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dsc

(52,152 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:51 PM Nov 2018

So what are those of us who wish to drive US made passenger cars supposed to do?

First Ford announced no more passenger cars after a few years. Now GM is getting rid of several of their passenger cars. I am on my 2nd focus, about 140 k miles. Assuming it lasts another few years, I will be in market for a car in a few years. I really want to buy a US made vehicle as I am a teacher and thus dependent on US taxes for my salary. I guess I may have to either get a Lincoln or a Chrysler.

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So what are those of us who wish to drive US made passenger cars supposed to do? (Original Post) dsc Nov 2018 OP
You do know that Japanese and other foreign cars are made in America, don't you? Hekate Nov 2018 #1
You do know that their profits are sent out of the country, right? nt Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #30
Ditto LiberalFighter Nov 2018 #31
But... tekriter Nov 2018 #36
Good point nt spooky3 Nov 2018 #38
Thank you. Yes, those thousands of jobs are HERE. nt Hekate Nov 2018 #44
I don't understand this counterpoint fescuerescue Nov 2018 #66
Not even that much. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #69
So is GE, KPMG, Kock Industries, etc. They ship their taxable income offshore, and it's legal. TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #82
you talking about carsbeing made here or profits? The jobs and salaries are here It sounds like you TeamPooka Nov 2018 #97
Kind of MosheFeingold Nov 2018 #112
Non Union! demosincebirth Nov 2018 #54
This too! Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #57
+1 Go Vols Nov 2018 #114
Yes! Non-union! That's why the foreign car companies decided to setup here. TwistOneUp Dec 2018 #118
I have too much national pride to buy a foreign car. I think it would be beyond pathetic if the day Midwestern Democrat Nov 2018 #85
Our corporate overlords have made decisions that we've had no part of, including convincing ... Hekate Nov 2018 #98
The high end electronics are still made in America Guppy Nov 2018 #104
Back in the day secondvariety Nov 2018 #109
Macintosh is still made in Binghamton Guppy Nov 2018 #117
Lots to choose from. rgbecker Nov 2018 #94
Is there a small SUV that would work for you? Nt spooky3 Nov 2018 #2
It would be a big hit on gas mileage in all probability dsc Nov 2018 #7
Check it out--some small ones get good mileage. And spooky3 Nov 2018 #9
Looking now just out of curiousity dsc Nov 2018 #11
Toyota makes the Rav4 hybrid, which is not that small, spooky3 Nov 2018 #27
Mazda CX3 or 5. Both do well on gas. nt a la izquierda Nov 2018 #25
Consider a Toyota Camry. Liberty Belle Nov 2018 #53
Camrys and Accords are both built in the U.S. regnaD kciN Nov 2018 #78
Glad your husband is ok JonAndKatePlusABird Nov 2018 #88
"In most cars the drive{r} would be impaled by the steering wheel...." mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 #93
My Forester mgardener Nov 2018 #63
I love my Corolla Ohiogal Nov 2018 #103
I have had two Corollas, my brother is on his second, though madinmaryland Nov 2018 #115
japnese cars still made in the USA, right? nt msongs Nov 2018 #3
Subaru made in Indiana watoos Nov 2018 #58
Assembled. demosincebirth Nov 2018 #75
There are a lot of us who prefer to buy from US companies. LisaM Nov 2018 #4
Tesla is a US company... TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #39
Base price of $35k may be considered competitive, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #52
Fifty thousand dollars is not "competitive" jmowreader Nov 2018 #72
If you want an American made car, as opposed to an American made car from a nominally US company RockRaven Nov 2018 #5
You have to evaluate "Domestic Content". Blue_true Nov 2018 #18
Ford may stop making sedans not SUV's wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #6
Ford and Chevy pickup trucks will be produced. nt NCjack Nov 2018 #65
Focus will be made in China. Hoyt Nov 2018 #8
toyotas are assembled in Kentucky MaryMagdaline Nov 2018 #10
Toyota has 4 assembly plants in this country A HERETIC I AM Nov 2018 #26
All are made in red states TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #40
Agree with the nonunion part. GulfCoast66 Nov 2018 #70
The Focus is Russian made ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #12
As well as Michigan... lithiumbomb Nov 2018 #15
I think the point should be that all auto manufacturers produce and distribute worldwide ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #23
First, you don't worry; be happy. slumcamper Nov 2018 #13
