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Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:43 AM Nov 2018

Trump's concentration camp!

Texas detention camp for teen migrants keeps growing
By GARANCE BURKE AND MARTHA MENDOZA

TORNILLO, Texas (AP) — The Trump administration announced in June it would open a temporary shelter for up to 360 migrant children in this isolated corner of the Texas desert. Less than six months later, the facility has expanded into a detention camp holding thousands of teenagers — and it shows every sign of becoming more permanent.

By Tuesday, 2,324 largely Central American boys and girls between the ages of 13 and 17 were sleeping inside the highly guarded facility in rows of bunk beds in canvas tents, some of which once housed first responders to Hurricane Harvey. More than 1,300 teens have arrived since the end of October.

Rising from the cotton fields and dusty roads not far from the fence marking the border between the U.S. and Mexico, the camp has rows of beige tents and golf carts that ferry staffers carrying walkie-talkies. Teens with identical haircuts and government-issued shirts and pants can be seen walking single file from tent to tent, flanked by staff at the front and back.
https://www.apnews.com/16f53fb6dd644662a1e52bbad72d99cc


More people are detained in this tent city than in all but one US federal prison, and construction continues.
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Trump's concentration camp! (Original Post) Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 OP
This sentence stands out for me: MineralMan Nov 2018 #1
Your reply is the reason for an edit, which got this OP viewed by MANY readers Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #17
Glad I could help. MineralMan Nov 2018 #18
With 42 recommendations, after being posted slightly over 2 hrs ago, you helped a lot! Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #20
43 now. MineralMan Nov 2018 #21
LOL thanks, there are 50 now Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #23
Or basic training. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2018 #22
Arbeit macht frei C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #2
Republicans are despicable for not impeaching tRump Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #8
They are the party of Trump now. Initech Nov 2018 #14
Exactly what I was thinking. geardaddy Nov 2018 #10
That'd why I seriously think that 2naSalit Nov 2018 #3
if there is a bdamomma Nov 2018 #4
or lower power... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #31
Land of the free and home of the Brave! Indeed. Le Gaucher Nov 2018 #5
When this many people are being held under these conditions, deaths are inevitable. Girard442 Nov 2018 #6
All MS13 no doubt world wide wally Nov 2018 #7
Kiddie Koncentration Kamps dbackjon Nov 2018 #9
TrumpCamps Scalded Nun Nov 2018 #11
Someone is making a lot of money from these camps. watoos Nov 2018 #12
Besides the red meat, that is what this is all about Scalded Nun Nov 2018 #19
The process of dehumanization is continuing ZeroSomeBrains Nov 2018 #13
An infinite supply Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #15
With so few posts, Fuzpope, let me welcome you to D.U. and add... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #34
Cheers Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #38
Even at D.U. Climate Change is posted so frequently, it gets very little attention... Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #39
I'd be more than happy to. Fuzzpope Nov 2018 #41
I had a pretty intense discussion after my curling game on Monday Saviolo Nov 2018 #16
The title of this OP is preposterous on multiple levels oberliner Nov 2018 #24
That remark is consider "FLAMING" at DU! Young people will die at this concentration camp too. Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #25
How would you describe these camps? Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #26
Ask a relative of a Concetration Camp survivor/victim during the Holocaust. AncientGeezer Nov 2018 #27
Here is my fear and concern Docreed2003 Nov 2018 #29
Incarcerating is NOT a concentration camp. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #35
and JG kicking this back on top of G.D. is not a trap to reveal Freepers Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #37
you should have read the entire news article; here's another paragraph: Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #30
Agreed, nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #40
Does anyone think that I kicked this old OP back to G.D. as a freeper trap? Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #42
Maybe this is a dumb question but how is this freeper trap? nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #43
This is only one of them. And early and small. Hortensis Nov 2018 #28
did anyone catch bdamomma Nov 2018 #32
Thee good news is that I can't afford a European vacation Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #33
While I get what you are going for...I personally would not of used concentration camp. nt UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #36

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
1. This sentence stands out for me:
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:45 AM
Nov 2018
"Teens with identical haircuts and government-issued shirts and pants can be seen walking single file from tent to tent, flanked by staff at the front and back."

Sounds like a concentration camp to me. Trump's concentration camp.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
17. Your reply is the reason for an edit, which got this OP viewed by MANY readers
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:27 PM
Nov 2018

Thanks, as a result of your reply, I quickly changed the headline of the Opening Post and readers, replies and especially recommendations grew rapidly.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
8. Republicans are despicable for not impeaching tRump
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:18 PM
Nov 2018

He is not only a disgrace to their party but also a disgrace to the human race

Initech

(99,915 posts)
14. They are the party of Trump now.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:54 PM
Nov 2018

He's brought their racism and sexism out in the open for the whole world to see. They're probably loving this shit.

2naSalit

(86,069 posts)
3. That'd why I seriously think that
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 11:54 AM
Nov 2018

these fuckers are involved with human trafficking and probably have been for a long time.

Girard442

(6,059 posts)
6. When this many people are being held under these conditions, deaths are inevitable.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:05 PM
Nov 2018

It's a near certainty that some have already died from disease, abuse, or violence. When you build concentration camps, you end up with the whole concentration camp package.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
13. The process of dehumanization is continuing
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 12:50 PM
Nov 2018

It's not going to improve until we stop expecting that these republicans will hold this administration accountable and start hounding every republican everywhere as complicit. They may say that it makes them uncomfortable but they don't care.

