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pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:39 PM Nov 2018

How Mueller pardon-proofed his agreement with Manafort.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/09/15/a-comparison-of-rick-gates-and-paul-manaforts-plea-deals/




PARDON-PROOFING THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS
The statute of limitations paragraph, which allows the government to prosecute the underlying crimes and any other crimes not prosecuted if “any plea or conviction [is…] set aside or dismissed for any reason,” even after the statute of limitations toll includes this language in the Manafort plea that is not present in the Gates plea:

The Office and any other party will be free to use against your client, directly and indirectly, in any criminal or civil proceeding, all statements made by your client, including the Statement of the Offense, and any of the information or materials provided by your client, including such statements, information, and materials provided pursuant to this Agreement or during the course of debriefings conducted in anticipation of, or after entry of, this Agreement, whether or not the debriefings were previously a part of proffer-protected debriefings, and your client’s statements made during proceedings before the Court pursuant to Rule 11 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

It also repeats that this language applies to the conduct described in the Statement of the Offense “or any other crimes that the Government has agreed not to prosecute.”

Some lawyers believe this language generally and the addition specifically provides further insurance against pardon. If Trump pardons Manafort for the crimes he has just pled guilty to, the government will then be able to go after him for the other crimes he just told the grand jury about, crimes which are probably worse and for which the President is a co-conspirator.

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How Mueller pardon-proofed his agreement with Manafort. (Original Post) pnwmom Nov 2018 OP
He agreed with himself? Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #1
LOL, yes, I fixed it. pnwmom Nov 2018 #3
💖💖💖 Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #5
You mean his agreement with Manafort I assume. Kingofalldems Nov 2018 #2
Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt! pnwmom Nov 2018 #4
I feel a checkmate moment is coming C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #6
I bet he was prepared for this. It seem to me that his whole life, pnwmom Nov 2018 #7

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
7. I bet he was prepared for this. It seem to me that his whole life,
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 12:48 AM
Nov 2018

including his service in Vietnam; and leading the FBI, taking down mobster families, going after terrorist networks, prosecuting money-launderers, and cyber criminals, has led up to this point.

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