When I got this Focus I had a massive commute dsc Nov 2018 #17
Toyota, Honda make cars in the US with US workers. Blue_true Nov 2018 #14
Subaru assembles the Impreza in Indiana. roamer65 Nov 2018 #49
Mitsubishi recently closed their plant waddirum Nov 2018 #55
Keep an eye on the UAW list. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #16
Thanks for this! nt TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #41
I'm a retired auto worker so I definitely want to buy American. blueinredohio Nov 2018 #19
buy a Tesla Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #20
My 07 Honda Civic was American made. MarvinGardens Nov 2018 #21
Buy a Hyundai! allgood33 Nov 2018 #22
Damn right! GaYellowDawg Nov 2018 #47
We've had six Hyundai already. The newest one I drive from end of September. sprinkleeninow Nov 2018 #77
I have a Tucson radical noodle Nov 2018 #79
Buy a Toyota or a Nissan or a Honda or a Subaru built in the US (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Nov 2018 #24
There are a lot of us. GM is getting rid of some that aren't moving well, and still_one Nov 2018 #28
My Honda is made in Lincoln, Alabama. sarcasmo Nov 2018 #29
Count me in as one more Honda owner. llmart Nov 2018 #32
I've always had either a Ford or Chrysler. lkinwi Nov 2018 #33
You're supposed to have bought them over the past 10 years Recursion Nov 2018 #34
Forgot to ask... llmart Nov 2018 #35
Property taxes are only a portion of the funding school districts in Ohio receive. OhioBlue Nov 2018 #46
My Accord is made in Ohio. Adrahil Nov 2018 #37
Volvo S60 Sedan Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #42
Volvo is now a Chinese company... OneBlueDotBama Nov 2018 #107
My suggestion of a Volvo was in response to the stipulation in the OP Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #108
You should ask your son... OneBlueDotBama Nov 2018 #113
In my mid 70's, marybourg Nov 2018 #43
I drive a Prius BlueSpot Nov 2018 #45
The Ford Edge is a nice ride... nt Progressive Jones Nov 2018 #48
Buy a foreign car that is made in the US JI7 Nov 2018 #50
Toyota has factories in the U.S. now and they're the most reliable cars on the road. Liberty Belle Nov 2018 #51
My wife and I only buy domestically made cars, too DFW Nov 2018 #56
Doesn't affect electrics... Get a Bolt, or a Buick or Sonic JCMach1 Nov 2018 #59
Electric Pick-Up truck is HERE! masmdu Nov 2018 #62
Chrysler is owned by Fiat and a large percentage of INdemo Nov 2018 #60
Ditto. I'm on my 2nd Focus as well. We bought it for the 35 mpg. 41mpg not unusual. Firestorm49 Nov 2018 #61
I'm just gonna keep fixing my Cruze like they do with cars in Cuba Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #64
US made or UAW made? KentuckyWoman Nov 2018 #67
Tesla has a lovely selection made in California Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #68
Is Chrysler American? Mendocino Nov 2018 #71
Why do people even like to drive them? pnwmom Nov 2018 #73
What does your husband drive? Mariana Nov 2018 #87
He drives an old Audi, which he loves. And it also has all-wheel drive, pnwmom Nov 2018 #89
As Sir Mick has been known to say, "You Can't Always Get What You Want". WillowTree Nov 2018 #74
There's always public transportation. Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #76
There is no public transportation where I live. And not much Uber or taxi either. SharonAnn Nov 2018 #80
public transport where I live is very spotty dsc Nov 2018 #83
One of the best options is Subaru Impreza built in Indiana. Unless you want a larger car for more $. LBM20 Nov 2018 #81
That will be my next car crazycatlady Nov 2018 #91
There is no such thing as an "American-made" car anymore Boomer Nov 2018 #84
I will never buy another "American" car. I don't want a pickup truck or a ginormous SUV. Nitram Nov 2018 #86
In 2016 CarFax made a ranking of American made cars csziggy Nov 2018 #90
I have a Lincoln and I love it! MoonRiver Nov 2018 #92
Get a horse. nt raccoon Nov 2018 #95
Used cars available. TeamPooka Nov 2018 #96
That's my strategy and it works well. Buy a good solid used car and take good care of it. marble falls Nov 2018 #100
It worked in Cuba for decades. TeamPooka Nov 2018 #106
Drive a Tesla? Start your own car company? If they could make money with them ... marble falls Nov 2018 #99
So stop buying anything made by Koch brothers, that will limit you considerably. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #101
Go electric A DAY IN THE LIFE Nov 2018 #102
They didn't get rid of all of them Renew Deal Nov 2018 #105
The worst car my wife ever had was from GM flyingfysh Nov 2018 #110
Our last American car was a new Pontiac something or other in the 1970's. Vinca Nov 2018 #116
Get a Mustang secondvariety Nov 2018 #111