Make them have to look at the world of hate they are allowing to continue unabated. Make sure every fake note of concern is shown as the useless jibber jabber that it is. This is America. And these children's plight must be made a high priority in the new House. This cannot continue.

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
15. An infinite supply
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:14 PM
Nov 2018

Of human cash crop.

Goddamn these people to hell, we are going to carry this stain for generations. Right now, sixty years in the future, a classroom is asking their teacher why the American people allowed Trump to perpetrate these atrocities and inflict grievous harm upon the entire planet.

What's the teacher's answer going to be? Who will the teacher condemn more, Trump, or us for not stopping him sooner?

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
34. With so few posts, Fuzpope, let me welcome you to D.U. and add...
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 08:01 PM
Nov 2018

With unpredictable Climate Change, rapidly impacting species on Earth, especially humans, neither the hypothetical teacher, nor her students will have to face questions about Human inhumanity to other people.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
39. Even at D.U. Climate Change is posted so frequently, it gets very little attention...
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 08:38 PM
Nov 2018

Would you like working with other's at DU to get recent Climate Change news publicized here? We can use DU mail to notify supporters and friends to alert them that a new OP needs recommendations and replies.

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
41. I'd be more than happy to.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 09:50 PM
Nov 2018

Climate change is something I've ground my head against from the early days of "global warming", I am painfully aware of the difficulty in promoting awareness, recognition, and engagement even among liberals who are predisposed towards preserving our environment.

As a father of two children who loses endless sleep in the dull panic of fearing the world my kids are forced to exist within, anything that I can do to help make a difference I'm all in on.

Saviolo

(3,270 posts)
16. I had a pretty intense discussion after my curling game on Monday
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 01:18 PM
Nov 2018

If you've never been curling, it's a very honour-system based sport, and extremely social. After you play a game, there is what is called the "Broomstack." This is where both teams gather to chat and have a drink (winning team buys).

One of the guys on the other team scoffed a little when I called Trump fascist, so I pointed out that he's doing a bunch of fascist things, like calling for the imprisoning of political opponents, attacks on the press, and actual concentration camps. He actually did a "how dare you" at me for calling the child internment facilities (you know, those camps they describe in the OP?) as "concentration camps" because it's so disrespectful to people who've survived the German concentration camps.

I responded "The Nazis weren't the first nor were they the most recent to use concentration camps. Japanese internment was concentration camps, the Trail of Tears led to concentration camps." He just didn't buy it. I have to thank Robert Evans and his podcast Behind the Bastards for a really interesting primer on the history of concentration camps, I felt well armed in that discussion:

https://www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/concentration-camps-are-back-so-lets-talk-about-their-history.htm

It’s possible the general idea of ‘building camps to hold people who’ve done nothing wrong’ goes back many thousands of years. In Episode 9, Robert is joined by Jacquis Neal (Culture Kings Podcast) and they dive into the history of concentration camps.
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
24. The title of this OP is preposterous on multiple levels
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:31 PM
Nov 2018

Not to mention insulting to the memory of the millions who died in actual concentration camps.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
25. That remark is consider "FLAMING" at DU! Young people will die at this concentration camp too.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 05:58 PM
Nov 2018

Odd, that you find it okay to call the title "preposterous," while thousands of other readers took no offense to the thread!

Docreed2003

(16,817 posts)
26. How would you describe these camps?
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:39 PM
Nov 2018

If these camps don't meet the definition of "concentration camps", how would you describe them?

 

AncientGeezer

(2,146 posts)
27. Ask a relative of a Concetration Camp survivor/victim during the Holocaust.
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 06:56 PM
Nov 2018

Nobody living in these places faces ANY threat of going to a gas chamber.

Docreed2003

(16,817 posts)
29. Here is my fear and concern
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:22 PM
Nov 2018

We are incarcerating thousands of children and teenagers and dehumanizing them. We are watching this as a society and largely shrugging it off as if this is no big deal, and I'm not speaking about the folks here and other places that are in tune to what's happening...what I mean is ask the average person if they even know about these camps and I'd wager they don't, or at best they don't know the extent of them.

No they aren't being killed or gassed, but what I fear is that we will dehumanize then to the point that worse things will happen and large parts of our country will not bat an eye.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
30. you should have read the entire news article; here's another paragraph:
Wed Nov 28, 2018, 07:25 PM
Nov 2018

None of the 2,100 staff are going through rigorous FBI fingerprint background checks, according to a government watchdog memo published Tuesday. “Instead, Tornillo is using checks conducted by a private contractor that has access to less comprehensive data, thereby heightening the risk that an individual with a criminal history could have direct access to children,” the memo says.
https://www.apnews.com/16f53fb6dd644662a1e52bbad72d99cc

Also, as the OP states the facility was built for FAR less detainees, making disease, rape and murder real dangers.

bdamomma

(63,658 posts)
32. did anyone catch
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 11:30 AM
Nov 2018

Rachel reporting on this last night. 2,324 kids are being held. This is disgusting.

This is being done in our name.

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