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riversedge

(70,187 posts)
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:11 AM Nov 2018

Mattis objected, based on law, to permit troops at the border to use lethal force

Mattis objected but John Kelly overrode him. what the hell is going on.




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John Kelly, Trump's Chief of Staff, a position for which neither election nor Senate confirmation is required, has overruled Jim Mattis, the U.S. Secretary of Defense, on rules of engagement & domestic use of the military.

The Executive Branch is using our troops for politics.

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Mattis objected, based on law, to permit troops at the border to use lethal force to protect border agents from unarmed migrants.

DHS ignored his objections & Kelly issued a controversial memo of…

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Your Military
White House approves use of force, some law enforcement roles for border troops



https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/11/21/white-house-approves-use-of-force-some-law-enforcement-roles-for-border-troops/
By: Tara Copp ? 23 hours ago

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Trump admin moves to allow troops to use force, perform law enforcement at border

The Trump administration this week moved allow troops to act in law-enforcement capacities, including using lethal force, along the US-Mexico border in an order that may represent a move toward longstanding practice.


The White House late Tuesday signed a memo allowing troops stationed at the border to engage in some law enforcement roles and use lethal force, if necessary — a move that legal experts have cautioned may run afoul of the Posse Comitatus Act.

The new “Cabinet order” was signed by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, not President Donald Trump.
It allows “Department of Defense military personnel” to “perform those military protective activities that the Secretary of Defense determines are reasonably necessary” to protect border agents, including “a show or use of force (including lethal force, where necessary), crowd control, temporary detention. and cursory search.”

However an earlier “decision memo” that came to the same recommendations that were contained in the “cabinet memo” was signed by President Trump, according to documents obtained by Newsweek.
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Norman Ornstein Verified account @NormOrnstein

John Kelly shows again why he is the worst White House Chief of Staff ever. Issues order to troops that they can use force at the border, violating Posse Comitatus Act. He is simply a disaster.
5:11 PM - 21 Nov 2018


Lee Resists ? @lawonbeach
14h14 hours ago

Replying to @NormOrnstein @Cellerby

Again, the Chief of Staff is NOT a military position. It is specifically separate from the military to avoid just the appearance of or an actual coup by the Exec branch. He does not give orders to the military - I don’t care that he WAS ONCE a General. This is not normal!
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Dawn WTFAmerica?
? @DumboRat4000
13h13 hours ago

Holy crap. We need someone to file for restraining order immediately . god, I feel so angry and freaking helpless. There has got to be something we can do to stop this. 1/
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Mattis objected, based on law, to permit troops at the border to use lethal force (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2018 OP
Another senseless edict or more distraction? It's all just sickening. BSdetect Nov 2018 #1
. dalton99a Nov 2018 #2
A hero for our times?? gibraltar72 Nov 2018 #3
When "Mad Dog" won't fall in line... malthaussen Nov 2018 #4
Well, shit. If the right won't respect anything about our Constitution and laws, what Baitball Blogger Nov 2018 #5
... Scurrilous Nov 2018 #6

Baitball Blogger

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5. Well, shit. If the right won't respect anything about our Constitution and laws, what
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 12:22 PM
Nov 2018

makes the second amendment so special? Such hypocrisy.

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