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
1. You do know that Japanese and other foreign cars are made in America, don't you?
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:54 PM
Nov 2018

Check it out. They can't all have left yet because of our stupid potus.

tekriter

(827 posts)
36. But...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:33 PM
Nov 2018

The profits go to shareholders, wherever they are. And in the meantime, thousands of Americans have good paying jobs.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
66. I don't understand this counterpoint
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:22 PM
Nov 2018

Where solid liberals suddenly starting worrying about CEO and Executive profits in publicly traded companies that are owned by shareholders all over the world.


Finally, the profit on the car is percentage point of the REVENUE of the car. 90% of the revenue stays right here. The 5% to 10% profit margin does go back to Japan into executive pockets. But I'm not really worried about their pockets.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
69. Not even that much.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:17 PM
Nov 2018

One of my investments is pretty heavy into Toyota stock. So it is owned a tiny amount by this American.

What we need to do is issure workers made redundant by global forces have a good safety net that does not reduce them to poverty. A national healthcare system would go a long way toward that.

TeamPooka

(24,209 posts)
97. you talking about carsbeing made here or profits? The jobs and salaries are here It sounds like you
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:46 PM
Nov 2018

care more about the money and profits than the US jobs.
The companies also pay taxes here on that money etc too.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
112. Kind of
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:30 PM
Nov 2018

Most of the big companies are mainly owned by American stockholders or funds.

Management may be in Japan, but the owners are (more often than not) in the USA.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
118. Yes! Non-union! That's why the foreign car companies decided to setup here.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 08:15 PM
Dec 2018

They didn't buy the aging AMC plant in Kenosha, even tho it was a good deal and had suitable existing bldgs on it. Kenosha would have given them a tax deal.

No, they went with Right To Work states for cost of labor reasons. And those states work with the firms to keep down the unionize votes.

I'm not in labor, but if we lose the labor movement in the USA, we're toast. We've got to rebuild our manufacturing base or we're dependent on foreigners. I don't like to be dependent on foreigners, do you?

85. I have too much national pride to buy a foreign car. I think it would be beyond pathetic if the day
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:47 AM
Nov 2018

came where the largest car driving nation on earth didn't have a domestic automobile industry. It's already pathetic that we've surrendered the entire consumer electronics industry to Asia and are currently in the process of surrendering the entire household appliance industry to Asia as well.

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
98. Our corporate overlords have made decisions that we've had no part of, including convincing ...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:58 PM
Nov 2018

...enough not-rich Americans that gas-guzzlers are a source of national pride that the profit margin of the businesses involved (including Big Oil) are ever expanding while the planet suffers.

Hear me out: At their best American manufacturers used to make products they were proud of. Desire for profit is always a given, and there's nothing wrong with that. But people do the making, and when people are reduced to a debit on the ledger, and when the business of the company becomes not the product but shareholder profit, rot sets in. Rot set in a long time ago.

I supported President Obama's bailout of the auto industry. The auto industry said thanks, took the money, and as far as I can tell, waited for him to go away. The GOP Senate and House set out to oppose every single thing Obama tried to do, and waited for him to go away.

I have a lot to say on the subject of American products, manufacturers, and decisions to hire overseas at bottom dollar, and not much of it kind. But we were talking specifically about cars. I made a decision over 50 years ago to not buy what used to be called gas-guzzlers. Reasons included but were not limited to: my poverty and the fate of the Earth. I am fortunate to no longer be poor, but decisions I made back then were not just about money -- they were about ethics, and that has not changed.

All my life I have sincerely wanted American auto manufacturers to equal the quality of Japanese and German cars. They have not. Their decisions were not of my making, nor were they of the workers involved. But the consumers spending more than we/they can reasonably afford for a lesser product is certainly not going to change the situation. I voted with my checkbook -- and it looks like a lot of others have as well.



