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busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 07:34 PM Nov 2018

So sad! Did any of you Tiger and Phil play

each other for 9 million dollars? Breaks my heart to know that
Phil Mickelson has to pay taxes on his 9 million dollar winnings..

Remember several years ago when he publicly complained about
how much taxes he has to pay.?

Here's a reminder... By the way.

https://money.cnn.com/2013/01/23/news/economy/mickelson-taxes/index.html

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So sad! Did any of you Tiger and Phil play (Original Post) busterbrown Nov 2018 OP
I've never liked him nini Nov 2018 #1
Its funny but I always liked his personality... busterbrown Nov 2018 #2
He is a whiner. I so wish Tiger had beaten him..n/t monmouth4 Nov 2018 #3
Whiner is alot better than Tiger. dem4decades Nov 2018 #9
Not a better golfer though. brush Nov 2018 #13
No I think he's a better person. And I have little knowledge to base it on. dem4decades Nov 2018 #16
When Tiger was at his best he'd win with no one even close. brush Nov 2018 #17
Yeah, Eldrick is such a great guy RhodeIslandOne Nov 2018 #11
Up till I just read this.. I liked tiger a lot... busterbrown Nov 2018 #30
I hold with Mark Twain's opinion of golf, elocs Nov 2018 #4
It's so freaking hard! busterbrown Nov 2018 #5
Golf is negative exercise empedocles Nov 2018 #8
Not quite sure what you mean PJMcK Nov 2018 #20
My tennis partner used to say that a lot. empedocles Nov 2018 #25
Got it. That's funny! PJMcK Nov 2018 #26
I played on for awhile. Told my orthopedic md I played 'light tennis'. empedocles Nov 2018 #28
Golf is just a wicked cool prank Scotsmen played on the world Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #10
I've always loved that bit! PJMcK Nov 2018 #21
I played a few years back. Blue_true Nov 2018 #12
The pros make it look easy and some think it is because the ball is just sitting there. NOT! brush Nov 2018 #14
No kidding...the dumbest argument of all time is that golf is darts on grass Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #19
Phil is also a devoted family man PJMcK Nov 2018 #22
golf is the most difficult sport I've ever played PJMcK Nov 2018 #24
I probably haven't watched any golf in twenty years unless I was at a resaurant waiting for carryout dameatball Nov 2018 #6
That was the day I completely stopped cheering for him. It was just so, so tone deaf MLAA Nov 2018 #7
Don't care Rebl2 Nov 2018 #15
No. Never been a fan of Phil. underpants Nov 2018 #18
Why do you object to that image? PJMcK Nov 2018 #23
I don't object I just think it's goofy underpants Nov 2018 #29
Thanks for this busterbrown.I hate this SOB Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #27

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
2. Its funny but I always liked his personality...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 07:37 PM
Nov 2018

until he came out with this statement a couple of years ago.

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
16. No I think he's a better person. And I have little knowledge to base it on.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:11 PM
Nov 2018

But a few years ago Phil was in a playoff with a young kid that had never won a tournament, on the first playoff hole the kid hit a great approach shot right to the pin. Phil turned to the kid and just smiled and said "Great shot". I've never seen Tiger do anything similar under the same circumstances.

brush

(53,767 posts)
17. When Tiger was at his best he'd win with no one even close.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:29 PM
Nov 2018

After all his troubles he's gotten a little more humble.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
30. Up till I just read this.. I liked tiger a lot...
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 06:33 PM
Nov 2018

He was just so freaking good.. But when I read about how we should treat the presidency with respect.
Fuck him too now!

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
5. It's so freaking hard!
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 07:57 PM
Nov 2018

I'm a good athlete (was) I'm 70... Never broke an honest 85.. I played a lot too.

PJMcK

(22,032 posts)
20. Not quite sure what you mean
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:46 AM
Nov 2018

I play golf. I almost always walk the course and carry my bag which weighs about 15-20 pounds depending on how much gear and refreshments I need on a given day. When walking a course, the golfer will cover between 5-1/2 to 8 miles usually over somewhat hilly terrain. At the end, it's pretty tiring.

How is that "negative exercise?" Try it sometime then get back to me.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
25. My tennis partner used to say that a lot.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:28 AM
Nov 2018

Part of it was chronic back pain, which is very common at the pga - part of it was frustration, taking up golf in his 40's which was a handicap in itself. He and I both say 'negative exercise' in good humor.

