for your convictions, John Allen Chau. At least you had that.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
38. It bothers me that his death was so clearly avoidable.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 12:01 AM
Nov 2018

That's about it.

EDIT: Well, not really. I'm sure he has a family who loves him. I feel bad for them.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
45. Wonder what nut job "inspired" him.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 02:15 AM
Nov 2018

The Apostles went to areas where they KNEW people would be receptive to their message....and it still got them killed*.

What defined their success, was the population they would convert and develop future leaders.

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