 

Guppy

(444 posts)
104. The high end electronics are still made in America
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:58 PM
Nov 2018

Most of the "HIFI stuff from Asia is pretty bad today. Not so much in the old days( Sansui, Pioneer, Yamaha).

Here is some very good american made HIFI for a good price point

https://www.schiit.com/

I have a pair of his designed speakers. He is wonderful. His price point is as low as $300 a pair



It is too bad that today's generation does not care about sound.
 

Guppy

(444 posts)
117. Macintosh is still made in Binghamton
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:22 PM
Nov 2018

and still expensive. There are just very good alternatives. I have modified Dynaco which was the poor man's mcintosh.

rgbecker

(4,820 posts)
94. Lots to choose from.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:32 PM
Nov 2018

Ownership of Most of these companies are traded on the NY Stock exchange so profits could be going anywhere across the world. High executive salaries is a worldwide problem and I don't think it makes much difference if the millionaires are not Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobiles_manufactured_in_the_United_States

dsc

(52,152 posts)
7. It would be a big hit on gas mileage in all probability
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:58 PM
Nov 2018

but I might check one out when the time comes. My Focus gets 35 or more highway and close to 30 overall. I doubt that a SUV would get comparable mileage.

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
9. Check it out--some small ones get good mileage. And
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:00 PM
Nov 2018

They are much more versatile than sedans. And as others have posted, several “foreign” cars are built here in the U.S.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
11. Looking now just out of curiousity
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:09 PM
Nov 2018

the smallest SUV gets better city mileage but significantly worse highway mileage than the focus. It is also 2k more expensive but that could be negotiated one imagines. I will say the SUV does look kind of neat.

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
27. Toyota makes the Rav4 hybrid, which is not that small,
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:32 PM
Nov 2018

In Ontario. It gets good mileage.

Here is the list of other Toyotas and where they’re built:

https://www.whiterivertoyota.com/blog/which-toyota-vehicles-are-assembled-in-the-us/

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
53. Consider a Toyota Camry.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:31 AM
Nov 2018

They get very good mileage and some are made in the US. Very comfortable car for me and it's a war horse- I've put high miles on, never any problems. They never seem to wear out. My first one was destroyed in a serious crash and I survived because of special safety features Toyota puts in to prevent an accordion effect when you hit something (a truck had run a stop sign right in front of me).

My husband's life was also saved in an earlier freak accident where a truck tire fell off a truck on an elevated road above us and smashed down onto our hood. In most cars the drive would be impaled by the steering wheel but Toyota is one of only 2 cars on the road (at least back then) to engineer to withstand this kind of impact without hurting you.

I am grateful to Toyota and will never buy anything else.

Our family has had 5 Toyotas, and all were gems. Never a serious mechanical problem in any of them, except one where the engine finallly conked out at 350,000 miles or so.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
78. Camrys and Accords are both built in the U.S.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:46 AM
Nov 2018

I'm on my third Accord. First one (1991 model) lasted 425,000 miles on the original drivetrain. The second (1999) was at 273,000, and would undoubtedly have gone for far longer, had not some idiot made a left turn from the local pot shop's parking lot into oncoming traffic and totaled it. Got a 2014 model now, and it's one of the best cars I've ever driven.

88. Glad your husband is ok
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:12 AM
Nov 2018

What a freaking nightmare. Very good to know about the Camery.

Major kudos to him if he's still driving...... An incident like that would likely cause me to swear off driving for a long time. Like I said, glad there was a happy ending to that freak accident.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
93. "In most cars the drive{r} would be impaled by the steering wheel...."
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:05 PM
Nov 2018

What model year car was this? Collapsible steering columns have been mandated since 1968.

Steering wheel
....

Passenger cars
....

The steering wheels were rigid and mounted on non-collapsible steering columns. This arrangement increased the risk of impaling the driver in case of a severe crash. The first collapsible steering column was invented in 1934 but was never successfully marketed. By 1956, Ford came out with a safety steering wheel that was set high above the post with spokes that would flex, but the column was still rigid. In 1968, United States regulations (FMVSS Standard No. 204) were implemented concerning the acceptable rearward movement of the steering wheel in case of crash. (1) Collapsible steering columns were required to meet that standard.