PJMcK

(22,032 posts)
26. Got it. That's funny!
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 11:29 AM
Nov 2018

I played tennis for years until my knees couldn't take the impacts. That sport is really intense exercise.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
28. I played on for awhile. Told my orthopedic md I played 'light tennis'.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 03:21 PM
Nov 2018

He said, 'that's a new one!', as he laughed out loud. I do occasionally do little warmups on the practice board, or do soft warmups with wife or daughter, [easy lofting hitable balls over the nets]. Like the movement, balances a very little my injury avoiding gym work.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. I played a few years back.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 08:21 PM
Nov 2018

Shot 81-83 pretty consistently. Never could break 80 with any regularity. At a score of 85, you were a better than average golfer, average is around 95 for 18 holes.

The problem with shooting in the low 80s (85 is low 80s) is that you run into the mental wall of the game, it is no longer just physical. What I mean is you have to know when it is best to use say a 3-wood or 2-iron off the tee instead of a driver, that decisionmaking is what separates a low 80s golfer from people that shoot in the 70s and 60s consistently. Golf is also a game where you can't let the first wheel come off because then, low 80s golfers start pressing to make up the last bad hole and get themselves in trouble. If I taught a child, I would drill into him or her to forget what happened on the last hole and focus entirely on how to most effectively play the hole that they will tee off on.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
19. No kidding...the dumbest argument of all time is that golf is darts on grass
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 01:12 AM
Nov 2018

People watch the pros maneuver the ball on command and brainstorm that there's nothing to it.

Meanwhile, just making contact is difficult enough. There are so many variables into making that club hit that ball in precisely the correct spot and at the proper angle.

That is the reason top pros from other sports are in absolute awe of professional golfers. They have mastered anything they have attempted athletically but fail miserably at golf.

Millennials generally suck at golf compared to earlier generations. They dismiss is as not worth their time because it takes too long to play. But I've always believed they think it is supposed to be simple like all those push-button games they grew up with, and that is hardly the case.

Anyway, I'm a huge fan of Phil Mickelson after watching him on the course for more than two decades. He is the only guy out there who makes regular eye contact with the gallery all day long, with the sheepish grin and actually responding to comments from the gallery. Tiger, in comparison, is an absolute zombie out there, forced to pretend he doesn't see or hear anything. It is beyond pathetic. It is laughable.

First time I saw Phil on the course was at Desert Inn in Las Vegas in the '90s. He stayed after a range session and chatted with the handful of spectators for more than a half hour. Amy was there and participated also.

Phil did make a huge mistake getting connected with Billy Walters, who is nothing but a life long crook. I could tell countless stories about that from first hand knowledge. Walters doesn't do anything without an unfair advantage. So if Phil traded stocks with Walters' advice, there is no question that insider trading was involved. Phil was fortunate to escape further scrutiny there.

PJMcK

(22,032 posts)
22. Phil is also a devoted family man
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:49 AM
Nov 2018

He stopped playing to be with his wife when she developed cancer. He spends extensive time with his kids.

It was fun to watch The Match because it was goofy. I was rooting for Phil and it was terrific to see the two of them agree that the match had to be won with a birdie.

PJMcK

(22,032 posts)
24. golf is the most difficult sport I've ever played
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:53 AM
Nov 2018

I've been pretty athletic my whole life. I played competitive baseball, football, track, wrestling, sailing and running.

Golf is fiendishly difficult and frustrating. It's also wonderful!

underpants

(182,774 posts)
18. No. Never been a fan of Phil.
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 12:03 AM
Nov 2018

Not only did a good friend play basketball with him (before he was famous) and say he was a complete jerk but his sponsors are the worst - Exxon and Bearing Point. Bearing Point was the "consultant group" who got paid to sign off on pretty much all the gross waste and abuse in Iraq.

If you want to know about Phil these days just consider that he was advised and agreed that this "Air Mickelson" logo (my name for it) was a good idea.



PJMcK

(22,032 posts)
23. Why do you object to that image?
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 10:51 AM
Nov 2018

It's an iconic moment from Phil's career: he had just won the Masters.

Power 2 the People

(2,437 posts)
27. Thanks for this busterbrown.I hate this SOB
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 02:32 PM
Nov 2018

I remember when he made $46 million in one year but was upset that he had to pay $13,000 in Social Security Taxes.

Greedy and entitled.

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