Scary. Is this the start of business microtargeting people's social media behaviour online?

[applegrove]

If so they have flipped the concept of goodwill on its' ass.

Link to tweet

?s=20

And this:

Bloomberg: Beijing To Start 'Rating' Every Citizen By 2020

By Nicole Belle

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/11/bloomberg-beijing-start-rating-every/amp?__twitter_impression=true

"SNIP.....

China’s plan to judge each of its 1.3 billion people based on their social behavior is moving a step closer to reality, with Beijing set to adopt a lifelong points program by 2021 that assigns personalized ratings for each resident.

The capital city will pool data from several departments to reward and punish some 22 million citizens based on their actions and reputations by the end of 2020, according to a plan posted on the Beijing municipal government’s website on Monday. Those with better so-called social credit will get “green channel” benefits while those who violate laws will find life more difficult.

The Beijing project will improve blacklist systems so that those deemed untrustworthy will be “unable to move even a single step,” according to the government’s plan. Xinhua reported on the proposal Tuesday, while the report posted on the municipal government’s website is dated July 18.

.....SNIP"

What should we call it? "Badwill" instead of goodwill?

[PoliticAverse]

1. They're not the only ones...

Gun Control: New York Wants to Make You Submit Social Media History Before Purchasing Gun

https://www.newsweek.com/gun-control-new-york-wants-make-you-submit-social-media-history-purchasing-1228579

[applegrove]

2. That is not so bad.

[UniteFightBack]

3. I think you are comparing two very different things. nt

[struggle4progress]

9. "It's getting so you can't loudly threaten to kill lots of people without some busybody

wondering if you should really be able to have a gun! What's next? Persecuting people for harmless little bomb hoaxes?"

[kcr]

16. But it's loudly threatining on the *internet*, which means it's not real

The internet is magic, so you can do whatever you want. It's super duper protected by a whole bunch of constitutional amendments that don't apply to regular stuff out in the real world in the same way. It's amazing.

ETA since it was a comparison, I thought it was searching a person's posting history. I don't think requiring handing in passwords is the same thing. I still think it was a ridiculous comparison, but guns

[MarvinGardens]

12. Surveillance state

However, gun rights lawyer James Tresmond told WFTS that it would not be easy to pass the bill because it violates multiple constitutional rights, including the first, second, fourth, fifth and fourteenth amendments.

Does it? Any one of those would be a problem. This smacks of "surveillance state" to me, something we should not be defending here. And what if someone has no social media accounts on the platforms mentioned? I fit that category. Would I be denied a gun permit for that reason?

[kcr]

15. Ooh. I bet it will be bathtub manufacturers next.

People better lock down their accounts or it's going to get awfully smelly.

[obamanut2012]

18. Good

[erronis]

4. Aeroflot as well as all the media/industry/education are just part of the Putin

apparatus.

Aeroflot does nothing without direction from the Kremlin.

Of course the layers of oligarchs that own most industry within the rUSSRia are partners with putin and pay plenty to make him one of the wealthiest on the planet. That's why the US pResident gets so lustful when around that type of power.

Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, ...

[erronis]

5. Shout out to @Billbrowder

Don't know much of the background other than reported in NYT, etc.

But amazed you're still kicking, and landing a few in the groin.

[brooklynite]

6. Aeroflot is, broadly speaking, the only airline in Russia...

If a company attempted this in the United States, their market share would plummet.

[applegrove]

7. But there is so much noise out there. Domestic non political stories

barely get covered.

[Xolodno]

8. Here in the US...

...people have been sued for giving a negative review. So, they may be taking a page out of our own book.

[Celerity]

17. Can You Get Sued for Leaving a Bad Review? (answer: yes)

If you get poor service in a restaurant or feel a photographer you hired didn’t do the job you paid for, it can be very tempting to jump online and write a scathing review. Before you do, you should think twice. If you’re not careful, leaving a bad review could get you sued.

https://www.howtogeek.com/352302/can-you-get-sued-for-leaving-a-bad-review/

The reality is that anyone can sue anyone at any time for any thing. Frivolous lawsuits are a real thing. PETA has spent seven years suing a photographer on behalf of a monkey. This means that if you annoy a company enough, they can lawyer up and get a court date. You might win, but it could still end up costing you a lot of time and money.

Specifically, people have been sued in the past for leaving bad reviews. In some cases—and we’ll explore some examples—the company has won. In others, like this case where an Edmonton man left a one star review for a tech company that didn’t call him back, the company never follows through with their threat. In yet more, such as this one where a student left a negative review of a law firm that came into her bedroom while she was sleeping in her underwear, the person being sued has won and the company has had to pay their legal fees—$27,000 in this instance.

The big takeaway is that, whatever the result ends up being, companies have sued people for leaving bad reviews. Even if the case ends up being thrown out by a judge, it still can’t have been a fun few months for the people involved while everything was going on. And unless you win and get reimbursement for legal fees, you’re still out whatever money you paid to your lawyer.

Reviews Are Protected By the First Amendment…To a Point

In the US, reviews are protected by the First Amendment, which covers freedom of speech. To back this up, Congress passed a law in 2016 called the Consumer Review Fairness Act, which made it illegal for companies to add terms to their contracts that banned customers from posting negative reviews—or fined them if they do. These terms were becoming increasingly common at the time.

snip

[lindysalsagal]

20. Companies can always hire huge, ugly law firms, and write off the costs. Individuals cannot

afford to take them on. Hence, scorched-earth cancer-causing mining in West Virginia. No matter how many people die from cancer, there are always more corporate lawyers who can minimize the expensive payoffs and locals will continue to go along to get along.

[MarvinGardens]

10. There is a "Black Mirror" episode about this.

I guess it really was near-future.

[applegrove]

11. What is Black Mirror?

[MarvinGardens]

13. A Netflix show.

Worth watching if you have Netflix. The episodes take place in societies that have a bit more advanced technology than ours... but not that much more advanced. E.g. no flying cars. Some are a bit more far out than others. Early episodes were British but some of the newer ones use American actors. Many focus on the consequences of taking social media, or ubiquitous recording of our interactions, too far. Not all are completely dystopian. Some have happy endings.

[applegrove]

14. Thanks.

[lindysalsagal]

19. And then the black market on anonymous postings will eventually render all "information" dubious.

At that point, only the largest multi-national corporations will know the "truth" about anything.

And we'll be living in global fascism.

Thank you, George Orwell, for trying.