(1) https://icsw.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/import/FMVSS/#SN204

Standard No. 204 - Steering Control Rearward Displacement - Passenger Cars (Effective 1-1-68), Multipurpose Passenger Vehicles, Trucks, and Buses with Unloaded Vehicle Weight (UVW) of 1,814 kg (4,000 lbs.) or less (Effective 9-1-81). UVW of 2,495 kg (5,500 lbs.) or less (Effective 9-1-91). Walk-in Vans are excluded.
This standard specifies requirements limiting the rearward displacement of the steering column into the passenger compartment to reduce the likelihood of chest, neck, or head injuries.

mgardener

(1,812 posts)
63. My Forester
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 06:27 PM
Nov 2018

Gets between 26 and 30.
My Prius on trips got 50.
A great small car is the Toyota Corolla.

Ohiogal

(31,925 posts)
103. I love my Corolla
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:46 PM
Nov 2018

It's an '06. Not one major problem with it.

If you fold the rear seats down, you can get an 8 ft. board inside! Hubby and I have come home from Lowe's many times that way.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
115. I have had two Corollas, my brother is on his second, though
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:48 PM
Nov 2018

he got the first from our Mom (it is a 1993) which was in an accident a couple of years ago, but the engine still runs.

I love my Corolla!

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
4. There are a lot of us who prefer to buy from US companies.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:56 PM
Nov 2018

It is getting more difficult, though the smaller utility vehicles do come in some sizes that are pretty much like passenger cars.

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
39. Tesla is a US company...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:43 PM
Nov 2018

And the T3 is priced very competitively. Just sayin'.

NB: I drive a 2008 Ford Escape hybrid, and will continue to drive it until the wheels fall off.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
52. Base price of $35k may be considered competitive,
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:29 AM
Nov 2018

but is far too pricey for me. Especially when it has a 220 mile range. How long do they take to charge?

Hopefully, someday a good electric car will cost what a Honda Fit does, just to name one car, and will recharge in the same amount of time it takes to put gas in a gasoline powered car.

RockRaven

(14,912 posts)
5. If you want an American made car, as opposed to an American made car from a nominally US company
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:57 PM
Nov 2018

you just have to do your research. Lots of "Japanese" and "German" cars are made in the US. A family member of mine has a Toyota which was made in Texas.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. You have to evaluate "Domestic Content".
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:17 PM
Nov 2018

Which covers labor and parts. Honda had the highest domestic content of any carmaker several years in a row. I have not looked at recent numbers.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
26. Toyota has 4 assembly plants in this country
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:31 PM
Nov 2018

Georgetown, KY
Princeton, IN
San Antonio, TX
Blue Springs, MS

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
70. Agree with the nonunion part.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:24 PM
Nov 2018

But they are still American made with good wages and decent benefits. Not union wages and benefits, but still American workers. My mother lives in Central Kentucky. I see more Camry’s on the road there than anywhere else I go.

It going to take lots of Blue votes for a long time to chance Federal Labor law in a more Liberal direction. That said, now is the time to start talking it up.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. The Focus is Russian made
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:10 PM
Nov 2018
Ford had already been producing the Mondeo and Focus car lines in Vsevolozhsk, near Saint Petersburg, then the first model produced by the venture in Yelabuga was the Ford Transit. Later, at the same location, started the production of the Kuga, and the Explorer. For the Naberezhny Chelny plant, the Ecosport began in 2014, and the Fiesta began in 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Sollers

lithiumbomb

(250 posts)
15. As well as Michigan...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:14 PM
Nov 2018

The 3rd generation Focus was made in over a half dozen countries. US market Focuses were made in Wayne Michigan, though the Focus RS was made in Germany. The 4th generation Focus is not sold in the US. *Edit to add: This plant is now producing the 2019 Ford Ranger.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
23. I think the point should be that all auto manufacturers produce and distribute worldwide
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:24 PM
Nov 2018

Just like the person above stating how Toyota is made in TX. Honda is headquartered in CA. One of the biggest VW plants (employs 15,000 workers) is in Mexico. The list goes on. The auto industry is a global market.

slumcamper

(1,604 posts)
13. First, you don't worry; be happy.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:12 PM
Nov 2018

Next, you do what consumers do: seek alternatives, substitutes, or go without.

I was a teacher and am still an educator. Although my vehicular preferences and motivations were likely different than yours, my alternative was a 2018 Toyota Prius Eco. It functions quite similar to US-brand vehicles in transporting me in adequate comfort. It has all the conveniences I need. Its 60-65 mpg performance saves me time and $$, and weans me a bit more from Big Oil. It's low emissions are a contribution I can make to sustaining the planet, our collective health, and our future. It offers a teachable moment for my children and grandchildren, or others, and most respect me for it, although drivers of oversized trucks who are compensating tend to get pissed off at the sight of it.

I hope it lasts as well as my 1998 Sienna which had 383,000 miles on it and had been in all 48 states when I drove it in and traded it. They gave me $1500 for that thing, noting that a local taxi company would take it immediately.

Good luck with everything. Your options are open and vast.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
17. When I got this Focus I had a massive commute
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:16 PM
Nov 2018

so I looked at hybrids and electric cars but even with the tax break and the mileage I still found getting the Focus with its mileage was a better deal for me. I probably don't drive enough for a hybrid to even come close to breaking even for me now. I went from over 100 miles round trip a day to about 15 with only one day of the 100 plus.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. Toyota, Honda make cars in the US with US workers.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 09:13 PM
Nov 2018

I think Mitshubishi also build in the US and one Kirean brand does also.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
49. Subaru assembles the Impreza in Indiana.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:08 AM
Nov 2018

It’s the highest rated in its class by Consumer Reports.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
21. My 07 Honda Civic was American made.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:15 PM
Nov 2018

I ran the VIN number, and indeed it was. From memory, I think it was made in Kentucky. Alas, it was totaled in a crash (I am fine). I have not yet run the VIN on its replacement (an 08 Civic), but this post has made me curious to find out.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
28. There are a lot of us. GM is getting rid of some that aren't moving well, and
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 10:35 PM
Nov 2018

Ford will still be selling passenger cars in Europe, and I suspect they will be reconsidering that decision in th US, and give it to the Toyota’s Honda’s etc

llmart

(15,534 posts)
32. Count me in as one more Honda owner.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:19 PM
Nov 2018

I have a Civic that gets approximately 35 mpg. When I went car shopping I first drove a Ford Focus and then the Civic. The Focus felt like a tin box. The Honda rides much better. The US made content of the Civic was much higher than the Focus.

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
33. I've always had either a Ford or Chrysler.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:20 PM
Nov 2018

Currently I have a Ford Escape which I really like. There’s a smaller SUV than the Escape called the Eco Sport which seems to be almost the size of a sedan.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. You're supposed to have bought them over the past 10 years
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:20 PM
Nov 2018

But people didn't.

GM made cars, and Americans didn't buy them.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
35. Forgot to ask...
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:21 PM
Nov 2018

What does your salary being dependent on taxes have to do with what kind of car you buy. Your salary is paid from property taxes, unless I'm missing something here.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
46. Property taxes are only a portion of the funding school districts in Ohio receive.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 01:32 AM
Nov 2018

They also receive State and Federal funding which is based on income taxes. The portion of property vs.State and Federal dollars varies from district to district. Wealthier districts receive less in State funding per pupil and, I believe, Federal dollars are often tied to grants or specific programs (such as Title) and/or students with specific needs.

There is also a solidarity aspect of a teacher as a union member supporting other union members. Sadly, I fear we have lost most aspects of solidarity in today's society. I have never owned a vehicle that wasn't UAW. I've knocked doors along side UAW, Steel Workers, IAM, etc but I did see a shift in the political allegiances of many of our Union brothers and sisters over the past couple of years. The decimation of Unions is part of the equation when we look at wealth disparity and its incessant increase over the past few decades.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,381 posts)
107. Volvo is now a Chinese company...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 04:55 PM
Nov 2018

Don't be surprised if they move much of the expected output from this new venture, back to China.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
108. My suggestion of a Volvo was in response to the stipulation in the OP
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:12 PM
Nov 2018

of "US made passenger car". The Volvo S30 Sedan fits that description - made in America by Americans (for the most part) for shipment in the US and around the world.

4,000 highly-trained and well-paying jobs were added to the South Carolina economy by the opening of this plant.

This new plant is just the beginning for Volvo in North America. The Ridgeville facility is already under expansion plans and will be adding a second line of styles to be manufactured in the U.S.

Disclosure: My son is a Volvo executive, now relocated to South Carolina. He and Volvo are most excited about Volvo's U.S. footprint and the promise of a bright future for Volvo in this country.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,381 posts)
113. You should ask your son...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:38 PM
Nov 2018

How close they are to 4000 jobs, we had neighbors move in, he's also a Volvo exec, he pissed with what's going on, as everything stagnant at the moment. They spent millions on a new interchange for Volvo, they did all sorts of things, I hear they may just shut the place down and move production to China. Same thing with BMW & Benz.

marybourg

(12,598 posts)
43. In my mid 70's,
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 01:04 AM
Nov 2018

I’m old enough to have owned American cars in the era when American cars were trash. The most recent one was a ‘90 Suburban, which we bought only because we need it to tow our 30’ trailer, and which was in the shop, bucking our backs out until we got it there, every month, because of a $1.00 part, and which we traded in the day the warrantee expired. Oh, yeah , the wiring harness burned up too, nearly setting us on fire.

I regret that I can’t support union workers, and I know it was mostly not the workers fault, but I will never buy another American -branded car. Fortunately my last three vehicles, all wonderful trouble free Toyotas were made in the U.S., though alas, not by union labor.

BlueSpot

(855 posts)
45. I drive a Prius
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 01:07 AM
Nov 2018

I don't think they are made in the US or at least not in 2007 when I bought it (and it is still going strong). No domestic automaker could even come close to the mileage and I did look at the time of purchase. With a 50 mile commute, it made a difference. If the U.S. automakers don't want to make sedans, I will buy another import.

Why support the automakers at the expense of the longshoremen anyway? That's never been clear to me.

Liberty Belle

(9,533 posts)
51. Toyota has factories in the U.S. now and they're the most reliable cars on the road.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 02:24 AM
Nov 2018

They are also safe - mine saved my life twice with features that most other vehicles don't have.

You have to ask where the car is made, since some are manufactured in Japan but you CAN buy an American-made car now with Japanese superior technology.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
56. My wife and I only buy domestically made cars, too
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 05:10 AM
Nov 2018

Fortunately for us, that means German cars, since we live in Germany.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
59. Doesn't affect electrics... Get a Bolt, or a Buick or Sonic
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:36 AM
Nov 2018

Watch this space, electric crossovers, SUV, Vans and Trucks coming soon.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
60. Chrysler is owned by Fiat and a large percentage of
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:36 AM
Nov 2018

American made cars (American Brand) use foreign made parts

Firestorm49

(4,030 posts)
61. Ditto. I'm on my 2nd Focus as well. We bought it for the 35 mpg. 41mpg not unusual.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 12:08 PM
Nov 2018

You won’t get mileage like that from an SUV.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
64. I'm just gonna keep fixing my Cruze like they do with cars in Cuba
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 07:13 PM
Nov 2018

Hell, I see photos of cars from the 50s still being driven around in Cuba.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
67. US made or UAW made?
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:30 PM
Nov 2018

Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Kia etc all assemble cars in the US and pay close to what UAW workers make. They have about the same percentage of American parts.

My husband is a GM / UAW retiree and we always try to purchase union made products. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. However, if we have to, we move on to supporting our local workforce next. We are driving a Toyota Avalon now. Assembled in Georgetown Kentucky, employer to a lot of our neighbors and friends.

Camry had the highest percentage of parts made by American workers in 2016 and 2017. Avalon took it in 2018.

"American" Car makers have been abandoning America for some time now in favor of greener pastures in Asia. At the same time "Asian" car companies are embracing Americans.

Vehicles are insanely expensive to buy new. At the end of the day you have the make the best choice you can for your family. No one should fault you for that.

Mendocino

(7,482 posts)
71. Is Chrysler American?
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:39 PM
Nov 2018

It's an American subsidiary of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles FCA. Fiat is an Italian/American manufacturer registered in the Netherlands with headquarters in London for tax purposes. Its a Chrysler, wrapped in a Fiat, lost in an enigma.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
73. Why do people even like to drive them?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:54 AM
Nov 2018

I have a compact SUV and I like the driving height, and the ease of getting in and out (like sitting on a couch in the living room instead of on a cushion on the floor.) Whenever I have to trade with my husband, I'm reminded of how much more comfortable the SUV is.

It holds 5 people, and there's plenty of cargo space. It handles as well as my husband's car and the all-wheel drive comes in handy in the rain and snow.

So remind me -- why do people get small sedans?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
87. What does your husband drive?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 10:00 AM
Nov 2018

You say that every time you trade with him you're reminded of how much more comfortable the SUV is. What does he drive?

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
89. He drives an old Audi, which he loves. And it also has all-wheel drive,
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:21 AM
Nov 2018

and is considered a good car for driving. But I don't see an improvement in the driving that makes up for having to bend down to sit so low.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
76. There's always public transportation.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 02:56 AM
Nov 2018

I've been using it for twelve years, since I gave up my Volvo when it became more of a liability than an asset.

City bus. Taxi when necessary. Lots of walking.

Very modern. I shake my head at the lines of cars on the road with one human inside. What a waste.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
83. public transport where I live is very spotty
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:28 AM
Nov 2018

and Uber/Lift close to non existent. I can do taxi I think.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
81. One of the best options is Subaru Impreza built in Indiana. Unless you want a larger car for more $.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:16 AM
Nov 2018

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
91. That will be my next car
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:37 AM
Nov 2018

I currently drive a Legacy, which is a little wide for me. I had a Forester before that. Subaru makes good cars.

Boomer

(4,167 posts)
84. There is no such thing as an "American-made" car anymore
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 08:46 AM
Nov 2018

It's an outdated concept, devoid of meaning.

Parts are made all over the world, assembly of the final car happens all over the world. Car companies are global, as are their shareholders, so the profits go in all directions.


Nitram

(22,768 posts)
86. I will never buy another "American" car. I don't want a pickup truck or a ginormous SUV.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 09:37 AM
Nov 2018

I don't want a car that won't last 200,000+ miles. I don't want a car that looks great for a few years and then starts to fall to pieces. The whole American car industry was based on the idea that people would trade in their car and buy a new one every there or four years.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
90. In 2016 CarFax made a ranking of American made cars
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:35 AM
Nov 2018
Most American-Made Cars of 2016
Honorable Mentions: American-Made Imports. (78.5 percent domestic content - Honda Odyssey, Honda Pilot, Jeep Cherokee, Toyota Camry and Toyota Sienna)
Fifth Place: Honda Accord. (81 percent domestic content)
Fourth Place: General Motors Dominates.(82.5 percent domestic content - Buick LaCrosse, Cadillac Escalade and multiple models from Chevrolet, including the Equinox, Impala, Malibu, Tahoe and Suburban. The GMC Yukon and Yukon XL)
Third Place: Chevrolet Corvette. (83 percent domestic content)
Second Place: Ford F-150. (85 percent domestic content)
First Place: Buick Enclave, Chevrolet Traverse, GMC Acadia. (90 percent domestic content)

https://www.carfax.com/blog/2016-american-made-cars


List of automobiles manufactured in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobiles_manufactured_in_the_United_States
This list also includes models and which plants manufacture them.


Here are the top 10 most American-made vehicles: Jeep, Ford, Honda top Cars.com list
Nathan Bomey, USA TODAY Published 10:08 a.m. ET June 22, 2018
Here is the 2018 list (and where each vehicle is assembled):

1. Jeep Cherokee (Belvidere, Ill.)

2. Honda Odyssey (Lincoln, Ala.)

3. Honda Ridgeline (Lincoln, Ala.)

4. Ford Taurus (Chicago)

5. Chevrolet Volt (Detroit)

6. Honda Pilot (Lincoln, Ala.)

7. Acura MDX (East Liberty, Ohio)

8. Ford Explorer (Chicago)

9. Ford F-150 (Claycomo, Mo., and Dearborn, Mich.)

10. Chevrolet Corvette (Bowling Green, Ky.)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2018/06/22/american-cars/724724002/


Obviously brand name is not the deciding factor for how much of your car is made in the USA. One major consideration is in which state it is made if you are interested in supporting union labor.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
99. Drive a Tesla? Start your own car company? If they could make money with them ...
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:34 PM
Nov 2018

they'd keep making them.

 
102. Go electric
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 03:44 PM
Nov 2018

The Chevy Bolt has good range 200+ miles, and has gotten good reviews as probably the best EV entry level.

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
110. The worst car my wife ever had was from GM
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nov 2018

It was a Chevrolet Cavalier station wagon. The transmission was constantly breaking down, and it rusted through surprisingly quickly. I vowed that we would never get another GM car. I suspect that we aren't the only people this has happened to?

If GM had made decent, dependable cars, they could have stayed in that business.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
116. Our last American car was a new Pontiac something or other in the 1970's.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:50 PM
Nov 2018

We drove it off the lot, stopped to get coffee about a half mile away and it wouldn't start when we wanted to leave. The thing should have been lemon colored. We didn't keep it very long.

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